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VANITY You Are Transported To The Year 742 AD Europe And Allowed To Bring 3 Items From The Future
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Posted on 10/14/2012 8:02:34 AM PDT by trailhkr1

What would they be? A gun? Then you are only allowed to bring 2 bullets..see how that works?? Some basic ground rules..has to be a realistic items you can get you hands on today..no tanks etc. You are going with just the clothes on your back + the 3 items to survive an mingle with the folks of the day. Never coming back.

Saw this question on another site and wanted to see what you guys would come up with..I will post that link tomorrow after everyone has a chance to come up with their ideas..some people came up with good ideas (detailed history text of the time in Europe, antibiotics) and other people's ideas..not so much.


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To: a fool in paradise; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks a fool in paradise. I'd probably refuse to go (since it's a one-way trip), but if I *had* to go, I'd take three DIY type books.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


151 posted on 10/14/2012 11:39:13 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: driftdiver
A book of how to build all those things, some gold, antibiotics to let you live long enough to make them.

I hear you on the book and the medicine. Give me a reliable sail boat; I know where the gold is.

152 posted on 10/14/2012 12:05:05 PM PDT by Blogatron (VOTE ANGRY!!!)
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To: trailhkr1

antibiotics
matches maybe
hunting knife


153 posted on 10/14/2012 12:05:18 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: trailhkr1; All

1] My K Bar

2] Book of herbal medicine

3] Cold Steel War Hammer

4] Everything else I can pick up once there


154 posted on 10/14/2012 12:18:50 PM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Viagra

You're going to be a busy little bee aren't you? LOL Planning to be your own ancestor?

Think I'll bring:

1) Large bag of gold coins.

2) Foxfire book

3) Penicillin-mega vial, or at least the formula to create it.

155 posted on 10/14/2012 12:32:58 PM PDT by madison10
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To: trailhkr1

You are going with just the clothes on your back + the 3 items...

Wearing sturdy boots; good, wide-brimmed, rainproof hat; backpack; thermal underwear & socks; an all-weather poncho; combat pants; hunting or fishing vest full of pockets; long sleeved, lined flannel shirt with hood; and a pea-coat

Smooth-bore flintlock, about .60-.75 cal that would be useful with both balls and shot, loaded

A copy of Henley’s Formulas

A five pound can of FFFG black powder


156 posted on 10/14/2012 12:37:29 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: trailhkr1

Chemistry textbook. I think it would need to be in Latin. A mechanical watch. A gun/ammo.


157 posted on 10/14/2012 12:38:29 PM PDT by grimalkin (“Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.” Friedm)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

“1. A nuclear warhead to be used in Mekkah.
2. A second nuclear warhead to be used in Medina.
3. A third nuclear warhead to keep any followers of Mohammed in line.”

Yahoo! Imagine there’s no islam and muslims terrorists, it’s easy if you try.


158 posted on 10/14/2012 12:43:57 PM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: trailhkr1

1. A friend/bodyguard. I’m not going there alone.
2. A letter of introduction to somebody in charge, so I’m not killed on sight.
3. A pile of local currency.


159 posted on 10/14/2012 12:47:52 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: trailhkr1; SunkenCiv

I’m not going anywhere without my microwave oven!


160 posted on 10/14/2012 1:16:56 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic (Joe Biden is reported to be seeking asylum in a foreign country so he does not have to debate Ryan.)
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To: trailhkr1

1. My wife
2. My dog pack
3. James Bond


161 posted on 10/14/2012 1:22:53 PM PDT by Eaker (Stripping Americans of their freedom and dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea.)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Tetracycline will work just fine.


162 posted on 10/14/2012 1:56:19 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: GenXteacher

LOL, best so far.


163 posted on 10/14/2012 2:37:00 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: Melas

Perhaps get the pages enclosed in that plastic stuff...what do you call it... All I can think about in this mental exercise is me compiling all the notes I need then promptly, 30 minutes into the trip, dropping the whole thing of paper into a river.


164 posted on 10/14/2012 5:00:46 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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1. A Towel
2. A bread knife to make sandwiches
3. The Hitchhiker’s Guide


165 posted on 10/14/2012 5:01:50 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: trailhkr1

Allowed To Bring 3 Items From The Future

Washer/dryer combo unit
microwave

I’m really having trouble deciding on an iron or a vacuum cleaner.


166 posted on 10/14/2012 5:24:44 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Blogatron

book of Mohammed jokes and cartoons


167 posted on 10/14/2012 5:30:10 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: trailhkr1

Deodorant and razor to present to any female I might become attracted to and a half gallon of Tanqueray in case the deodorant and razor don’t work........


168 posted on 10/14/2012 5:35:35 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Jab him with a harpoon.....)
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To: trailhkr1

My credit card.

A TV.

A cell phone.

Um. Oh, wait ...


169 posted on 10/14/2012 5:36:26 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: trailhkr1

Modern medicine book
Modern chemistry book
Modern engineering book


170 posted on 10/14/2012 5:46:19 PM PDT by bannie ("The gov't that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.")
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To: babble-on
>>>they had bibles in 742 AD!

Oh... You read Latin or Greek? Oh... You got a plan to get into the monestaries to read the bible... Or do you plan on taking gold as an item to buy a Latin/Greek text for yourself? One thing for certain... You aren't gonna pop down to the life way store and buy a KJV/NIV/ESV.

171 posted on 10/14/2012 5:46:34 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: trailhkr1

3 carrrier groups.


172 posted on 10/14/2012 6:42:23 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: bigheadfred
So much for taking a bar of bath soap.

Why? They had soap and fairly good soap at that.

173 posted on 10/14/2012 6:50:19 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I’m not going anywhere without my microwave oven!

Or at least a good wood burning stove for warmth and cooking!

174 posted on 10/14/2012 7:55:13 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: trailhkr1

Hosts, wine, chalice — praying that I would find a priest and we could have a Catholic Mass.


175 posted on 10/14/2012 7:57:37 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Gaffer; All

DING, DING, DING...

WE’VE GOT A WINNER!!!


176 posted on 10/14/2012 8:06:05 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: trailhkr1
1. a hand operated printing press
2. the method to make rag paper
3. a typewriter or the design for a ball point pen

The main downfall of civilization was the lack of the ability to make cheap paper. Why learn to read when you might see two books in your life time?

When Rome held Egypt there was a thriving paper industry and people learned to read if only to read the latest cheap thriller. (Yep they had those too!)

Make paper cheap and printing easy and you avoid the dark ages altogether.

While I was there I would invent the wheelbarrow, the horse collar and general ledger accounting.

177 posted on 10/14/2012 8:43:26 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: SunkenCiv
DIY books assume too much tech/tools that wouldn't exist yet.

my picks

Maybe I should have picked one of these:

Canned Victory Garden

178 posted on 10/14/2012 8:45:52 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: trailhkr1
1. A portable DVD player.
2. A solar battery.
3. The first season DVD of Lancelot Link Secret Chimp.

Let the people of the 8th century think that's what the future becomes. Somebody might write a book about it.

-PJ

179 posted on 10/14/2012 8:52:15 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( It doesn't I naturally when you're not natural born.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
When Rome held Egypt there was a thriving paper industry and people learned to read if only to read the latest cheap thriller. (Yep they had those too!)

Seriously? You mean pulp was once printed on papyrus?

180 posted on 10/14/2012 8:52:47 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: trailhkr1

1 case of toilet paper. Another case of toilet paper. Another case of toilet paper.


181 posted on 10/14/2012 9:05:23 PM PDT by redhead (Guns don't kill people...Planned Parenthood kills people.)
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To: trailhkr1

1.Bible
2.wind up flashlight
3.water filter straw


182 posted on 10/14/2012 9:14:21 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: babble-on

“they had bibles in 742 AD!”

Not for the common people. The Gutenberg printing press made it’s debut in 1436.


183 posted on 10/14/2012 9:17:34 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: thecodont
Yes.

Not much of it survived but there was a lot of cheap fiction written and published back then. The idea that they sat around reading philosophy, history and what we would consider literature is based on the fact that those were the books that were copied onto parchment. “The Adventures of Zorbator the Great” was not worthy of being copied.

We do have a few of the most popular that survived like "Daphnis and Chloe" but mostly what we have are scraps.

184 posted on 10/14/2012 9:35:09 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: RJS1950; SunkenCiv; no-to-illegals; All

The best most accurate flintlock rifle made historically. Lead balls and gunpowder can be made, and with the flint and steel you can make fire.

The Army field manual on first aid & general medicine (I presume there is some such animal). Note, you can make your own penicillin by taking an orange or other citrus fruit and letting it spoil. You will get a fine green mold. That is raw penicillin. You can scrape it off an use it. Most bad germs grow in an alkaline environment. The citrus is acid. I have used this on minor cuts, pimples and sores. Works like a charm.

A comprehensive survivalist manual oriented to construction and engineering. My boys used to have things like the Anarchists Cook Book lying around. One son is now in special forces.


185 posted on 10/14/2012 9:36:44 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Nah, all you need to do is stay away from rats and lice, and bathe.


186 posted on 10/14/2012 9:39:02 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Not much of it survived but there was a lot of cheap fiction written and published back then.

If someone had told me that there were gladiator "trading cards" (without the bubblegum) I'd have said they were crazy, then I read such things actually existed. Human nature doesn't change.

187 posted on 10/14/2012 9:40:49 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

If you planned to bring eyeglasses, you might be able to use that like a magnifying glass.


188 posted on 10/14/2012 9:41:45 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: svcw; All

Rose hips. Those little red/orange balls that are ripening up just now on a lot of rose bushes. Pick them, cut them up, dry or refrigerate, use for tea or soup. Drop into boiling water. Heating slowly will tend to destroy the vitamin C.

I debated saying a very large bottle of multivitamins and minerals.


189 posted on 10/14/2012 9:46:42 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: DManA; SunkenCiv; All

There is something called bog iron. We had it in New Jersey, it was smelted into iron and used for weapon and tool making. It is caused by the tannin from oaks and pines in the water interacting with iron deposits in the soil. Cakes up into hard chunks along water ways. I have seen old smelting chimneys constructed of stone in NJ about 15 or 20 feet tall.


190 posted on 10/14/2012 9:52:13 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: bigheadfred; All

Soap is not that hard. Basic ingredients, fat and lye from wood ash. Went to the fort at Boonesboro. There was a wooden box about 3 feet cubed. People in the fort brought their wood ash there and water was filtered through it and collected below for soap making. Beeswax makes the best candles, but tallow and lard will get the job done.


191 posted on 10/14/2012 9:58:12 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: RegulatorCountry; SunkenCiv; All

Someone else had the right idea with a Latin/English book. Latin was used by priests and a few literate people throughout Europe. With that you could find refuge in a monastery or nunnery until you learned the local language. I think in England they had Old Norse. I have a 15th century fascimile of a Spanish/English reader. In Spain they have had an academy for centuries to keep the language “pure”. Since I am fairly fluent in Spanish, it was actually easier to read and understand the Spanish than the English.


192 posted on 10/14/2012 10:09:41 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: thecodont
Shall I blow your mind and tell you that they did have chewing gum back then?

No bubblegum though.

193 posted on 10/14/2012 10:11:04 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: trailhkr1
20 guys of the day rushing you in the woods out of nowhere and you would be dead meat...

I hate it when that happens.

194 posted on 10/14/2012 10:15:26 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: married21; All

Better have that letter written in Latin and Greek in ink on parchment.


195 posted on 10/14/2012 10:27:25 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

A two quart steel coking pot (to boil water), a magnesium flatrod for striking fire, a good Bowie knife. The next most valuable thing you would bring along is what is in your head ...


196 posted on 10/14/2012 10:27:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

COOKING pot, not a coking pot. Time for bed ...


197 posted on 10/14/2012 10:28:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: trailhkr1
1) Realistic, valid history book
To set forth the coming Islam storm. To better prepare the Crusades for TOTAL success.

To instruct Europe of the necessary sanitary conditions, causes of the plague.

To set forth the concept, ideals, ideas of the Declaration of Independence/Constitution.

2) All inclusive medical book

3) Doug Henning's Wonderful World of Magic OR the Joy of Cooking (I'll need a job). ;)

198 posted on 10/14/2012 10:37:06 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: MHGinTN

“The next most valuable thing you would bring along is what is in your head ...”

Probably the MOST important thing. The pot, fire making tools and knife were around back then. Although good Bowie knife would be a lot better. But even basic knowledge would be helpful (as posted above - bathing, washing hands, clean hygiene, etc.), and of course even more knowledge such as steel fabrication, natural medicine, etc. would get you even farther.

I think it is the hippie on that “Dual Survival” show that says something like “The most important survival gear is what is in your head. And it’s extremely portable.”


199 posted on 10/14/2012 10:44:27 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: 21twelve
I am assuming the most dangerous period is when first ‘on the scene’, so the basics to survive alone in the wild would be essential, to acclimate until ready to interact with the indigenous populace. Wouldn't want to be dropped int he middle of a village or town of 742AD. I would want to work my way slowly into the locale. Eventually, what is in my head would align me with 'The Church' or The Authorities, but not in any way a threat to their power.
200 posted on 10/14/2012 10:51:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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