Skip to comments.VANITY You Are Transported To The Year 742 AD Europe And Allowed To Bring 3 Items From The Future
Posted on 10/14/2012 8:02:34 AM PDT by trailhkr1
What would they be? A gun? Then you are only allowed to bring 2 bullets..see how that works?? Some basic ground rules..has to be a realistic items you can get you hands on today..no tanks etc. You are going with just the clothes on your back + the 3 items to survive an mingle with the folks of the day. Never coming back.
Saw this question on another site and wanted to see what you guys would come up with..I will post that link tomorrow after everyone has a chance to come up with their ideas..some people came up with good ideas (detailed history text of the time in Europe, antibiotics) and other people's ideas..not so much.
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Thanks a fool in paradise. I'd probably refuse to go (since it's a one-way trip), but if I *had* to go, I'd take three DIY type books.
I hear you on the book and the medicine. Give me a reliable sail boat; I know where the gold is.
1] My K Bar
2] Book of herbal medicine
3] Cold Steel War Hammer
4] Everything else I can pick up once there
You're going to be a busy little bee aren't you? LOL Planning to be your own ancestor?
Think I'll bring:
1) Large bag of gold coins.
2) Foxfire book
3) Penicillin-mega vial, or at least the formula to create it.
You are going with just the clothes on your back + the 3 items...
Wearing sturdy boots; good, wide-brimmed, rainproof hat; backpack; thermal underwear & socks; an all-weather poncho; combat pants; hunting or fishing vest full of pockets; long sleeved, lined flannel shirt with hood; and a pea-coat
Smooth-bore flintlock, about .60-.75 cal that would be useful with both balls and shot, loaded
A copy of Henley’s Formulas
A five pound can of FFFG black powder
Chemistry textbook. I think it would need to be in Latin. A mechanical watch. A gun/ammo.
“1. A nuclear warhead to be used in Mekkah.
2. A second nuclear warhead to be used in Medina.
3. A third nuclear warhead to keep any followers of Mohammed in line.”
Yahoo! Imagine there’s no islam and muslims terrorists, it’s easy if you try.
1. A friend/bodyguard. I’m not going there alone.
2. A letter of introduction to somebody in charge, so I’m not killed on sight.
3. A pile of local currency.
I’m not going anywhere without my microwave oven!
1. My wife
2. My dog pack
3. James Bond
Tetracycline will work just fine.
LOL, best so far.
Perhaps get the pages enclosed in that plastic stuff...what do you call it... All I can think about in this mental exercise is me compiling all the notes I need then promptly, 30 minutes into the trip, dropping the whole thing of paper into a river.
1. A Towel
2. A bread knife to make sandwiches
3. The Hitchhiker’s Guide
Allowed To Bring 3 Items From The Future
Washer/dryer combo unit
I’m really having trouble deciding on an iron or a vacuum cleaner.
book of Mohammed jokes and cartoons
Deodorant and razor to present to any female I might become attracted to and a half gallon of Tanqueray in case the deodorant and razor don’t work........
My credit card.
A cell phone.
Um. Oh, wait ...
Modern medicine book
Modern chemistry book
Modern engineering book
Oh... You read Latin or Greek? Oh... You got a plan to get into the monestaries to read the bible... Or do you plan on taking gold as an item to buy a Latin/Greek text for yourself? One thing for certain... You aren't gonna pop down to the life way store and buy a KJV/NIV/ESV.
3 carrrier groups.
Why? They had soap and fairly good soap at that.
Or at least a good wood burning stove for warmth and cooking!
Hosts, wine, chalice — praying that I would find a priest and we could have a Catholic Mass.
DING, DING, DING...
WE’VE GOT A WINNER!!!
The main downfall of civilization was the lack of the ability to make cheap paper. Why learn to read when you might see two books in your life time?
When Rome held Egypt there was a thriving paper industry and people learned to read if only to read the latest cheap thriller. (Yep they had those too!)
Make paper cheap and printing easy and you avoid the dark ages altogether.
While I was there I would invent the wheelbarrow, the horse collar and general ledger accounting.
Maybe I should have picked one of these:
Let the people of the 8th century think that's what the future becomes. Somebody might write a book about it.
Seriously? You mean pulp was once printed on papyrus?
1 case of toilet paper. Another case of toilet paper. Another case of toilet paper.
2.wind up flashlight
3.water filter straw
“they had bibles in 742 AD!”
Not for the common people. The Gutenberg printing press made it’s debut in 1436.
Not much of it survived but there was a lot of cheap fiction written and published back then. The idea that they sat around reading philosophy, history and what we would consider literature is based on the fact that those were the books that were copied onto parchment. “The Adventures of Zorbator the Great” was not worthy of being copied.
We do have a few of the most popular that survived like "Daphnis and Chloe" but mostly what we have are scraps.
The best most accurate flintlock rifle made historically. Lead balls and gunpowder can be made, and with the flint and steel you can make fire.
The Army field manual on first aid & general medicine (I presume there is some such animal). Note, you can make your own penicillin by taking an orange or other citrus fruit and letting it spoil. You will get a fine green mold. That is raw penicillin. You can scrape it off an use it. Most bad germs grow in an alkaline environment. The citrus is acid. I have used this on minor cuts, pimples and sores. Works like a charm.
A comprehensive survivalist manual oriented to construction and engineering. My boys used to have things like the Anarchists Cook Book lying around. One son is now in special forces.
Nah, all you need to do is stay away from rats and lice, and bathe.
If someone had told me that there were gladiator "trading cards" (without the bubblegum) I'd have said they were crazy, then I read such things actually existed. Human nature doesn't change.
If you planned to bring eyeglasses, you might be able to use that like a magnifying glass.
Rose hips. Those little red/orange balls that are ripening up just now on a lot of rose bushes. Pick them, cut them up, dry or refrigerate, use for tea or soup. Drop into boiling water. Heating slowly will tend to destroy the vitamin C.
I debated saying a very large bottle of multivitamins and minerals.
There is something called bog iron. We had it in New Jersey, it was smelted into iron and used for weapon and tool making. It is caused by the tannin from oaks and pines in the water interacting with iron deposits in the soil. Cakes up into hard chunks along water ways. I have seen old smelting chimneys constructed of stone in NJ about 15 or 20 feet tall.
Soap is not that hard. Basic ingredients, fat and lye from wood ash. Went to the fort at Boonesboro. There was a wooden box about 3 feet cubed. People in the fort brought their wood ash there and water was filtered through it and collected below for soap making. Beeswax makes the best candles, but tallow and lard will get the job done.
Someone else had the right idea with a Latin/English book. Latin was used by priests and a few literate people throughout Europe. With that you could find refuge in a monastery or nunnery until you learned the local language. I think in England they had Old Norse. I have a 15th century fascimile of a Spanish/English reader. In Spain they have had an academy for centuries to keep the language “pure”. Since I am fairly fluent in Spanish, it was actually easier to read and understand the Spanish than the English.
No bubblegum though.
I hate it when that happens.
Better have that letter written in Latin and Greek in ink on parchment.
A two quart steel coking pot (to boil water), a magnesium flatrod for striking fire, a good Bowie knife. The next most valuable thing you would bring along is what is in your head ...
COOKING pot, not a coking pot. Time for bed ...
To set forth the coming Islam storm. To better prepare the Crusades for TOTAL success.2) All inclusive medical book
To instruct Europe of the necessary sanitary conditions, causes of the plague.
To set forth the concept, ideals, ideas of the Declaration of Independence/Constitution.
3) Doug Henning's Wonderful World of Magic OR the Joy of Cooking (I'll need a job). ;)
“The next most valuable thing you would bring along is what is in your head ...”
Probably the MOST important thing. The pot, fire making tools and knife were around back then. Although good Bowie knife would be a lot better. But even basic knowledge would be helpful (as posted above - bathing, washing hands, clean hygiene, etc.), and of course even more knowledge such as steel fabrication, natural medicine, etc. would get you even farther.
I think it is the hippie on that “Dual Survival” show that says something like “The most important survival gear is what is in your head. And it’s extremely portable.”
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