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Texas schoolgirl left 'bruised and blistered' after male vice principal SPANKED her for cheating
The Daily Mail ^ | September 22, 2012 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 09/23/2012 8:56:34 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

A Texas schoolgirl is nursing a bruised and 'blistered' behind after she was spanked by her male vice principal. Springtown High School sophomore Taylor Santos was walloped by the teacher after allegedly letting another student copy her work. But her mother, Anna Jorgensen, has complained to the school, furious that they allowed her daughter to be brutally paddled by a man.

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The day after her daughter's spanking, Jorgensen called the vice principal to complain but he defended his actions. 'He told me this was normal for her bottom to look like this after receiving swats, and that he was not aware of the school policy that females swat females,' she said. 'He used too much force.'

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To: Bratch

Definitely not guilty. How could anyone think that she could have cheated????


51 posted on 09/23/2012 9:54:48 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: jakerobins

HA!

That is one ingenius observation!


52 posted on 09/23/2012 9:59:55 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Uncle Chip
I live very near where this happened. If the guy is guilty of a crime, he WILL be prosecuted.

Funny how some freepers immediately jump to screaming pervert from a 15 year old getting swats at school. Must be something they think of a lot.

/johnny

53 posted on 09/23/2012 10:00:28 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
The girl, will, however remember that event if she's ever tempted to cheat again.

The teacher/principal could simply have given both people involved in the cheating a failing GRADE.

"'He told me this was normal for her bottom to look like this..."

So... how does the principal know what the girl's bottom looks like? Does he inspect them after the spanking ?

"and that he was not aware of the school policy that females swat females..."

Yeah... because that kind of issue has never come up before, in the entire world of academia, and how can one expect a vice principal to be familiar with such mundane school policies.

54 posted on 09/23/2012 10:00:56 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Uncle Chip

I agree this principal’s got to go. It’s more than obvious that she’s NOT GUILTY!!!


55 posted on 09/23/2012 10:02:09 AM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Texas schoolgirl left 'bruised and blistered' after male vice principal SPANKED her for cheating

Fixed it.

56 posted on 09/23/2012 10:02:19 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: UCANSEE2
He certainly knows that a red bottom is the normal result of swats. Anyone but an idiot knows that. He doesn't have to look at her bottom to make that determination.

Lots of projection going on around this issue.

As I said, if he committed a crime, he will be prosecuted.

/johnny

57 posted on 09/23/2012 10:03:27 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Uncle Chip
What is a male principal doing spanking a girl of her age???

Well.... most of the female adults (teachers) won't let him spank them. And in his defense, I'm sure he only spanks the girls. At least the boys are safe.

58 posted on 09/23/2012 10:03:47 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You’re really into this thread, aren’t you?
Seems to bring back some fond memories.
Maybe you’ll eventually say something that makes sense,
and addresses the real issue.


59 posted on 09/23/2012 10:03:52 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: Uncle Chip

Taylor would get his head smacked by me if he pulled that on my daughter


60 posted on 09/23/2012 10:04:25 AM PDT by reefdiver (zer0 One and Done)
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To: Uncle Chip

I don’t condone cheating but a lot of posters on this board seem to take this more of joke. I just have one question:
Doesn’t Texas have laws against assault and battery?


61 posted on 09/23/2012 10:04:45 AM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: Lurker

“But these days I’d have to say the principal probably got off on it.”

The students the education community would pay to spank are members of “protected classes”.

‘Tis unlikely in the extreme that anyone “got off” weilding a paddle, but it is possible. Should we ask the Public Relations department of Pervs-R-Us?


62 posted on 09/23/2012 10:05:06 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Paddles cannot have protrusions like nails or screws,

That just takes all the fun out of it.


63 posted on 09/23/2012 10:06:20 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“I caught plenty of whacks in private school. They followed up with a phone call, so I had them waiting for me at home, too.”

Exactly! And look at how you turned out - a conservative and a FReeper as well!

;-)


64 posted on 09/23/2012 10:06:49 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: supremedoctrine
I think the country started going downhill when spankings became the cause celebre for the leftist crowd.

I believe in discipline for bad behavior, including cheating.

It can turn a good boy or girl to the right path, or at least make them think of consequences, even if they don't want to.

/johnny

65 posted on 09/23/2012 10:06:56 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: UCANSEE2

“Physical punishment , especially spanking, is not only useless, it is marginally pedo-masochistic.

So parents that spank are ‘marginal pedo-masochistics’?


66 posted on 09/23/2012 10:07:13 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Tuanedge
In our 1970's Catholic grade school, the nuns made good use of the yardstick. But, in the Catholic high school, there was no hitting. IMHO, corporal punishment too often backfires (which I think might be your opinion, too), especially in the teen years.

So many questions about this story:

Why is there even an option for a high school teen to choose being "paddled" over a suspension or detention?
Plus, if the student is choosing the punishment herself, how is it a deterrent, anyway?
Suppose a parent were doing the same thing - would the same school officials be calling Child Protective Services on the parent?
Suppose a homeschool parent had the same policy...?

67 posted on 09/23/2012 10:07:37 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: GladesGuru
And much more careful about getting caught... ;)

/johnny

68 posted on 09/23/2012 10:08:19 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: navyblue
Yes, we do, very strict laws. Especially if it involves minors, the elderly, or the handicapped.

Since no charges were filed and there is no mention of an investigation in the article, I'm assuming that no crime was committed.

/johnny

69 posted on 09/23/2012 10:11:33 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
If the guy is guilty of a crime, he WILL be prosecuted.

I doubt that he ever would. The school district will cover for him and at most he will be reprimanded and his contract not renewed or cancelled.

But you have to wonder if he in fact refers to this as "normal blistering"???

How often has he been doing this that he calls it "normal"???

Does the board of education know of this "normal" activity of his??? if not why not??? the community should be outraged.

70 posted on 09/23/2012 10:12:10 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: UCANSEE2
Once a child can talk, if you can’t outwit them, you are in trouble.

You are missing the point. Manipulating them denies them the choice and they never learn about choices and consequences.

And you are delusional if you think you can manipulate them into never doing wrong.

71 posted on 09/23/2012 10:13:19 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Uncle Chip
Did you read the article? Her fundament was red, there were no actual blisters, according to her mother.

The community won't be outraged. Swats are par for the course around here.

/johnny

72 posted on 09/23/2012 10:15:08 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Uncle Chip

There is the appearance of impropriety here, and the vice principal left himself wide open for questions as to whether he enjoyed it a little too much, when he offered up his expertise about just what a spanked rear normally looks like.

Wisdom of the policy aside, the vice principal is an idiot at a minimum and possibly could be deriving some sort of sexual thrill from this. Can him. Now. Hopefully this will stave off any lawsuits. You know there are other girls who will come forward after this.


73 posted on 09/23/2012 10:17:10 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: JRandomFreeper

How did he know it was normal?? Did he examine it???


74 posted on 09/23/2012 10:18:03 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
You are projecting. Mom said it was red. He told her that was normal. He's right, without having to examine it.

/johnny

75 posted on 09/23/2012 10:20:45 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Lots of projection going on around this issue.

Really? You might consider that you are the one being obsessive about projecting. ": )

However, the fact is that child abuse and sexual abuse in schools has been a growing concern and there is a great awareness among the public of the problem. The recent PENN STATE controversy comes to mind.

How in the world could this VICE PRINCIPAL be so DIMLY AWARE of what is going on in the Educational Field and LIFE in general (heck, even Law Enforcement requires that only FEMALE COPS pat down FEMALE SUSPECTS) that he thought SPANKING a 15 year old girl would not be a possible ISSUE ?

76 posted on 09/23/2012 10:21:12 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: UCANSEE2
I am familiar with this small town and the county, and if the guy committed a crime, he will be held to account.

/johnny

77 posted on 09/23/2012 10:26:13 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Uncle Chip

Where is this child’s father ? If that was my daughter I would discipline her myself for cheating but I would also be paying a visit to my lawyer and the school after leaving bail money with my wife because I would be thumping this guys head.


78 posted on 09/23/2012 10:26:19 AM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: Uncle Chip

She should have been spanked by a woman teacher/principal/coach rather than a man since at her age...15 or so 16 I’m guessing.. it most definitely does enter into the realm of sexual connotation

rare is a man who has not swatted a naked female butt at least once in his life and that young lady was far too much on the cusp of womanhood for a man to be doing that...God forbid with his bare hand...I would be furious

I am 110% for school spanking but after puberty they should be done by same sex administrator and always with an instrument like a paddle etc

I was spanked at school as a boy by women as a grade schooler by by junior high it was always been men*...coaches or assistant principal

* I had a lady principal who spanked me at aged 13..a very voluptuous yet stern lady...later she became principal of the local high school and was later caught having high school boys over while her husband was away on trips and plying them with drink and having gang bangs with 4-5 at a time...true story...

so..I am with the mom...that gal was too old for a man besides her husband one day to be spanking her


79 posted on 09/23/2012 10:27:22 AM PDT by wardaddy (this is a perfect window for Netanyahu to bomb Iran..I hereby give my go ahead..thanks Muzzie idiots)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Her fundament!?!

Oh my goodness.

I picked up an old Matt Helm novel the other day and was intrigued to see the (inevitable) babe described as shedding her “foundation garments”.

Things are getting p-r-e-t-t-y steamy around the old homestead....


80 posted on 09/23/2012 10:27:22 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; dixiechick2000; Travis McGee; Squantos
I was paddled in the 60s and 70s and it most definitely left bruises and welts

what sort of spanking does not leave at least a red welt?

aside from playful ones...which would not serve the purpose much would they?

holes in paddles were common too

worst paddle ever was a recurve bow wrapped in tape and with drilled holes in it used by my coach at Hardy Jr High in Jackson MS 1969-1970

it had a name...Oscar

and it would light you up

worst paddle I ever got was with a frat paddle in 9th grade for skipping a class and sassing teacher

by a one legged coach at Jackson Prep (forced busing 1970)..worst paddling ever my life..worse than my fathers

alas I have been so abused ...I know it shows...my meekness and timidity and all

best paddle I use...the big fat paint stirrers from Home Depot or Lowes...man...they have served me well with 3 lads all 2 years apart each...they see me grabbing those and they get right or run

81 posted on 09/23/2012 10:35:29 AM PDT by wardaddy (this is a perfect window for Netanyahu to bomb Iran..I hereby give my go ahead..thanks Muzzie idiots)
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To: bigheadfred; dixiechick2000

It’s not an atrocity...I’m all for spanking..kids at home or school .. or wives ..whatever

but this lass was too old for a man she aint’t married to to be spanking her

it is way way too much of a sexual thing at her age...look at her...especially with his hand fer God’s sake

I never spanked my own girls past 12-13 for the same reason

it just ain’t right to be touching a girls butt like that unless invited at an appropriate age and circumstance

boys...a whole nother matter..whup em good


82 posted on 09/23/2012 10:39:37 AM PDT by wardaddy (this is a perfect window for Netanyahu to bomb Iran..I hereby give my go ahead..thanks Muzzie idiots)
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To: count-your-change
So parents that spank are ‘marginal pedo-masochistics’?

No. Spanking is necessary, up to a point. The parents just have to realize when the spanking is no longer effective.

There are no set rules, no set 'ages' for these things to occur, and it is up to the parents to know what is right and when.

Often they don't, and.... well... nobody is perfect. Such is being a parent.

84 posted on 09/23/2012 10:46:39 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
As I said, if he committed a crime, he will be prosecuted.

So.... do you consider what he did a crime ?

85 posted on 09/23/2012 10:48:28 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: Tuanedge

The next school district meeting should be interesting.


86 posted on 09/23/2012 10:49:15 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

Mmmmmmmmm... spankelicious!

87 posted on 09/23/2012 10:49:33 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: UCANSEE2
Not from what was presented in the article.

/johnny

88 posted on 09/23/2012 10:51:28 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: wardaddy
the big fat paint stirrers from Home Depot or Lowes...man...they have served me well with 3 lads all 2 years apart each.

Raising three boys here, too. IMHO, it probably has less to do with the paddle and more to do with who's administering it. I never spanked or hit. A few times, though, when the first boy was a toddler, I had to employ a firm swat to keep him from running away, out into the street, etc. I still remember him laughing at me whenever I did it. Lucky for me, they've all turned out to be good boys.

89 posted on 09/23/2012 10:52:30 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Uncle Chip
My response to this and other complaints about spanking is this:

If a child deserves a spanking per policy, then the child is to be spanked. If the parent or ANYONE else comes to the school to complain, then that person will also be subdued and caned with two lashes. If that doesn't solve the problem, imprisonment. follows. We simply can not tolerate a rejection of values and proper procedure any more. No further discussion.

90 posted on 09/23/2012 10:54:56 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Since his verbal testimony is that he’s expert on the various stages of ass redness and butt trauma on underage girls...my question is, in the process of being an educator did he gain this expertise through personal experience, or “research”?

I’m not aware if one of the prerequisites for a teaching degree is “Evaluating Grades of Inflammation in Pubescent Glutes 101”... (that is, unless he graduated from Berkeley)


91 posted on 09/23/2012 11:03:48 AM PDT by Tuanedge
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To: UCANSEE2
“You spank little babies, because it is the only thing they understand.”

A little “marginal pedo-masochism” is o.k. for babies?

No, I don't spank ‘little babies’ since they can hardly be assumed to understand their actions or be held responsible.

92 posted on 09/23/2012 11:07:35 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Swats are par for the course around here.

Administered by grown men on 16 year old girls in the privacy of their office to the point of "normal" redness that if done by anyone who is not a principal would get them arrested for sexual molestation in most communities if not your own???

What community is that again???

93 posted on 09/23/2012 11:10:04 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Did the article say the swats occurred in the privacy of an office? If so, I missed it.

SOP around here used to be swats in the hallway.

/johnny

94 posted on 09/23/2012 11:11:48 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Tuanedge
The mother should take a copy of this thread to the next school district meeting.

I'm sure after the board and parents and district officials get finished reading it there will be plenty of redness in the room that exceeds the "normal" level.

95 posted on 09/23/2012 11:15:39 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: y6162
Seems like cruel and unusual punishment. Or a sex act.

You must be a youngster.

Our asst HS principal had a selection of paddles hanging on the wall behind his desk.
It tended to be the first thing one noticed upon entering.


96 posted on 09/23/2012 11:15:58 AM PDT by tomkat (it's time)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I can personally vouch for that.. 7th grade (History).. can’t remember what I did wrong, but I know I deserved it.

Prior to this happening, I hated the teacher AND history... I dunno how it worked, but History ended up being one of my favorite subjects.. and the teacher had transfered to High School and he was one of my favorite teachers there.. I went from a c student to A+ BEFORE I got to high school.. and I thank that one spanking for it.


97 posted on 09/23/2012 11:17:21 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: All

I see the pic of the clothed schoolgirl receiving a spanking, isn’t considered fit for public viewing.

No argument... In fact, I’d consider that judgement by the Mods to be evidence on the side of the prosecution.

If a school girl’s clothed, spanked red rump is too offensive for public view...why is it this union employee’s proclivities for a private showing, with YOUR young girls, endorsed by YOUR tax dollars?

Or is the question completely unreasonable?


98 posted on 09/23/2012 11:18:10 AM PDT by Tuanedge
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To: Uncle Chip
Taylor Santos was walloped by the teacher after allegedly letting another student copy her work.

Sounds like she was only guilty of letting someone cheat off of her work, but not cheating herself.
Splitting hairs I know.
If I was her father, the teacher would be talking his meals with a straw for a few days.
You don't do that to girls.

Nuff said.

99 posted on 09/23/2012 11:18:28 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: tomkat

pfft.. I went to Catholic school.

Paddle on a cusshy butt. pfft. Try taking a ruler across the knuckles from a bride of Jesus benton saving souls.


100 posted on 09/23/2012 11:19:15 AM PDT by y6162
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