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Itís Beer Thirty FReepers! Time For The Homebrewing / Wine Making Thread #13 September 14, 2012
Free Republic | 9-14-2012 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 09/14/2012 3:31:54 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good afternoon/evening FReepers. Yep, it is Beer Thirty Time Once Again!

Happiness is a bubbling airlock! And a Clod Brew

 

BEER


Last week we discussed making Hard Apple Cider. I don't live in an apple growing area and can't get local fresh pressed Apple Cider. I made the rounds of all the grocery stores in search of 100% unfiltered Apple Cider from fresh pressed apples. All I could find was a fresh pressed that had all the preservatives that are warned against when making a Hard Cider. In my wanderings I did find a commercial Hard Cider at a Krogers, Hornby's Hard Cider - Amber Draft, I bought a six pack. I have never had Hard Cider before and I was disappointed. I was expecting more of an apple flavor and aroma. I am now more determined in producing a Homebrewed Hard Cider. Can frozen Apple concentrate be used with any acceptable success?


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1 posted on 09/14/2012 3:32:04 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232
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To: quantim; spinestein; 5Madman2; DTogo; Horatio Gates; Ribeye; decal; B Knotts; doodad; hemogoblin; ..

Pinging the Homebrewer’s List.


2 posted on 09/14/2012 3:33:22 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
This was a small portion of last years harvest...

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3 posted on 09/14/2012 3:34:19 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Red_Devil 232
What ever you do don't drink the area 51 alien brew @ K's, unless you like paying 8 bucks a six for budweiser.

Looks like food processor and fresh apples time.

4 posted on 09/14/2012 3:36:05 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
In my experience, only if it doesn't have the preservatives.

Don't expect hard cider to taste like apples. It tastes like hard cider. Somewhat harsh, maybe a little sweet, depending.

My 'cider' summer brew is doing great, moving into cooler weather. I may be asleep in a couple of hours.

/johnny

5 posted on 09/14/2012 3:37:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: gorush

Wow great looking Hops harvest, what variety are they?


6 posted on 09/14/2012 3:38:13 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: gorush
Are those grubs or hops? Because one of those two things goes in beer... ;)

/johnny

7 posted on 09/14/2012 3:40:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The one I had seemed to have a slight and I mean very slight hint of a vinegar back taste to it. Is that to be expected? This was a sill Hard Cider do you carbonate yours?


8 posted on 09/14/2012 3:42:32 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Cascade mostly...some nugget.


9 posted on 09/14/2012 3:42:50 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: JRandomFreeper

All the frozen concentrates I found did not have the offending preservatives.


10 posted on 09/14/2012 3:46:33 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

If you need a reference to a good source, reply via FR mail.


11 posted on 09/14/2012 3:47:51 PM PDT by research99
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To: Red_Devil 232
Mine is carbonated. It's got an acidic twang to it.

Best to try it with no pre-conceptions. Accept it for what it is, H6C2O, with flavoring.

/johnny

12 posted on 09/14/2012 3:48:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Semper Fi, Brother! Thank you and your family for your outstanding service to our Nation! Please add me to your ping list - one of my jobs during college was working in a home wine-making retail store. I specialized in beers and have brewed some pretty nice Ales in my time. Also have done some hard cider. My product was more like a wine than cider - I used to get some pretty high alcohol. I used champagne yeast.

I used to go up the road to McCutcheon's in Frederick, Maryland. They sold unfiltered cider in just about any quantity you could ask for. I also used to buy honey there - much cheaper and also much better than what you find in the supermarket. Made a few batches of mead along the way as well. Haven't been active the last several years - just too busy.



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

13 posted on 09/14/2012 3:49:17 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Sugars and yeasts make alcohol if there aren't any preservatives.

Try it. It can't cost that much. At the worst, you feed the garden some nutrients.

/johnny

14 posted on 09/14/2012 3:51:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I would like to try and clone the Bavarian dark lager produced by Uli Bennewitz at his Weeping Radish Brewery in North Carolina. Not interested in lagering but figure someone has come up with a pretty good home brewing recipe. Any ideas?


15 posted on 09/14/2012 3:52:33 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: Red_Devil 232

Please add me to your ping list. About time for some serious learning here. burpppp.....


16 posted on 09/14/2012 3:53:04 PM PDT by tall_tex
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To: ConorMacNessa

You have been added.

I brewed up a Cranberry Mead last Nov. It was bottled about 5 months ago and should be ready for Thanksgiving.


17 posted on 09/14/2012 4:04:49 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Thanks very much!



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

18 posted on 09/14/2012 4:07:00 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Not beer or wine related, but headin’ to the Kentucky Bourbon Fest tomorrow. Need a break from all the news......


19 posted on 09/14/2012 4:07:28 PM PDT by colinhester
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To: tall_tex

You have been added.


20 posted on 09/14/2012 4:09:07 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: colinhester
Have a good time and arrive home safe!

The Grand Champion drink, and the Official Drink of the 2012 Kentucky Bourbon Festival, was "Strawberry Fields” Maker’s Mark Distillery.

Strawberry Fields Recipe

2 oz. Makers’s Mark
1 oz. Strawberry Syrup
1 oz. Dolin Blanc Vermouth
.25 oz. Bonal Aperitif Wine

Drink is to be stirred – not shaken
Serve up in a martini glass
Garnish with strawberry & mint sprig

 

21 posted on 09/14/2012 4:14:09 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: concentric circles

Probably hard to find a clone of a regional brew. You might just ask to talk to the brewer and see what he based his recipe on. Micro brewers often started as homebrewers and are happy to talk beer.

I’ve even asked for and got free yeast. I just had to plan ahead and bring in a sanitized jar. I got a quart of some very active yeast!

I currently have a cream ale cranking away. That’ll be kegged here in a week or so for a chili cook off. Then an Anchor Steam clone will be ready to keg a couple of weeks after that.


22 posted on 09/14/2012 4:20:20 PM PDT by brewer1516
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thank you. I plan on having a great time. I’m the DD....going for the food, music, and quality time with my wife. Recipe looks enjoyable....love MM!!


23 posted on 09/14/2012 4:23:46 PM PDT by colinhester
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To: Red_Devil 232

I took a 60 gallon apple juice barrel to the orchard and they allowed me to dump the bushels of apples, blended just the way I wanted into the cider press. I did an assortment and included a few bushel of pears. Put it in an oak barrel for secondary and it came out excellent.

The yellow delicious really finished out well in the aroma. It finished perfectly clear with no oxidation.


24 posted on 09/14/2012 4:26:35 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’ll be putting 5 gallons of cider into the carboy tomorrow.


25 posted on 09/14/2012 4:28:17 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Just got in the kits for Pumpkin beer and Holiday Beer from Midwest. Going to see how they turn out. With the pumpkin going to get some fresh pumpkin to mix in.

Can’t remember if this was communicated before but in this huge old book (about 700 pages) contains several pages of old brewing recipes.

http://modernsurvivalonline.com/Files/general%20survival/1881_Household_Cyclopedia.pdf


26 posted on 09/14/2012 4:35:47 PM PDT by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: gorush

Nice! I planted Cascade this year and got about a pound-and-a-half, but am looking forward to bigger and better next year. I understand that the first year they spend all their resources putting down a root system. I made a trellis out of PVC because I wasn’t sure whether I’d want to repeat the process, but seeing how well the first-year crop came out, I’ll be setting up something more permanent (and sturdier!) next spring.


27 posted on 09/14/2012 5:55:03 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: brewer1516; Red_Devil 232
Did some searching online. Uli's dark bavarian is called Black Radish and is one of the beers he has produced from day one on July 4th, 1986 when his brewery opened. It is a Schwarzbier and was the most mellow, most creamy beer I have ever tasted, a real revelation to me.

According to Brad Smith, at BeerSmith, a crock was found near Kulmbach Germany dating back to 800 BC with blackened barley bread inside – the standard material used to brew ancient Germanic beer. He says, "The key to making a good Schwarzbier is achieving the appropriate balance between the malt base, specialty grains and hops so that none of these ingredients overpowers the others."

"...The key is achieving the dark color needed without providing too much roasted flavor."

None of the following are attempts to reproduce the wonderful Black Radish, but its a start.

Pitch Black Schwarzbier - All Grain

Pitch Black Schwarzbier - Extract

Schwarzbieresque - Extract

Storm King Schwarzbier - All Grain

28 posted on 09/14/2012 6:05:08 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

My experience after four years is that they get bigger every year...this year being an exception due to lack of moisture yet they are still producing a bountiful harvest. But boy, set aside some time for harvesting. :{)


29 posted on 09/14/2012 6:22:00 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I just finished a Full Sail Pale Ale with a shot of bourbon to ease my aching feet after walking with a candidate for county commissioner. All brewing is taking second place to politics these days, but I wish the denizens of the brewing thread well!


30 posted on 09/14/2012 6:32:21 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone

Never heard of that cure for aching feet but it sounds like a perfectly appropriate remedy!


31 posted on 09/14/2012 6:41:18 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: concentric circles

Schwarzbier’s are on my brew list but haven’t yet. Sounds intriguing though so I may need to do one sooner rather than later.

Not sure how long you’ve been brewing so forgive the presumption here. If you do a lager, make very sure you include a diaceytl rest during fermentation otherwise you lager will taste like movie popcorn butter. I would also recommend a very healthy yeast starter and get the wort chilled down to about your fermentation temp (50 degrees?) before you pitch.


32 posted on 09/15/2012 4:47:03 AM PDT by brewer1516
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To: Red_Devil 232

Just bottled 45 bottles of Caribou Slobber ALe. I have 5 gal of Chinook IPA in the fermenter and planning on brewing a smashing pumpkin ale this weekend...

life is good :)


33 posted on 09/15/2012 5:48:37 AM PDT by wyowolf
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To: Red_Devil 232

It’s 6 am and I’m here waiting for sunrise to start a double batch day.

First up, an Octoberfest and batch 2 is going to be a hoppy pale ale using my homegrown hops.

It’s going to be a long brew day....

Cheers,

knewshound


34 posted on 09/15/2012 6:02:01 AM PDT by knews_hound (Reading without commenting since 2001.)
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To: JRandomFreeper; All

I am changing and amending my first impressions of the Hornsby’s Hard Cider I have been trying. After drinking a few more I am beginning to understand it’s flavors and I am enjoying it. It is a very nice drink. Ice cold - refreshing!


35 posted on 09/15/2012 7:24:34 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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