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New Mac Old Dell/W98 any uses
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Posted on 07/31/2012 8:06:06 AM PDT by t1b8zs

Finally after 12 yrs a new puter. After I stumble over the learning curve,transfer every thing, can the old be utilized for any thing or should I just pull the HD and trash it. It runs W98 with Work Suit 2000. Theres a bit of hoarder in me


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1 posted on 07/31/2012 8:06:07 AM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: t1b8zs

I’m using a 14 year old puter I paid $3k for as a door stop right now. It runs fine...


2 posted on 07/31/2012 8:09:04 AM PDT by BreezyDog (PLAN A: A Peaceful Restoration of the Republic.....PLAN B: A Restoration of the Republic)
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To: t1b8zs
If it's functional I'd save it.
3 posted on 07/31/2012 8:09:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barack.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: t1b8zs

I’ll take it


4 posted on 07/31/2012 8:10:26 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: t1b8zs

Unless you’re sentimental about it, you could wipe the HDD and sell it....probably worth a few dollars....


5 posted on 07/31/2012 8:10:33 AM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: t1b8zs

It depends - do you still find a need for a 2001 Yellow pages?


6 posted on 07/31/2012 8:11:00 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: t1b8zs

I use an old Osborne1 portable as a boat anchor.. The handle was a nice place to tie a rope.

While it was one of the first “portable” machines it weights about 40 lbs.

As to yours, there are some groups that take them and refreb um and send them to third world countries.

Do a military level format of the drive, or remove it and smash it to bits.


7 posted on 07/31/2012 8:11:26 AM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: t1b8zs

I use an old Osborne1 portable as a boat anchor.. The handle was a nice place to tie a rope.

While it was one of the first “portable” machines it weights about 40 lbs.

As to yours, there are some groups that take them and refreb um and send them to third world countries.

Do a military level format of the drive, or remove it and smash it to bits.


8 posted on 07/31/2012 8:11:41 AM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: BreezyDog
I updated to an iMac two years ago. I still have the ten year old Dell which I use as a radio. It went through a near-death experience (blue screen trojan attack.) The local computer guy debugged it and put back the basic MS program.
9 posted on 07/31/2012 8:12:38 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (I didn't post this. Someone else did.)
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To: t1b8zs

If it works fine, store it as a backup. Redundancy is good. Having a plan b or plan c is good. If you’ve got the room save it. Besides compared to some of the startup times these things run lean O/S’s compared to the bloatware of today.


10 posted on 07/31/2012 8:15:19 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: t1b8zs

Some guys install Linux and a few network cards and use them for homemade routers.


11 posted on 07/31/2012 8:16:04 AM PDT by proxy_user
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To: t1b8zs

If you load a lightweight Linux version on it, you can probably use it as a file server.

Backup files from your other computers to it or keep commonly used files in a central place.

The bottle-neck on file servers is usually the NIC, not the cpu, so there’s a good chance this computer would be fast enough for use as a home file server.


12 posted on 07/31/2012 8:17:42 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Obama Admits He Can't Fix What Bush Broke, So Why Reelect Obama?)
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To: t1b8zs

My XP died (motherboard) just before Thanksgiving 2011. Luckily, I had just ordered a new Win7.

The XP is still sitting on the floor. It has some good componenets — 2 DVD recorders, new fan, old 56k modem, etc.

Even the ole lcd 20” monitor was going bad.

I hate to trash them because of the still-working components, but the components wouldn’t bring $2.00 at a garage sale.


13 posted on 07/31/2012 8:17:53 AM PDT by TomGuy
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The recorders are worth 5-10 bucks. Likely the old IDE interface that is being replaced with SATA and thus, they probably won’t work in a newer PC.

The little XP sticker is probably worth 5-10 bucks too..

Part it now before it costs you $ to get rid of it.

(e-waste)


14 posted on 07/31/2012 8:19:47 AM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: t1b8zs

Wipe the drive and put it on craigslist. You might get $20.


15 posted on 07/31/2012 8:21:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the collectivists.)
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To: t1b8zs

Day blo up reel nize!


16 posted on 07/31/2012 8:22:33 AM PDT by pingman ("Human history seems logical in afterthought, but a mystery in forethought." (Strauss & Howe))
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To: t1b8zs

Get Parallels or some such for running Windows on your Mac. Move the files, re-install any programs you want, and recycle the old PC.

While I appreciate the pack-rat nature of trying to save & use everything which has served you well, realize that the technology has moved on so far & fast that any time you spend trying to maintain that old beast is better spent earning the paltry sum needed to buy a dirt-cheap modern machine which is orders of magnitude superior. Parallels etc. is, what, $75? and you already have the screaming-fast hardware to run it on.


17 posted on 07/31/2012 8:24:58 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: t1b8zs

Depending on the state you live in, there may be environmental laws requiring proper disposal of the computer. So, before you throw it in the trash, check into your local laws. And be prepared to pay a fee for the disposal.


18 posted on 07/31/2012 8:24:58 AM PDT by DallasDeb (usafa06mom)
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To: t1b8zs

Isn’t that what that hole that goes under your house is for? Throwing things down so that your grandchildren can find the old antiques when you’re gone!


19 posted on 07/31/2012 8:27:50 AM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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To: t1b8zs

if you have a boat, you now have an auxiliary anchor.


20 posted on 07/31/2012 8:32:03 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: DallasDeb

“Depending on the state you live in, there may be environmental laws requiring proper disposal of the computer. So, before you throw it in the trash, check into your local laws. And be prepared to pay a fee for the disposal.”


I was going to do that, until my last Windows 2000 machine was lost in a tragic boating accident.


21 posted on 07/31/2012 8:35:12 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: t1b8zs

12 years?!?
Not even a boat anchor.
No one will buy it - in fact, you’re probably going to have to pay someone to take it off your hands - with all of the lead and other metals inside, you can’t just toss it into a landfill.
Just remember to remove the hard drive, and drill a couple of holes through it before tossing it.


22 posted on 07/31/2012 8:38:11 AM PDT by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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To: t1b8zs

Linux.


23 posted on 07/31/2012 8:42:46 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: freedomlover
I was going to do that, until my last Windows 2000 machine was lost in a tragic boating accident.

It might just be sitting on top of the gigantic, submerged pile of lost guns. You might be able to just reach down a foot or two and pull it back out.

24 posted on 07/31/2012 8:43:24 AM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: t1b8zs

Say goodbye.

I have had to say goodbye to many things, some would be low level collectibles today.

The original Magnavox Odyssey. The Spectravideo SV-318 (Z-80 CP/M), various homebrew DOS boxes, a Pentium 75. I had a Mac IIx that originally cost $9,000 (80 GB SCSI and 9 MB RAM!).

I don’t regret any of it.

My wife’s computer died after a storm last week. It was a Pentium IV with a low end Intel brand mb.

If I had not freecycled a bunch of old gear three months ago, I might have cobbled together a working machine after hours of hunting and two days of work.

Instead, I went on Craigslist and picked up a working Dell GX270. In one day. For $50.

The $50 was worth the loss of aggravation and room.


25 posted on 07/31/2012 8:43:55 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: mkleesma

My thoughts zacly as it was in the house in Laud where 3 single male maniacs lived so no telling whats imbedded on the HD.CD drive shot sound shot ..Probly pull the HD,disect it, and piece by piece put it in the trash.
Town will take the monitor.Thanks all


26 posted on 07/31/2012 8:51:19 AM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: pingman

***Day blo up reel nize!***

My first real computer blew up, and I mean BLEW UP!


27 posted on 07/31/2012 8:51:45 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (EAT MORE CHICKEN! Beef is too high!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Personally I NEVER sell my HD anywhere, you think it is wiped clean but trust me it is not. I have been in the biz better than 35 years and I would rather destroy the old drives rather than worry about what is still recoverable on them. With the right recovery software a lot can be gleaned from it, hence the whole industry segment of data recovery services.

As to the other recommendations, Linux may work but if the drive is that old it probably has a low rotational speed (5400 at best) and low density

Personally I would sell what I could minus the HD and call it a day


28 posted on 07/31/2012 8:56:20 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: t1b8zs

I’ll have to say that my mind boggles that no one has suggested that it be used for close-range, full-auto target practice of one sort or another. No, full-auto you say? No, problem, I say. How about using it as a target for SEMI-auto firearm practice instead?

I do however strongly recommend the use of high-powered rounds to assure full penetration and thereby reduce ricochets, and please, please, please pick up the pieces afterwards and take them to your nearest recycling center. After all, cleanliness is next to Godliness, or at least so I have been told. Oh, and be prepared with a cover story should the recycling center attendant look askance at your sorry pile of parts. You know, something like, “I guess I finally lost it. The damn thing finally just blue-screened one times too many.”


29 posted on 07/31/2012 8:58:42 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: 100American
Eraser
30 posted on 07/31/2012 9:02:10 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the collectivists.)
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Use an Ubuntu Live CD to Securely Wipe Your PC’s Hard Drive
31 posted on 07/31/2012 9:05:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the collectivists.)
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To: t1b8zs

Smash the disk with a sledge hammer after copying its contents to your new machine. Recycle.

Or install Linux and use it for a file server, router, firewall, or PBX switch.

www.asterisk.org


32 posted on 07/31/2012 9:09:35 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

FWIW I have an old microwave in my workshop (that probably weighs 100 pounds) that I use to fry various hard disks, half burned CDs, etc.

If nothing else it is fun to watch the light show.


33 posted on 07/31/2012 9:12:35 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: t1b8zs
I'd try installing these Linux flavors on it (if you don't like one, try the next):
34 posted on 07/31/2012 9:18:56 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Darik's Boot and Nuke

Burn it onto a CD; boot it and follow the instructions. Perfect for wiping HDs in hardware you intend to get rid of, OS and all.

35 posted on 07/31/2012 9:19:58 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: ShadowAce; t1b8zs
I’ll take it

OUT DA WAY! I SAW IT FIRST!

36 posted on 07/31/2012 9:21:08 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; 100American
Oops, bad link the first time. Let's try that one again.

Darik's Boot and Nuke

Burn it onto a CD; boot it and follow the instructions. Perfect for wiping HDs in hardware you intend to get rid of, OS and all.

37 posted on 07/31/2012 9:22:18 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Love the cult, respect the leader, but I simply can't drink the koolaid and die.)
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To: martin_fierro
OUT DA WAY! I SAW IT FIRST!

Hmmm.. I posted in #4, you posted in #34.

I think I saw it first :P~~~

38 posted on 07/31/2012 9:26:35 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: t1b8zs

I’ll give you $10 for it. I’ll run Linux on it and use it as a clock, or a weather map, or a radio, or whatever. The machine my kids use is every bit that old.


39 posted on 07/31/2012 9:35:27 AM PDT by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: ShadowAce

Maybe he’s running ie?


40 posted on 07/31/2012 9:36:24 AM PDT by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: t1b8zs

If it runs, set it up as a security system. Have it guard your house.


41 posted on 07/31/2012 9:59:19 AM PDT by MtnMan101
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To: MtnMan101

Is this sarc?If not,how


42 posted on 07/31/2012 11:18:02 AM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: Riley

We FReepers must be terrible boaters. So many of us have suffered tragic boating accidents along with the horrible loss of thousands of dollars worth of valuable firearms. And now it’s coming to include computers . . .


43 posted on 07/31/2012 11:51:40 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Dr. Sivana

Talking about collectibles, I bought a Curta II mechanical calculator in 1970 to work on tax and estate paperwork. A year later the electronic hand held calculators began to come out at about the same price, $160.00, IIRC. I immediately knew the Curta was obsolete, so I decided to keep it in its original box with its original instructions on the hunch it would become a real collectible. Now, 42 years later, it is a collectible and is worth about $1,400. Since I don’t really need the money, I’m keeping it and my heirs will probably get it. Because it looks a bit like an exotic bomb, I’ve decided not to take it on an aircraft.


44 posted on 07/31/2012 12:04:52 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

That is a great story. That’s thinking ahead.


45 posted on 07/31/2012 12:36:11 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: Dr. Sivana

True, but to be a bit self-deprecating, the Curta calculator was and is such a superbly made, slightly quirky, mechanical gem, that it was immediately obvious the electronics would obsolete it and that it wold become a collectible. All I had to do was sit on it for 42 years to wait for it to ripen. It’s also such a super cool little gadget that I never wanted to get rid of it.


46 posted on 07/31/2012 1:26:49 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: t1b8zs

Rifle Range = Target Practice. Even more fun if you get some Tannerite!


47 posted on 07/31/2012 1:34:14 PM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: t1b8zs

You have to be a little handy at this but the computer does have ports, both serial and parallel. If old enough it will also have a RS232 port. All of these can be connected to outside devices. (I once saw a fellow operate Christmas light shows and fountain water shows long ago with a PET processor on less than 1meg CPU & 16K of memory)
Also there just HAS to be software out there that would support this use in the great cyber library. I’d start at MajorGeeks.com Do a search, check into it.


48 posted on 07/31/2012 2:18:50 PM PDT by MtnMan101
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To: t1b8zs

I assumed that your PC has no USB. If it does.....YOUR HOME FREE !! It’s a real easy set up with CCD cameras


49 posted on 07/31/2012 2:23:34 PM PDT by MtnMan101
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To: t1b8zs
Linux.

I have three of my own computers here in my home office (not counting the wife's machines). This one runs W7, one runs Linux Mint, and the third runs on Mepis (Mepis is good for running on older hardware).

Sometimes when I've got my work laptop fired up, I'll have all 4 machines running at once. Why do I do it? Because I can.
:)

It's fun to experiment with different operating systems and not having to worry if you trash anything and have to start over.

50 posted on 07/31/2012 2:52:44 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Aim Small, Miss Small)
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