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NCAA imposes stiff penalties on Penn State
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | July 23, 2012 | Jeremy Roebuck

Posted on 07/23/2012 8:24:17 AM PDT by Zakeet

College sports' governing body today suspended Penn State's football team from postseason bowl play for four years and fined the university $60 million for its handling of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.

The team also must vacate all wins from 1998 through 2011.

"The career record of former head football coach Joe Paterno will reflect these vacated records," the NCAA said in a statement. "Penn State must also reduce 10 initial and 20 total scholarships each year for a four-year period. In addition, the NCAA reserves the right to impose additional sanctions on involved individuals at the conclusion of any criminal proceedings."

The fines are to be paid into an endowment for non-university programs preventing child sexual abuse or assisting victims, the NCAA said.

"The NCAA recognizes that student-athletes are not responsible for these events and worked to minimize the impact of its sanctions on current and incoming football student-athletes," the statement said. "Any entering or returning student-athlete will be allowed to immediately transfer and compete at another school. Further, any football student-athletes who remain at the university may retain their scholarships, regardless of whether they compete on the team."

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Sports
KEYWORDS: absolutemorals; coverup; homosexualagenda; ncaa; pennstate; sandusky
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To: dfwgator

Who cares? Maybe if State College. PA and Penn State cared more about child rape instead of minor league amateur football maybe they wouldn’t be in this boat. This goes for all other college towns too. While previous college football corruption was not as disgusting as the Penn State situation, it’s the culture of college football that creates these problems. The NCAA needs to drop the hammer on schools that violate the rules in the future. If that hurts the team, who cares?


161 posted on 07/23/2012 10:14:12 AM PDT by wrcase
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To: USMCWife6869
Upon further investigation, I found the students who do leave will be losing their scholarships. They will either lose the scholarship and have to pay as a walk-on at their new school or, if the new school gives them a scholarship, it will come from a scholarship from another student.

Not really. A gaining school will have to have a scholarship to give. Athletic scholarships open all the time for a variety of reasons, rarely does a recruiting class move all the way through their eligibility intact. Say a very talented athlete wants to transfer to UNC. They will no doubt have a couple of slots available without stripping an scholarship from a current athlete.

A PSU player who may not have developed into the type of athlete everyone projected will be able to leave the PSU team and heep his scholarship at PSU.

162 posted on 07/23/2012 10:14:50 AM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: DeaconRed

Big Ten just said the PSU cannot share in Bowl Revenues.

They are done in the Big Ten, IMHO....actually the Big East probably would take them.


163 posted on 07/23/2012 10:14:50 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: DeaconRed
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164 posted on 07/23/2012 10:15:02 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: DeaconRed

Now time to Move on to Indiana University Bloomington and Get sanctions on University whose Professor and Part time IU Badminton Coach was a Self Confessed Pedophile of Boy scouts while camping.He was the #13 Eagle Scout in Existence. He also wrote about Sex and wrote a study where one Part documented over 300 Plus cases of pedophilia sodomy or Masturbation and categorized them by age groups starting with <6 months old. His study was called Human sexuality of the Male and he was the Father of the Sexual Revolution His name ALFRED Kinsey. NCAA begin the sanctions!


165 posted on 07/23/2012 10:15:48 AM PDT by philly-d-kidder (AB-Sheen"The truth is the truth if nobody believes it,a lie is still a lie, everybody believes it")
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To: Perdogg
We live in America, not Cuba or Iran , people are entitled to the presumption of innocence. I thought we believed in the 4th amendment as conservatives. I guess we just decide when we don’t like someone that individual is guilty of something. That is my point.

If somebody reported to you that a man was raping little boys using the facilities that you control, would you pick up the phone and call the cops?

It's a simple yes or no question, no need to play any word games. Yes or no.
166 posted on 07/23/2012 10:16:27 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Perdogg

“I thought we believed in the 4th amendment as conservatives.”

Sure, we believe in the 4th amendment, but that amendment is only a restriction on the government, not on the individual. We, as individuals, are all free to form our own opinions as to whether someone is guilty or innocent.

With Paterno, it isn’t about “not liking” him. There are plenty of people, like me, who had no opinion about the guy one way or the other, before this case became news, who have concluded that the guy made some really bad, probably criminal decisions. We didn’t conclude that because we wanted to, but because that’s what the evidence suggests. The public is not going to pretend that evidence doesn’t exist because Paterno died before he had his day in court.


167 posted on 07/23/2012 10:16:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: commish

I think now that is part of the reason Urban Meyer is no longer at Florida, he was starting to get some heat for the many arrests, found out some people in the administration didn’t have his back, and basically quit on them.


168 posted on 07/23/2012 10:16:48 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: ryan71

sorry, but in an case of college sports wrongdoing..the NCAA will meet out restrictions, punishments and fines...Those that aren’t involved suffer the consequences as well.

“Innocents” get the consequences just as those who comitted the actual guilty act..just in this case its very severe consequences...we never hear “that’s not fair to the others” if its just a one game supsension or such.

That is part of being on a “TEAM”...if you win bigtime, you get the glory, if something bad happens, you get the shame.


169 posted on 07/23/2012 10:17:22 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

The other point was the make sure that Penn State could never use Paterno’s legacy as a selling point in the future. Twenty years from now, Penn State students will be saying “Joe Who?”


170 posted on 07/23/2012 10:19:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Gil4
Paterno heard the ‘allegations’ - an eye witness account - from a guy he gave a job to for the next decade plus.

Either McQueary wasn't a credible witness and Paterno gave him a job DESPITE him making up seeing things in the showers (that other people had seen before) - or McQueary was a credible witness and Paterno did nothing other than to give him a job - and then ignore Sandusky parading young boys around the Penn State campus for a decade plus - having them be his ‘dates’ at banquets, etc.

Paterno notified Sandusky that there was an eyewitness account of what he did in the shower - enabling him to silence the victim who still has never been heard from.

Paterno quashed the move the take this to actual authorities by saying it wouldn't be “humane”; humane to Sandusky - his concern was for Sandusky.

Paterno was directly involved in the cover-up that enabled Sandusky to continue raping boys - AND continue to use the Penn State facility as the “currency” with which he “groomed” his victims - and often the location of their rape.

It happened in Paterno’s facilities, due to Paterno doing everything he could to cover it up.

171 posted on 07/23/2012 10:20:14 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: 100American
No one at [USC] had any incolvement in this action but they were “cited” by the NCAA for lack of institutional control, no trial was held and it was a decision from a Board of Trustees, not a trial.

1. The NCAA determined that an assistant football coach had knowledge of the improper benefits that Reggie Bush's parents were receiving.

2. Reggie Bush received improper benefits directly (remember his car? The rims? The stereo system? The clothes? The trips? The spending money?). Not all of the benefits went to his parents.

3. USC was permitting agents to have sideline access during football games, and locker room access before and after games.

4. At the same time that Reggie Bush and his parents were receiving benefits, basketball player OJ Majo was receiving cash and benefits from a booster.

When your start football player and basketball player are both receiving improper benefits, your football team is improperly permitting sports agents onto the sidelines and into the locker rooms, and an assistant coach knew about the benefits to Reggie Bush's family - that's lack of institutional control.

172 posted on 07/23/2012 10:20:14 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: dfwgator

It really is about the cover-up since 1998 and the NCAA took Paterno’s wins away back to the first incident.


173 posted on 07/23/2012 10:21:07 AM PDT by jeeperz
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To: 100American
Three seconds of Google and here's the first post about the USC assistant coach who knew about the benefits to the Bush family.

Link

174 posted on 07/23/2012 10:22:11 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: EEGator

That’s life....the local economy makes money if the TEAM wins and is drawing in people and money....If it doesn’t, oh well, that is the flip side.
You can’t just take the economic gains and if something happens to damage those possible future gains then demand that “it’s just a few people in the football group....”

No its PSU—in Glory, money days or in bad times.

BTW, THIS is exactly why no one wanted to prosecute Sandusky or stop him....EVERYBODY in that town was making money and the people that knew didn’t want to mess with that, or their own money or fame.


175 posted on 07/23/2012 10:22:28 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: NCLaw441

“But let’s say Sandusky beat his wife, and Paterno got wind of it. Is Paterno supposed to publicize this and advise the NCAA about it?”

No, he would not be required to alert the NCAA. But if he covered up a crime to prevent negative publicity harmful to the Penn State football program, thus avoiding a negative impact on recruiting and donations, then yes, the NCAA would punish the school.


176 posted on 07/23/2012 10:23:16 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: ilgipper
I think you nailed it exactly. There is essentially a lynch mob mentality right now in this case. He clearly mishandled, but the extent is being bent way out of proportion.

Waiting a few days or weeks to call the cops on a homosexual pedophile is mishandling things. Not doing anything for a decade is enabling the pedophile.

It's a shame the little boy being raped wasn't related to Paterno - if he loved his family as much as people said he did, he clearly would have done something to try and protect that little boy.
177 posted on 07/23/2012 10:23:24 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: dfwgator

Looks like Miami will be coming into focus very quickly, not for the same reasons but focus none the less. A bit of schadenfreude as it were considering big time backer (now deceased)Paul Dee was a member of the COI that hammered USC for far less in an unprecedented move.

The guy Shapiro mentioned in the article has been working with The U for years and all of this is about to come out, will not be pretty

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1266891-miami-hurricanes-staff-allegedly-used-booster-to-bypass-recruiting-restrictions?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=college-football


178 posted on 07/23/2012 10:24:22 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: 100American

Yep, Miami is going down, especially since it happened under their new coach.


179 posted on 07/23/2012 10:25:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: littleharbour

Paterno’s huge mistake was in not insisting that Sandusky be completely barred from campus until the allegations were completely investigated and a decision made..

...no, Paterno’s huge mistake was apparently convincing Curley to go against an original plan to notify the Child Welfare Agency...I understand that he may have felt he was helping a longtime friend and associate, but it was a blunder of immense proportions...


180 posted on 07/23/2012 10:27:30 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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