No judging from me.
Tear gas?
Prayers for the victims and their families.
Suprise and confusion
Dark and ear shattering noise.
Obstacles-rows of seats between them and the killer.
People shot, scattering, piling up
How many people could possibly have had the opportunity to charge him? Those who could were likely already dead or wounded.
Being at a movie puts you into a spectator mode, and I would guess many of the people there were just waiting to see what was going to happen next.
Most front rows where freer movement is allowed by not being boxed in, are usually filled with the youngest in the crowd. With everybody seated and no guns allowed, movement was restricted greatly by the rows of seats and rows and rows of panicked people...one eyewitness account said he shot those closest to him first(whether true or not???).... for someone to get to him before being shot would have been a miracle in that sardine can.
any one basing their life on comic book movies at midnight is either too stoned or too stupid or both to do much but eat large bags of Doritos and say “dude” repeatedly.
I’ll bet that a few of the movie goers tried but were shot dead. There are probably a couple of REAL heroes among the dead. One military serviceman, perhaps. It’s just like 911.. The next dude who tries this will get rushed, big time.
Here’s a better question posed by Rep. Gohmert: Did No One Else in Aurora Theater Have a Gun?
http://news.yahoo.com/rep-gohmert-did-no-one-else-aurora-theater-183314031—abc-news-politics.html
He could have had a knife or an infected needle.
He could have had an accomplice.
He was killing people. He went into a theater where he knew there would be unarmed, unprepared people. He was in body armor with crotch and neck guards. The shooter knew he would cause terror.
I’m sure most people in that theater were confused as to what was going on. A lot of them thought it was a publicity gimmick.
I don’t fault anyone who ran. I don’t think they’re cowards.
Quite probably because CCW is illegal in Aurora.
CO is, IIRC, a shall-issue State; but, some municipalities have been allowed to get away with local bans. Aurora is one of those municipalities.
The shooter looked like a member of a SWAT team. And that’s part of the problem. We have been conditioned that anyone dressed lile Holmes is a cop. By the time they figured out what was happening, it was too late.
We all like to think we would have done something. But I probably would have hunkered down or ran like they did. But I wouldn’t run off and leave my wife.
After watching the lynching George Zimmerman is going through, here where I live, after defending himself from a “No Limit N-—” ghetto thug...I can understand a little bit more why people are hesitant to defend themselves
More and more, as the media paints Holmes as “mentally ill” ,and, not a “criminal”, you can be sure this same media would have attacked any one that would defend themselves
Of course, the theatre’s ban on weapons limited any one from defending themselves.....which is why I am against any business having any rule that punishes customers and employees from defending themselves against real-time criminal acts....A businesses rights end when they interfere with mine...especially my Right to Self Defense
Infantry are trained in immediate response to orders. For example, “AMBUSH RIGHT!” everybody immediately flanks right and charges firing with whatever you have.
You know you will suffer tremendous casualties, but if you do not prevail, you are in a kill zone and will be killed.
The WWII and Korean War generation had grown up playing in the outside and had a greater instinct to mix it up in a fist’ocuffs and prevailing.
This generation at best might be tooled up to more quickly play computer games, but hesitates at real world fist o cuffs.
Even with this perspective, some reports indicated he was armed with upwards of 2-9mm/40cal pistols, a shotgun and an AR-15. Smaller caliber pistols and possibly the AR-15 in single shot mode might be rushed before collapsing, but the shotgun is a formidable equalizer.
It would probably take 3-5 men rushing him concurrently and 4 being killed before one could engage him physically, then others could join in. He might have been able to also defend off 20-40 consecutively in that situation.
I haven’t heard if he deployed smoke or teargas. If teargas, such as CS, then it incapacitates and the rush would only last as long as you could hold your breath in those tight quarters.
On the other hand, with the gas mask, his visibility is greatly confined so it would be much easier to catch him from a blind spot.
For those under attack, you wouldn’t know how many attackers there were,..necessarily, adding to the uncertainty.
Most hand-to-hand combat situations are over within 2 seconds. A knife in a hand fight prevails and a gun is a great equalizer in a knife fight. Automatic weapon fire gains fire superiority and it takes equal to 3x as much firepower to gain superiority depending upon the endurance, motivation, and willpower of those engaged.
If there is a reasonable chance of success, I hope that I’d make the move. But you don’t know until you’re there, and suicide isn’t in my genetic makeup.
Why did no one jump him?
Same reason no one jumped the VA tech killer, but watched him reload like sheep.
For most Americans, it would have been a long commute.
5.56mm
The problem is the cell phone. Since they invented the cell phone, there are very few pay
phone booths. No phone booths, nowhere to change into the Superman outfit.
Sort of a foolish and somehow inappropriate question being discussed. The killer was prepared fir a massacre. The audience was ready for a movie.
Yeah, why didn’t one of our precious, ultraprivileged young females go all Xena Warrior Princess and take him out with one sweeping ninja move?