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Wet climate may have fueled Mongol invasion
NBC News ^ | July 20, 2012 | Stephanie Pappas

Posted on 07/20/2012 6:55:45 PM PDT by rjbemsha

Consistent rain and warm temperatures may have given the Mongols the energy source they needed to conquer Eurasia: grass for their horses (huge amount of grass needed to feed the 10 horses for each Mongol warrior).

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: History; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; dendrochronology; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; mongolinvasion; mongolpologists
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According to lead researcher, dendochronologist Amy Hessl, "...we can see that the [tree] rings are not only wide [indicating wetter climate], but they're consistently wide for the time that overlaps with the rise of Genghis Khan."
1 posted on 07/20/2012 6:55:53 PM PDT by rjbemsha
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To: rjbemsha

Ghengis Kahn’s decedents ruled into the 20th century. His is an amazing story of conquest and it was benevolent (for the most part...if you can get beyond that “give us 10% for protection or all in this city will die” part) He and his offspring were responsible for printed currency, the postal service...and the plague that decimated Europe. (not intentionally, though)


2 posted on 07/20/2012 7:07:02 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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3 posted on 07/20/2012 7:22:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: gorush
10% eh?

That's much better than the Bush tax cuts!

That casts the Mongol conquests in a whole 'nuther light!

4 posted on 07/20/2012 7:37:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Sirry Mongorians.


5 posted on 07/20/2012 7:42:19 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Mongo just pawn in game of life.


6 posted on 07/20/2012 8:21:47 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: gorush

ah yes... the ‘everybody in this city dies’ = benevolence.

Gotcha.


7 posted on 07/20/2012 8:25:07 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: gorush

Benevolent Mongols. That is of course why they killed roughly 10% of the world’s population, more than any other group has ever been able to achieve.

Even the 20th century commies were only able to get up to maybe 3%.


8 posted on 07/20/2012 8:57:05 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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9 posted on 07/20/2012 9:36:35 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: Sherman Logan

History is what it was, who knows the truth these many millennia later. No sense arguing.


10 posted on 07/20/2012 9:50:18 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: gorush; rjbemsha
>>> His is an amazing story of conquest and it was benevolent

Sorry, not if you were Han (Chinese). Their rule was brutal, but short lived. Where did you get this Ghengis Kahn's decedents ruled into the 20th century from?

As for the warm climate fuel the Mongol expansion into the West, too early to speculate at this point.

11 posted on 07/20/2012 10:02:50 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: gorush

Technically speaking, the Mongol Empire was less than a millenium ago. But who’s counting.


12 posted on 07/20/2012 10:06:55 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I was deployed to Uzbekistan in 2003. Local contractor secretaries were all beautiful Uzbek girls. They spoke excellent English, thought Islam sucks, liked vodka & rock music, and dressed as they pleased. Hated Afghanistan & burkas.

But all their national heroes were Genghis Khan (Temujin), Tamerlaine (Timur the Lame), Aleksandr Makedonskii (Alex the Great), and Josef Stalin. Tyrants and destroyers. And we liked to say that if the USSR were still around, every one of these lovelies would be some Soviet colonel’s b*tch.

Democracy? Rights of the individual? Never heard of those in Central Asia.


13 posted on 07/20/2012 10:09:07 PM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: rjbemsha

Hessl’s an idiot about history. Consistently wet weather might have produced rain for the Mongol horseherds, but it would have played hob with the Mongols’ principal weapon - the recurve bow. Mongol bows were made of wood, horn and other materials, held together by a glue made of fish . The glue was not waterproof, and neither were the strings for the bows.

And the Mongol capital wan’t moved to Beiging because of weather. Qublai Quan moved it there after defeating his brother Ariq Boka for the Supreme Quanship of the Mongol empire because: [1] Northern China was part of the Ulus granted him by his brother Mongke Qa Quan, [2] He was also the Emperor of China [at least the Chin part; and he was well on his way to conquering the Sung].


14 posted on 07/20/2012 10:22:21 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Where did you get this Ghengis Kahn's decedents ruled into the 20th century from?

I think he meant 19th century. The Moguls of India were, at least in theory, his descendants and they weren't kicked off the throne in India until the Mutiny of 1857. Though their rule had been pretty theoretical for quite some time by then.

Also pretty much all the Central Asian rulers down to their conquest by the Russians were his descendants.

About 8% of the population of a rather large area of Asia may be descended from him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_from_Genghis_Khan#DNA_evidence_-_The_Genghis_Khan_Effect

15 posted on 07/20/2012 10:28:49 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

I know...yet I stand by my statement.


16 posted on 07/20/2012 10:38:50 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Actually, looks like the Qing Emperors of China were all his descendants, with their empire lasting till 1910.

In fact the Japs put the last of this line in as the puppet ruler of Manchuria, which lasted till 1945.


17 posted on 07/20/2012 10:43:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: elcid1970

Uzbeks are an interesting people. They are basically Iranic peoples who became Turkified. Timurids wrecked their area, but he is loved?? The Iranic peoples of Uzbekistan were part of Bactria, which was a Hellenized kingdom after Iskandar.


18 posted on 07/20/2012 10:46:13 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Sherman Logan

His last direct descendant died in China in 1984, I believe.


19 posted on 07/20/2012 10:46:37 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Sherman Logan

Not so. the Quin were Manchus.


20 posted on 07/20/2012 10:48:37 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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