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Sand trains stir up dust in St. Paul neighborhood [Minnesotans afraid of sand]
Minneapolkis Star Tribune ^ | June 26, 2012 - 12:08 PM | CHAO XIONG

Posted on 06/26/2012 10:24:27 PM PDT by Hunton Peck

Residents are uneasy over potential health risks posed by silica.

Open train cars filled with sand have raised alarm in St. Paul's St. Anthony Park neighborhood, where some residents wonder if the silica that comprises 80 percent of the unprocessed sand is safe.

The cars, which often are parked in a rail yard sandwiched between homes and an industrial zone, are appearing on a more regular basis since an oil boom has increased the demand for the sand for its hydrofracking operations.

BNSF Railway Co., which transports the sand, and Minnesota Commercial Railway representatives said the trains are carrying wet "unprocessed raw sand" -- not pure frac sand -- and that it isn't a health risk. The concern, however, is that nearly all information about silica's health impact are derived from studies in the workplace, where it has been shown to cause cancer, and not of ambient exposure.

"We know it's [silica] not good for you," said Hillary Carpentar, a toxicologist with the Minnesota Department of Health. "It's a classic occupational toxin. I think the concern is that we just don't know" about casual exposure.

Hydrofracking has grown in recent years, spurring a frac sand gold rush in the Upper Midwest. Southeastern Minnesota and Wisconsin have become ideological and environmental battlegrounds....

Though railroad officials insist there is no health hazard, they, along with representatives of the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency will meet with residents Wednesday night.

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It's little comfort for people such as Jim Tittle, a St. Paul resident who shops in St. Anthony Park.

"The point isn't that we are certain that the dust will make people sick at this level of exposure," said Tittle, an activist who is making a documentary on the industry.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: energy; eremikophobes; fracking; minnesota; sand
It's a "documentary filmmaker" leading the hysteria on this one.

Anything to make America impoverished and energy-free.

Oh, and did I mention these people are nuts? Specifically, they're eremikophobes.

1 posted on 06/26/2012 10:24:33 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
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To: Hunton Peck

Sand?......

WE MUST EVACUATE THE ENTIRE STATE OF FLORIDA IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 06/26/2012 10:28:11 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Hunton Peck

And the Red Star Tribune is only too willing to assist in creating some sort of hysteria. It really grinds against the leftists that the Dakotas are providing a nice stream of American oil, and there are very few wing nuts locally to provide roadblocks.


3 posted on 06/26/2012 10:30:19 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: Hunton Peck

The title should be “Jim Tittle, a St. Paul activist and filmmaker complains about sand in rail cars.”


4 posted on 06/26/2012 10:35:54 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Red Badger

Oh, Horrors! The beaches are gonna cause us to get cancer! Where is BO and his Homeland Security bunch when you need them?


5 posted on 06/26/2012 10:43:14 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

And to imagine we buy sand for our children to play in!
We must band sand!.....For the children!!!!!!!!!!!


6 posted on 06/26/2012 10:52:03 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Hunton Peck

Even California allows sand.


7 posted on 06/26/2012 10:53:52 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP now goes for it's Presidential candidates.)
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To: Red Badger

Considering the lengths the environuts are going to in their attempts to restrict carbon dioxide emissions, banning sand doesn’t seem far-fetched at all. They can talk each other into believing anything.


8 posted on 06/26/2012 11:09:24 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (The patient is bleeding to death! Apply more leeches!)
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To: Hunton Peck

Insandity


9 posted on 06/26/2012 11:14:18 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Hunton Peck

A case could be made for just about anything being bad for humans. Drink too much water at one time and it will kill you!........


10 posted on 06/26/2012 11:20:12 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Red Badger

Second-hand sand exposure alert!


11 posted on 06/26/2012 11:24:21 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Red Badger

Ah, the dangers of dihydrogen oxide. Information long suppressed by Big Water...


12 posted on 06/26/2012 11:24:56 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (The patient is bleeding to death! Apply more leeches!)
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To: Hunton Peck
Read the comments under the article, they're crazier than the article, the first one even blames Bush and not in a sarcastic way.

WTH are they smoking up there?

13 posted on 06/26/2012 11:29:44 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: Kirkwood
"Second-hand sand exposure alert!"

I thought Charles Atlas found the cure for that decades ago!

14 posted on 06/26/2012 11:31:12 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (The patient is bleeding to death! Apply more leeches!)
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To: Hunton Peck
She was young and beautiful, but met her end from a lethal dose of silica.


15 posted on 06/26/2012 11:32:51 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: this_ol_patriot

Massachusetts and Cali both have their varieties of nut, but there’s a peculiar strain of liberal lunacy native to the Upper Midwest that’s not quite like anywhere else’s. I think it has something to do with the large number of Scandinavians.

I couldn’t make it through more than a few of the comments before developing an urge to bang my head against a wall.


16 posted on 06/26/2012 11:38:36 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (The patient is bleeding to death! Apply more leeches!)
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To: Kirkwood

Doesn’t silica turn to glass when exposed to that much hotness?

(And thanks)


17 posted on 06/26/2012 11:41:22 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (The patient is bleeding to death! Apply more leeches!)
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To: Hunton Peck

It has to be the lutefisk, what else would account for so many lye-ers?


18 posted on 06/26/2012 11:51:16 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: this_ol_patriot

That’s base, man...


19 posted on 06/26/2012 11:55:42 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (The patient is bleeding to death! Apply more leeches!)
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To: Hunton Peck

Silicosis is no laughing matter. Sandblasters, miners and such can really suffer from it if they don’t diligently use a good respirator around airborne rock dust. Sand passing by in a rail car seems unlikely to offer the same risk but I would not dismiss it out of hand.


20 posted on 06/27/2012 1:24:19 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Red Badger

My dad bought me a truck load of sand every year for my birthday when I was a kid. There was a little spring seep just above where he dumped it. Me and my siblings played for hours and hours and hours building, damming, destroying, and everything else you could do with a huge sand pile and a water source. Thanks Dad.


21 posted on 06/27/2012 1:31:48 AM PDT by onona (Of course you have to say is like George C. Scott....)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Woman reading emergency silica exposure manual.
Poor thing. She's obviously doomed.


22 posted on 06/27/2012 3:43:46 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: Hunton Peck

You absolutely cannot make this stuff up. I just hope these retards are not of Scandinavian descent.


23 posted on 06/27/2012 4:31:24 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: ccmay
Sand passing by in a rail car seems unlikely to offer the same risk but I would not dismiss it out of hand.

I would.

Do you think passing by in a rail car a few times a day comes anywhere close to the exposure of people living at the beach or in the desert?

24 posted on 06/27/2012 4:59:31 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Hunton Peck

Well, naturally-ocurring sand can get picked up by wind and blown around to where unsuspecting citizens breathe it in. So the answer is obvious - we must outlaw wind.


25 posted on 06/27/2012 5:27:40 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Red Badger

Send them all to Arizona, certainly there is no sand there.

The chicken little crowd (”the sky is falling, the sky is falling”) people will stop at nothing to stop what ever they are against.


26 posted on 06/27/2012 6:00:47 AM PDT by Progov
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To: ccmay

Big difference between wet natural sand grains and dry nano-sized dust. It is like comparing an elephant to a bacterium.


27 posted on 06/27/2012 6:29:05 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Kirkwood

It seems far-fetched to call silica a *toxin*. It is, actually, inert. However, dry silica dust is a lung irritant. However, this is wet sand, not silica dust.

We have a sandblaster. It is enclosed. It uses recoverable glass beads. It produces a fine glass dust. A mask is advised during use. We use sand in our pool filter. It is advisable to not refill the filter on an extremely windy day. Observation of beach sand shows that the dry particles normally rise a small amount and I cannot ever recall inhaling sand at the beach.

Put a tarp over the rail cars. Non-problem solved.


28 posted on 06/27/2012 6:50:43 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: 6SJ7

“Poor thing. She’s obviously doomed.”

She needs comforting in her last days, hours, moments...your chance to be a hero as you expose yourself to the deadly silicone dioxide hazards while aiding the poor doomed lass...


29 posted on 06/27/2012 8:42:22 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Kirkwood

Given the extreme dangers posed by sand, these grains should be removed VERY carefully, one by one if possible.

Can I do it??


30 posted on 06/28/2012 12:44:41 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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