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REPORT: MASSIVE MOODY'S BANK DOWNGRADES TO HIT IN A FEW MINUTES
Business Insider ^ | 06/21/2012 | Eric Platt

Posted on 06/21/2012 1:32:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Moody's Ratings is set to downgrade the world's largest banks at 4 p.m., according to new reports out of CNBC.

The network says sources tell it Citi, J.P. Morgan Chase, and Goldman Sachs will be hit with two notch downgrades. Bank of America is expected to be cut one notch by Moody's.

Morgan Stanley, which is also on the list of banks Moody's said it would take action against, is said to be downgraded as well.

Nine European banks are expected to be included in the downgrade, which earlier reports noted would include Barclay's, UBS, HSBC, Lloyd's, and RBS.

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bankdowngrades; banks; downgrade; moodys; wellsfargo

1 posted on 06/21/2012 1:32:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Not possible. I have it on good authority the private sector is doing fine.


2 posted on 06/21/2012 1:35:55 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Not possible. I have it on good authority the private sector is doing fine.

LOL!
3 posted on 06/21/2012 1:37:05 PM PDT by Signalman ( November, 2012-The End of an Error)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Anyone with significant European exposure is going to experience some pain.

As bad as things feel here, Europe is an absolute train wreck.


4 posted on 06/21/2012 1:38:18 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: VegasCowboy

I’m no financial guru but it sure seems to me like Cloward Piven got away from them and now the real hell is about to start.


5 posted on 06/21/2012 1:41:50 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: SeekAndFind

This has also happened Unexpectedly™....not.


6 posted on 06/21/2012 1:42:12 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Moody's Ratings is set to downgrade the world's largest banks at 4 p.m....

Executive bonuses to be distributed at 4:15 p.m....

7 posted on 06/21/2012 1:43:05 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

You sir win funniest comment of the day.


8 posted on 06/21/2012 1:45:56 PM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: SeekAndFind

Were whispers about this the reason the market cratered today?


9 posted on 06/21/2012 1:46:04 PM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Morgan Stanley finds itself with a three notch downgrade, it will be staring right in the face of a required $10 billion margin call. That’s 1/3 of their market cap. I love the smell of annihilation in the afternoon.


10 posted on 06/21/2012 1:46:23 PM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: SeekAndFind
From what I hear, JPM has derivative exposure in the trillions!!!
11 posted on 06/21/2012 1:49:18 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SeekAndFind

After the Market closed.


12 posted on 06/21/2012 1:49:53 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: therightliveswithus

Perhaps. But I so wish it wasn’t.


13 posted on 06/21/2012 1:51:07 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: SeekAndFind

More here on cnbc: http://www.cnbc.com/id/47903018


14 posted on 06/21/2012 1:53:00 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Norm Lenhart
Fox Business says as many as 17 Banks are going to be downgraded.

What was Obama's stress test that passed the Banks a fraud?

15 posted on 06/21/2012 1:53:00 PM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Yep. To paraphrase Margaret Thatcher, the European Socialists are about to run out of other people’s money.


16 posted on 06/21/2012 1:53:17 PM PDT by VegasCowboy ("...he wore his gun outside his pants, for all the honest world to feel.")
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To: SeekAndFind

The last time this happened the DJIA went up 490 points the next day.


17 posted on 06/21/2012 1:55:54 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: VegasCowboy

Don’t worry, we can always print more.


18 posted on 06/21/2012 1:55:54 PM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: scooby321

Hmmm...catalyst for a bank run?


19 posted on 06/21/2012 1:56:33 PM PDT by J. Worthington
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To: VegasCowboy

This is why the pressure is on Merkel to buy bonds from the PIGS. Private banks already are overloaded. Any write offs or default are going to kill them. And, given that we are part of a World Economy, it cannot be walled-off from the US economy.

As things have progressed the last four years it has become more and more clear that none of these authorities knows what to do. Just like in the early 1930s the monetary and financial institutions blindly move from one ineffectual policy to another. And political considerations prevent them from taking a course and sticking with it which might even work. But moving back and forth between prescriptions just makes the disease worse.


20 posted on 06/21/2012 1:58:04 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, it is 5 PM EDT, and there is no sign of these downgrades......yet.


21 posted on 06/21/2012 1:58:12 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: scooby321

In a way I’m kinda glad to see it. Perhaps this will further open the eyes of the ‘every problem has a racist cause’ crowd. Only pain seems to do that for them.

Fraud? Oh I totally believe that. The stress tests (snicker) were just words for public consumption. Pretty much like everything out of the Dem/Socialists/Communists mouths. But now they are stuck.

Chickens roosting and all that. I am not happy for the people about to get it in the shorts, but to me, anyone with sense would have exited the market a LONG time ago.

But play with fire...and get burned.


22 posted on 06/21/2012 2:01:15 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Very true


23 posted on 06/21/2012 2:01:58 PM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: SeekAndFind

Doesn’t seem to affect Wells Fargo. REIT’s took a hit.


24 posted on 06/21/2012 2:05:38 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: FrogMom

—Were whispers about this the reason the market cratered today?—

HAHAHA!

Duh.

;-)

I confess I had to go back to my.yahoo to see what happened today. I don’t believe in coincidences regarding things like this. No insider trading though, Nope, nope, nope.


25 posted on 06/21/2012 2:07:31 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We’ve been throwing away millions, and billions, and trillions for so long.... “They” have us ordinaries thinking there is a bottomless pit of millions, and billions, and trillions, somewhere!
MAYBE, if we could actually see SOMEBODY actually crash and burn, we ordinaries could get perspective on what’s happening, some real life connection or sense of actual worth of these vast amounts of dollars.
None of us could play these games with a few thousand dollars, and not be in jail.


26 posted on 06/21/2012 2:08:51 PM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: FrogMom

Silver’s tanking too. I wonder if this is another rush to the dollar sort of thing.


27 posted on 06/21/2012 2:09:00 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

Oil tanked as well.


28 posted on 06/21/2012 2:12:52 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yeah, now Moody's does this. Where were they in early 2008 when the exact same conclusions could have been drawn?
29 posted on 06/21/2012 2:17:43 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: scooby321

Not to worry, this will not be released until the Friday evening bad news dump.


30 posted on 06/21/2012 2:22:09 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (A man with his feet hacked off tends not to scurry far. - Norse proverb)
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To: SeekAndFind

Morgan Stanley cut two notches.

Bank of America down one notch.

Citigroup cut two notches

Goldman Sachs down two notches


31 posted on 06/21/2012 2:26:39 PM PDT by exit82
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To: SeekAndFind

32 posted on 06/21/2012 2:27:09 PM PDT by CodeToad (Homosexuals are homophobes. They insist on being called 'gay' instead.)
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To: exit82

Morgan Stanley cut two notches to Baa1 from A1.

Bank of America cut to Baa2, outlook negative.

Citi cut to Baa2.

JP Morgan cut two notches to A2 from AA3.

Credit Suisse cut three.

Goldman cut to A3.

HSBC cut to AA3 from AA2, one notch.

UBS cut two notches.

RBS cut cut to Baa1 from A3.

BNP cut to A2, outlook negative.


33 posted on 06/21/2012 2:28:57 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: exit82

Here is something worth noting: ONLY WELLS FARGO WAS LEFT UNTOUCHED !!


34 posted on 06/21/2012 2:38:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind
Here is something worth noting: ONLY WELLS FARGO WAS LEFT UNTOUCHED !!

That's 'cause they felt sorry for the,m--still rifding around in a stagecoach and all.....;)

35 posted on 06/21/2012 2:44:16 PM PDT by exit82
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To: djf

Thanks for the full report—couldn’t type fast enough as it was coming on CNBC.


36 posted on 06/21/2012 2:45:40 PM PDT by exit82
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To: exit82
Headline: Zombie Banks cut down
37 posted on 06/21/2012 2:50:14 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: djf
MOODY'S DOWNGRADES GLOBAL BANKS
38 posted on 06/21/2012 2:54:57 PM PDT by blam
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To: exit82; All

I thought BOA had already filed some reorganization plan or had some other restructuring effort going on...


39 posted on 06/21/2012 3:00:39 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Here is something worth noting: ONLY WELLS FARGO WAS LEFT UNTOUCHED !!"

Not exactly true.

Lehman Brothers untouched also. ;)

40 posted on 06/21/2012 3:06:41 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: blam
Business Insider adding this graphic is hardly reassuring:


41 posted on 06/21/2012 3:25:50 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: randog
Executive bonuses to be distributed at 4:15 p.m....

How can this be? Aren't the big banks run by the best and brightest the world has to offer?

Isn't this why they are paid the BIG, BIG bucks?

42 posted on 06/21/2012 6:12:38 PM PDT by dearolddad
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To: cuban leaf

I hope silver tanks HARD, I want to buy another 300 ounces.


43 posted on 06/21/2012 10:47:54 PM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: cuban leaf

Just went and looked. Both gold and silver were down, but not a lot by the time all the commodity trading was done.


44 posted on 06/21/2012 10:51:26 PM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: FrogMom

—I hope silver tanks HARD, I want to buy another 300 ounces.—

Exactly!


45 posted on 06/22/2012 4:35:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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