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Russian marines deployed to Syria: What are their intentions?
U.S. Naval Institute ^ | 6/18/12 | Mark Adomanis

Posted on 06/19/2012 9:37:12 AM PDT by Saint X

The announcement of two Russian amphibious warships bound for Syria is strange. Not because the Russians are above meddling in a conflict zone or are committed to the principle of non-interference. But because deploying ships and marines represents an escalation in the Syrian conflict — an escalation the Russians have expressly avoided. On the same day news first broke about the deployment of Russian warships, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, totally in line with its previous position, announced that it was seeking the early resumption of the UN mission in Syria.

With conflicting messages coming from different parts of the Russian government, it’s unclear what precisely Russian intentions actually are.

One possibility is that the Russian Ministry of Defense was victorious in an internal bureaucratic struggle against the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. The Russian Defense Ministry convinced Russian president Vladimir Putin and the political leadership that it was time for Russia to stop dithering and draw a line in the sand. Under this scenario Russia will under no circumstances accept Assad’s departure and that it will do everything in its power to ensure he survives, even if that involves committing small numbers of troops.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.usni.org ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: marines; russia; syria

1 posted on 06/19/2012 9:37:18 AM PDT by Saint X
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To: Saint X

The Russians have their own fingerprints on the
WMDs they moved from Iraq through Syria to the
Bekka and elsewhere.


2 posted on 06/19/2012 9:40:25 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Saint X

The Russians are well within their rights to defend their interests at their naval base in Syria and they’re also well within their rights to stand with their ally. It is NATO and the UN that need to keep out of Syria. We have no justifiable reason to get involved there and I cannot believe how many people want the US to attack Syria.


3 posted on 06/19/2012 9:42:04 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: Saint X

Let the Russians do the job of eliminating Muzzies.

Thanks to Obamadorkface, we certainly are not.


4 posted on 06/19/2012 9:45:50 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Saint X

Let the Russians do the job of eliminating Muzzies.

Thanks to Obamadorkface, we certainly are not.


5 posted on 06/19/2012 9:45:53 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: MeganC

As far as I’m concerned we should pull out of the mideast with the exception of surrounding Israel with a ring of steel if they want it.


6 posted on 06/19/2012 9:46:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Saint X

The have a port there!


7 posted on 06/19/2012 9:48:46 AM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Saint X
Obama has been playing with the Middle East...and with our help and our money, the Muslim ba****** have an even stronger foothold.

Russia is fed up with Obama and isn't waiting until after Obama's unelection.

8 posted on 06/19/2012 9:57:22 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: MeganC
Syria has abetted and given sanctuary to terrorists who have attacked Americans in Iraq, and who have attacked our ally in Israel. Syria is one of the chief allies of the principle supporter of terror in the whole world, Iran, a nation that has expressely stated that it desires the destruction of the US.

You bet we have serious interests in what goes on in Syria.

The best thing that could happen would be for the dictator there to fall to forces committed to a secular Republic and basic civil rights for all of its citizens. That is what we should have been seeking out and supporting this entire time...long before Russia ever sent these forces towards the area.

Such an outcome would have been a stab in the heart to Iran, and would have allieviated significant tnesions towards Lebannon, Israel and Iraq.

But now, we are left standing around with our hands in our pockets as the Russians move to bolster all of those things I just mentioned, which they view as in their interests to distract and to tie up our resources and that of our allies...and to bleed us whenever they can.

Obama is not interested in the US best interests. He has shown and is showing that he in fact supports the radical Ilsamics and will assist their rise to power wherever it happens and he can be involved.

He is doing so blatanlty now in Egypt, where it was obvious that the overthrow of our friend and ally, a man who was indeed brutal, but who held the peace with Israel for over 25 years, and who protected the Christian minorities in his nation, while coming down hard on the radical Islamics...as I say, it was obvious that that overthrow would lead to the Muslim Bortherhood trying to step into the vaccum, which they have done. Now, this weekend the Egyptian military has moved to forestall and end that attempt by these radicals, and has announced the disolving of the parliment and new elections. Obama responded to that by demanding that the Military turn power over to the ISlamic fundamentalists.

Anyhow, we do have interests, significant interests, in seeing Syria free...but not in seeing it go as another radical, fundamentalist Islamic state that stays in bed with Iran.

OBAMA ADMINISTRATION INFILTRATED BY MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

That's the real stroy behind the Arab "Spring," and Obama's involvement in it.

9 posted on 06/19/2012 9:59:15 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Zero is feigning weakness, again...very clever.


10 posted on 06/19/2012 10:01:51 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: MeganC
I cannot believe how many people want the US to attack Syria.

But what harm could it do?


11 posted on 06/19/2012 10:06:00 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.- H. L. Mencken)
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To: MeganC

“people want the US to attack Syria”!
I want the U.S. to simultaniously nuke Tehran, Damacus, Mecca, Medina and Alexandria, so yeah I guess that could be considered “attacking”.


12 posted on 06/19/2012 10:06:25 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Saint X

intentions
?
FRIENDLY


13 posted on 06/19/2012 10:17:19 AM PDT by traumer
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To: Saint X

“Tank transport ships”?......maybe they’re bringing back some Syrian tanks that were in Russia for their 3000 mile oil change.


14 posted on 06/19/2012 10:17:19 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Saint X
Russia is trying to insure the survival of the Assad regime. I don't think they are worried the U.S. will attack - they are probably more concerned Israel will attack. If Israel can knock out Syria's air capabilities, it makes a MUCH shorter flight to Tehran.

The Russians also know what is buried in the Bekkaa Valley and are not anxious for it see the light of day, publically.

Remember, last week the Russians essentially fired a warning shot over Israel's bow:

http://www.jpost.com/NationalNews/Article.aspx?id=273156

15 posted on 06/19/2012 10:19:00 AM PDT by In Maryland (Liberal logic - the ultimate oxymoron!)
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To: Joe Boucher

Where do I sign?


16 posted on 06/19/2012 10:38:49 AM PDT by clbiel (Islamophobia: The irrational fear of being decapitated)
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To: Jeff Head
>"Obama responded to that by demanding that the Military turn power over to the ISlamic fundamentalists. "

Was he speaking of Egypt, the USA, or both?

17 posted on 06/19/2012 11:19:00 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Saint X

Somehow I fear Russia will come to regret this.


18 posted on 06/19/2012 11:47:25 AM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Great book. I read it many years ago. If you haven’t, you should... Thanks for posting.


19 posted on 06/19/2012 12:09:06 PM PDT by HeadOn (With my last breath, I will pull the lever against the liberals. NEVER GIVE UP.)
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To: Jeff Head

You cannot fault the Russians for trying to prevent Obama from doing to Syria what he claims he did in Egypt or Libya. The outcomes for those two Arab springs were horrendous for the regions stability. Russia and China will be going all in and Obama and Hillary are both idiot DINO’s. Remember that the RINO McCain supported the Libyan NATO involvement. This is RINO/DINO fighting the Russian/Chinese (Eastern Axis) for control of Middle Eastern Oil. And we are on the idiotic side with those two leading us. Guaranteed abject failure.


20 posted on 06/19/2012 1:43:12 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Jeff Head; MeganC

>>>>>The best thing that could happen would be for the dictator there to fall to forces committed to a secular Republic and basic civil rights for all of its citizens. That is what we should have been seeking out and supporting this entire time...long before Russia ever sent these forces towards the area.>>>>>>>

I’m sorry but the entire idea is plain stupid to say the least. Isn’t Lybia and Egypt an example to you? No free republic is ever possible in ME in a lifetime and probably in a next 500 years. Iraq and Afghanistan will fall next day after US withdrawal. An alternative to Assad and other ousted secular dictators in the region is a huge caliphate from Africa to Caucasus with nuclear weapons and manpower of hundreds million people ruled by people who organized nine eleven.


21 posted on 06/19/2012 6:10:49 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Saint X
Russian marines deployed to Syria: What are their intentions?

Find an ice cream kiosk and chat with pretty girls!

22 posted on 06/28/2012 1:08:38 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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