Posted on 06/16/2012 5:41:04 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
Do you believe "progressive" is code language for "communist"?
A lot of people here do. "Yes, I agree with that question". Some don't. "No, a progressive is not a communist".
So then what say you about Mitt Romney, who has openly stated the very thing.(and his record shows the truth of his claim)
West's Communist Comments 'Referring to ... the Congressional Progressive Caucus'
YES- mittens is a commie just like hussein
Not to mention a gay rights champion and a gun grabber.
Neither of these culture of death weirdos are true Communists. Hussein is a Syndicalist. Willard is a Corporatist. Both are statists, as are both parties.
That's the record. Anything else beyond that is wishful thinking.
Much like Obama, we can argue all day over how to classify Romney. I don’t give a wit about his rhetoric because his record tells me he’s an immoral lying statist of one stripe or another, so he won’t get my vote.
That said, I’m not sure we know who Romney really is or what he really believes about anything. My theory is that his entire life has been about garnering power to the ultimate glory of the LDS church. I think he set out to make a lot of money to position himself for politics. For Myth, the White House was always in view. He took whatever position he believed necessary for political advantage, not out of principle.
Are you working to get Obama re-elected?
He is an connected elite. He has ties to the men behind the curtain. He will take America down the path to their hands of the NWO just like the past 4 Presidents. They are all tied to the same people. They work for them and not for us.
Maybe, but not half as much as Obama.
On one hand, we have Bishop Willard from Planet Kolob.
On the other, the illegitimate, bisexual, Marxist Kenyan Muslim Usurper.
Both appoint activist judges, both support the Lavendar Mafia, both grab guns, both support the murder of babies, both want socialized medicine.
"Republicans vs. Democrats: Maybe A Dime's Worth Of Difference"
~ Larry Elder, "The Ten Things You Can't Say In America"
I want to defend Mitt Romney.
HE is not a Communist.
I wouldn’t go so far as to call him a marxist but its only a matter of degree. He’s a global socialist who is picking up a lot of Bammy’s marxist support.
Anyone who thinks Romney is now a conservative, after his remarks yesterday on IL Duce’s dictatorial edict, is a fool.
that's how he got the bad rap, with his statements during the gubernatorial race in Mass-of-2-$h!t$.
truth be known, we wont know the truth until after he gets elected.
but considering what we have now, I am all for him....we cant have 4 more years of a KNOWN marxist who is a lame duck.....
Correct and we are so screwed....
Correct and we are so screwed....
Are you on an anti-Mittens roll this morning?
(yes)
Having said what I said he’s not a commie or socialist, he’s a NWO guy like most of them.
A little actual knowledge goes a long way. Words have meanings.
Never thought id say this, but id vote Chuck E Cheese over Obama. Obama makes Carter look like a saint.
Are you working to get Obama re-elected?
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Not voting for the candidate opposing Obama OR voting for a third-party candidate in the upcoming election...results in exactly that. Anyone with functioning grey matter ought to understand that.
Progressive is the 1920s expression the communist agenda used to avoid being called socialist or communist. Progressives, once exposed, replaced pogressive with the word liberal.
Obama's socialist agenda for America exposed the liberal agenda of his enablers and they began to seek refuge under the progressive label.
It is time to reconsider your political position when you find yourself to ashamed to admit the label your political position caused.
You think it is cool to say the most outrageous things about the legitimately elected nominee, Mitt Romney because our top patriot, Jim Robinson, is opposed to him. I think good scrutiny is a good thing, which is what is being encouraged. However, I do not like unsupported comments out of the ballpark.
For crying out loud. No.
Next question...
This is no time to desert our champion, no matter how flawed.
We have the choice between a new election in four years or an new election when Obama dies.
Your choice, mes ami's.
I’m prepared to come to grips with the simple fact that I’m voting against a Marxist, Communist who doesn’t know anything else, has never believed anything else, and never been indoctrinated into anything else. That isn’t Mitt. Mitt, at least, has an understanding of the private sector, how it works, what it needs, of its importance, not so Obama. While compromised by progressive drivel and PC, Mitt knows there’s another world out there, and he knows he has to play in that world now to be successful. Mitt can work with a Republican House and Senate, one that is trending conservative. Obama can’t, and he won’t, not that we will have to worry about it after January. Then we will have to worry about Mitt, and I’ll breath a sigh of relief. We’ll have someone who loves America back in the White House. For certain he won’t be the ideal, conservative choice, but we might get surprised. We might see some pro growth tax policies. We will see Janet Napolitano and Eric Holder out of government, and all of Obama’s commie, anti American friends with them. I bet we see some pretty conservative people taking some of their places. We will probably see some pro drilling, pro oil, pro energy for America policies, and quickly. Yeah Romney’s PC, but he knows what fills the tanks of America’s cars, and unlike Obama, he cares about something besides his own tank. In fact, for me, there is no choice. When it comes to Romney, I would rather go with just about any of the above, but they aren’t there. So yeah, I get the games. Is Romney a commie because he has been a progressive like Nixon, or like Bush with his “kinder, gentler America? It’s okay with me if you think so, but he sure as hell isn’t a commie like Obama. Sometimes I wonder if the biggest fear some conservatives have about Romney is if he will turn out to be a good, successful president, who is good for America. What a horror that would be. But I’m willing to risk it. He is better than Obama, and that is the only choice on the table, like it or not.
I agree that Mutt isn’t a communist but what is the difference between a corporatist and a fascist.
No
There is a great difference between “not being a pure conservative” and “being communist.”
I DO believe that Obama is a Marxist. Romney is not fully conservative....but he is not Marxist.
I don’t think that either is a communist, but I believe both are far more socialistic and liberal than most Americans.
I'd like to point out that this term has a specific meaning which usually gets lost in modern use of the word.
Today we tend to think of it as meaning government by business coporations. But that's not what it means.
Corporatism was a branch of government theory in the late 19th and early 20th that was generally conservative (in the European sense) in origin. It was heavily promoted by the Catholic Church.
It referred to government by "corporations," which is derived from Latin for body and did not mean business corporations, but rather to groups of people organized more or less by occupation rather than locality. Labor unions, farmer's groups, business groups, professional organizations, etc.
It was an attempt to reject both socialism and its theory of class conflict and the American idea of representative democracy. A "Third Way." It was later adopted in theory by various fascists, especially Mussolini, but not much put into actual practice by them.
When corporatism started, the modern business corporation, which has become so dominant, played no such powerful role in society. So when the term is used today it is usually misused to mean government dominated by big business.
I'm just proposing the term be used carefully and properly, rather than sloppily to mean anything other than a government hostile to business.
Here’s a question for you, Halfie:
Would you prefer 25-years-to-life or the death sentence?
See 31.
Some fascists were corporatists, but not all by any means. And not all corporatists were fascists.
Corporatism was essentially a (European) conservative attempt to find a "Third Way" between Anglo-American capitalism and representative democracy and Marxist socialism. Though it also had liberal (approximately in the modern American sense of the word) and even anarchist strains.
It never really worked out.
Wiki actually has a pretty good article on the subject.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism
-—————Would you prefer 25-years-to-life or the death sentence?-—————
Your question rests upon a false premise.
There’s not a thing in Romney’s record worth defending. He really literally is Obama white.
So “do I prefer a death sentence or a death sentence” is the real question.
Have you even examined Romney’s record? It’s not as if his comment about having progressive viewpoints is vapid and baseless. It’s highly substantive.
In before the bear on a toilet pictures.
I think you have pretty much synthesized the bad chemistry masguerading as intelligence from the few who claim to know everything there is to know about Mitt Romney and are willing accomplices in selling the country short for the oh so principled non vote in favor of something they know so little about. Mitt Romney certainly wasn’t my first choice. The Statist Newt Gingrich was, but that is past history, no pun intended.
Hey, if he turns out to be everything everyone is laying on him, but he gets rid of Obama care, and passes a budget that is closer to being balanced the the lying effing you know what that occupies the WHITE house now, I’d say he was an unqualified success in comparison.
Is ‘progressive’ a code word for communist? You betcha!!!
Whether ZERO is re-elected, or Romney is elected, it’s a win for progressives.
By a majority vote, Republicans have chosen a progressive as their nominee. So, does this suggest the majority of Republicans are progressives?
Sort of, but he's not been particularly trustworthy so he needs to be constantly pressured. And yes, he will do some things we hate.
On the other hand, Bambi will do everything we hate, and continue to thumb his nose at the law, and everything that is good, driving this country into an abyss.
It's a no brainer, throw Bambi and his minions out, get as many conservatives elected, help the GOP take the senate, and then keep the pressure up, keep their feet to the fire.
http://chicksontheright.com/2012/03/30/holy-crap-bill-whittle-is-furious/
And just in case you are wondering, I was a Rick Perry supporter, a Herman Cain supporter and then a Newt supporter. I will be voting for Romney to help rid our country of Obama!
People who think there’s no difference between 0bama and Romney really ought to have their heads examined. Yeah, I wish we could clone Ronald Reagan every 8 years, and I wish we had a more conservative nominee.
However, the current primary system has given us Romney. You don’t have to like it, but let’s take a look at what’s at stake. This country is not going to survive four more years of 0bama. Dictatorial tricks like this back-door amnesty crap he pulled yesterday will only lead to more executive decisions and recess appointments.
We have to get the vote out, not just for Romney, but for conservatives running for the Senate and the House. Electing conservatives to Congress is essential to either keep Romney on the right side of the issues, or, God forbid in case of a 2nd 0bama term, limit the damage as much as possible. For that, we need the Senate and maintain majority in the House.
Up next is the Primary process itself. We can all whine and moan about how the media elected our nominee and blah blah blah. I’m yet to hear about people taking action and re-taking control of the GOP. If it’s one thing I’ve learned from 0bama is that if you want to change things, you can’t just hope for it. You have to take action.
There’s not a thing in Romney’s record worth defending. He really literally is Obama white.
Certain nomination as the most ridiculous unjustified and undocumented comment of the month.
How about two for the road. He isn’t a champion of Jeremiah Wright, and he is a true blue American. His birthplace isn’t in doubt either just for one more.
So will I. It is CRUCIAL to win this election!!!!!!!!!!
While your post is probably the most in touch with reality, I am stopping at your post and will read no further. Sadly, We The People failed to do our sovereignty duties in the venue most in need of our oversight, the Republican Party. So we get scammed by the globalists selections placed at the forefront of that party by mouthing our values but when elected they do the values and work the strategy of the globalist behind the curtains. This election my only real question is can we forestall the final collapse little barry bastard commie was installed to accomplish and buy the time to change the republican party back toward a conservative profile. This election is sure not going to be one where turnout is driven by folks wanting to vote for a candidate at the top, so it will be an excellent reflection of whether the sovereinbgs of this dying Republic are interested in saving it by turning out in record numbers to install down ticket conservatives to turn the republican party around. If We The People do not turnout to change the party leadership then all that will be left is lock and load. Too many appear to want to jump ahead to the final stage without making one last effort. It is looking more and more like the globalist do not want Milt Rominy to become president because it just may be that he is not one of theirs. We shall see
Oh great - another obamabot spamming the board.
Nope.
Romney a bottom feeding lying piece of garbage and my opinion of him is one he earned all by himself.
He’ll have to rely on liberals to take up the slack.
PERIOD
No, he's a lying NWO socialist with a tinge of psychopathy. That is, he's another Soros puppet.
——————I believe people have the ability to change.-——————
I do too.
Romney has not demonstrated it.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2895911/posts
He simply refuses to defend America.
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