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The more science you know, the less worried you are about climate
The Register ^ | 29th May 2012 12:04 GMT | Lewis Page

Posted on 06/04/2012 9:22:37 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: faucetman
Even Kevin Cosner’s, of Waterworld fame, invention proved inadequate to deal with the problem. Oil kept flowing, and man kept failing.

Did they ever let Costner put his machine in the water? (actually not his invention he was just an investor) I recall that when he first showed up the FedMob put roadblock after roadblock in his way even though he was going to pay for the whole thing. Just like the FedMob rejected a fleet of the world's most effective oil skimmers from Europe because they didn't belong to a U.S. union. (the Netherlands specifically IIRC)

21 posted on 06/04/2012 10:46:43 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The soft-studies profs were amazed, however, to find that as one moves up the scale of [hard] science knowledge and numeracy, people become more sceptical, not less.

So the folks who deal in real projects with physically demonstrable results don't believe the charlatans who are blowing smoke with theories having little connection to reality. I can buy that!

22 posted on 06/04/2012 10:51:52 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
How much education does one need to read a couple of charts like this and realize that man-made Glowbull Warming is the biggest bunch of horse hockey that ever came down the pike?

Claim That Sea Level Is Rising Is a Total Fraud

Sea levels began to rise 18k years ago at the end of the last glacial period. They have risen about 135 meters since then which is an average of 7.5 millimeters per year. That is an average of 750 mm per century (29.5 inches) which is far more than the average over the last century.


23 posted on 06/04/2012 11:02:18 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: brityank

By jove I think you’ve got it! ;^)


24 posted on 06/04/2012 11:04:56 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: brityank

Our goobermint’s answer to this will to be:
deny grants,loans or scholarships for hard sciences students and increase those for women’s studies students.


25 posted on 06/04/2012 11:07:11 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
RE: "Well...now what?"
Al Gore must feel crushed. :)
26 posted on 06/04/2012 1:34:37 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: TigersEye

Back later to study the charts.....thanks.


27 posted on 06/04/2012 5:28:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m sure you’ve seen them a hundred times. Just some basic temp and sea level history. Which makes the idea of runaway temps and catastrophic sea level rise look ridiculous but nothing new or extraordinary.


28 posted on 06/04/2012 9:15:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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29 posted on 06/06/2012 12:52:28 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Didn’t Al Gore get a ‘D’ in the only science class he took?


30 posted on 06/06/2012 1:50:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (Take your little hammer, little sickle and your scary red signs with a fist on it, and go home...)
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To: The Great RJ

Thanks for that.....may need to do a thread for the Californians ....course the powers here are rapidly changing from GW to say CO2 is instrumental in pollution...there is a thread on what the California Air Resources Board is doing propaganda wise.


31 posted on 06/06/2012 2:21:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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RE: "Didn’t Al Gore get a ‘D’ in the only science class he took?"
I believe I had read that somewhere a few years back as well.
32 posted on 06/06/2012 2:42:40 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Marine_Uncle; GOPJ

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2000/mar/25/20000325-011032-8259r/ excerpts:

Last Sunday, The Washington Post reproduced Mr. Gore’s Harvard transcript as well as his grades and scores at the elite St. Albans high school and later at Vanderbilt University’s divinity and law schools. In a word, the transcripts reveal that Mr. Gore’s post-secondary academic performance was rather dismal, particularly in the field of science.

In introductory economics, the only economics course Mr. Gore ever took, he received a C-

As a Harvard sophomore, scholar Al “earned” a D in Natural Sciences 6 in a course presciently named “Man’s Place in Nature.” That was the year he evidently spent more time smoking cannabis than studying its place among other plants within the ecosystem. His senior year, Mr. Gore received a C+ in Natural Sciences 118.

At Vanderbilt divinity school, Mr. Gore took a course in theology and natural science. The assigned readings included the apocalyptic, and widely discredited “Limits to Growth,” which formed much of the foundation for “Earth in the Balance.” It is said that Mr. Gore failed to hand in his book report on time. Thus, his incomplete grade turned into an F, one of five Fs Mr. Gore received at divinity school, which may well be a worldwide record.

In ... “Inventing Al Gore,” Newsweek correspondent Bill Turque writes that Mr. Gore’s “moribund academic career suddenly gained new energy and direction” at the beginning of his junior year in the fall of 1967. “The English student who plodded through Chaucer and pulled a string of Cs started getting As and Bs, and his academic program began to look more like a preparation for public life.” But as Mr. Turque also notes, it was at the beginning of Mr. Gore’s junior year that “the [Vietnam] War’s shadow lengthened.”

This is when grade inflation really took off. Not only had the Johnson administration announced an end to graduate school deferments, but the U.S. military presence in Vietnam had dramatically increased, reaching nearly 500,000 troops compared to 23,000 in early 1965. Flunking out of undergraduate school meant a visit to the local draft board. Rabidly anti-war professors, who dominated political science faculties across the nation, began handing out Cs for breathing, thus ratcheting-up the entire grading scale. This surely explains part of Mr. Gore’s academic improvement.

Mr. Gore’s high point of academic achievement at Harvard was his 99-page senior thesis, “The Impact of Television on the Conduct of the Presidency, 1947-1969,” which so impressed his father, then a liberal senator from Tennessee whom voters ousted from office the next year, that he sent it to the Nixon White House.

Presciently and ironically, in his thesis Mr. Gore used as his case study the evolution of the presidential news conference. ... Why prescient and ironic? Because Mr. Gore seems to have learned nothing from his own thesis. Recall the news conference disaster over which he presided when he attempted to legitimize his fund-raising calls from his White House office by declaring not once, but seven times that “no controlling legal authority” had barred him from making those calls. Then again, what would one expect from a law school drop-out who once achieved a D-level grade of 69 in Civil Procedure II?


To be fair, I believe Mister Gore has since read and absorbed several articles about global warming “science” posted on Wikipedia.


33 posted on 06/06/2012 8:38:11 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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It is said that Mr. Gore failed to hand in his book report on time. Thus, his incomplete grade turned into an F, one of five Fs Mr. Gore received at divinity school, which may well be a worldwide record.

Divinity school must be very forgiving....

34 posted on 06/06/2012 9:36:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (Take your little hammer, little sickle and your scary red signs with a fist on it, and go home...)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Thanks for his profile.


35 posted on 06/06/2012 9:54:17 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The reporter refers to "soft" science, but in fact this isn't really science at all. "Hard" scientists are concerned with what is truth; "soft" scientists in this sense are concerned with how best to influence people's thinking. The latter is actually rhetoric, not science, even if its methods appear to be scientific.

The intention of the study was not, in fact, to measure the relationship between mathematical and logical ability and a conviction that AGW is truth, it was to produce a document that is designed to suppress dissent on the topic by implying that dissenters are less intelligent than true believers. It failed because the only science in it wouldn't cooperate.

It also failed because those who are relatively numerate recognize this affair for the con game it is and tend to be less swayed by "consensus" in the non-consensual mechanism that is science. One and one is not three no matter how earnestly the rhetoricians insist that it would be beneficial to society to pretend that it is, and the skeptic may well be ridiculed for insisting otherwise but he will not be wrong.

36 posted on 06/06/2012 10:04:41 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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“I don’t do paper”

If you believe that CO2 is a problem, then there is a good argument that paper and such should be buried in landfills, thereby sequestering the carbon it contains. Of course, in reality recycling is not as much about conserving resources as it is about performing a daily ritual which affirms deep green environmentalism. In short, brainwashing.


37 posted on 06/07/2012 1:43:54 PM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: beef

Same with “bio degradable” bottles. They don’t degrade b/c they need sunlight to do so.


38 posted on 06/07/2012 4:51:13 PM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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