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“My son screamed for his mother for what seemed like an eternity”
Reason ^ | May 20, 2012 | Mike Riggs

Posted on 05/21/2012 7:31:52 AM PDT by Altariel

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To: Altariel

Apparently the logic is that if a pipe is not available, a drug user will quit.

Sure


41 posted on 05/21/2012 8:26:31 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: cloudmountain
Why would ANY parent of children under 18 be STUPID enough to get involved in the drug trade, even legally selling the paraphernalia?

They know the risk going in when they operate on the fringes. The mindset of people today is even if they break the laws ultimately they will get a slap on the hands at worst....which is generally quite true.

As for their children....well it's apparent were they serious about their welfare they would not be involved with such a "business" in the first place.

42 posted on 05/21/2012 8:27:28 AM PDT by caww
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To: Altariel

Ah, those compassionate Democrat DOJ's.

43 posted on 05/21/2012 8:30:12 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: caww
1. They know the risk going in when they operate on the fringes. The mindset of people today is even if they break the laws ultimately they will get a slap on the hands at worst....which is generally quite true.
As for their children....well it's apparent were they serious about their welfare they would not be involved with such a "business" in the first place.

1. True.
2. True again.

44 posted on 05/21/2012 8:31:44 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Altariel

Kid will have nightmares and PTSD for the rest of his life, presaging a life of substance abuse and fear of authority. Nice work, DOJ.

BTW, what are the chances these head shop owners are Republicans?


45 posted on 05/21/2012 8:32:23 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: formosa

That’s kind of simplistic thinking. The more they interdict, the higher they drive up the price of the product that does make it through, which just increases the incentive to find new ways of getting it across the border. Not to mention the steadily increasing domestic crop that doesn’t have to cross the border.

As long as people demand the product, and a profit can be made supplying it, it will get through. That’s just basic economics.


46 posted on 05/21/2012 8:35:22 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: FreedomPoster

“but not something similar for MJ?”

Originally, cannabis was not banned, but they put a 200/oz tax on it. Which in 1934 or whenever, was most of a year’s pay.

Since it was not banned per se, no need to amend the Constitution. The “tax” issue morphed into a ban.


47 posted on 05/21/2012 8:39:11 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: caww

Of course, the ends justify the means, don’t they? And if one of the weapons “accidentally” discharged, killing one of the children, well, you’d justify that too, wouldn’t you?

The State must be defended! No atrocity is too great when the State is conducting the Business of the Punishment of Criminals, Comrade!


48 posted on 05/21/2012 8:41:11 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: DBrow

Back in the day, I saw college kids clearing a bong three feet long. Their poor lungs!


49 posted on 05/21/2012 8:41:11 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ConservaTexan

The caption at the photo at the article said it was Wendy J. Olson.

http://reason.com/blog/2012/05/20/a-report-from-obamas-humane-drug-war-my

Here’s your babe independently confirmed:

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1132&bih=635&tbm=isch&tbnid=Rdrus2zTcNO2aM:&imgrefurl=http://www.justice.gov/usao/id/meetattorney.html&docid=oGu9jVi-cAU0XM&imgurl=http://www.justice.gov/usao/id/images/wolsonofficial.jpg&w=200&h=300&ei=W2K6T4blHIGC2AXs57XXCQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=388&sig=108306833938050979212&page=1&tbnh=140&tbnw=93&start=0&ndsp=17&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:75&tx=56&ty=69


50 posted on 05/21/2012 8:42:42 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Albion Wilde

Both kids will; the 12 year old will have much more vivid and concrete memories than her brother.

Neither child will likely trust a law enforcement officer for their entire lives.

When the State finally gets around to terrorizing the children of law abiding gun owners, dog owners, truck owners, butter consumers, bacon consumers, etc. (all in the name of our Health and Safety), it will be too late for those here today who are justifying this now.

For there will be no one to speak for them, because they did not first speak up on behalf of others.

Sadly, some Freepers here will gladly kiss the boots of the State when that day comes, and encourage their children to do the same.


51 posted on 05/21/2012 8:45:48 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

If one of the children were injured then yes, I would blame the parents for putting their children in that situation by the choices they made to ride the fence they chose.

You play with fire you and are yours are more than likely to eventually get burned. That’s the risk and they chose that path.


52 posted on 05/21/2012 8:46:33 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww; cloudmountain
Why would ANY parent of children under 18 be STUPID enough to get involved in the drug trade, even legally selling the paraphernalia?

They know the risk going in when they operate on the fringes. The mindset of people today is even if they break the laws ultimately they will get a slap on the hands at worst....which is generally quite true.

As for their children....well it's apparent were they serious about their welfare they would not be involved with such a "business" in the first place.

You might find these words cold comfort when they come for the guns. Or when those gun dealers you depend on find that even though they are selling a "legal" product that the law is no longer a factor, there is only power.

In most parts of this country the Second Amendment is regarded as merely advisory. I hope you don't find this out the hard way.

53 posted on 05/21/2012 8:46:59 AM PDT by Mycroft Holmes (<= Mash name for HTML Xampp PHP C JavaScript primer. Programming for everyone.)
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To: caww

Butch and Hussein have some ‘splainin’ to do.


54 posted on 05/21/2012 8:47:29 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

How about we say it like this: A justice tactic of which Vlad Tepes would approve?


55 posted on 05/21/2012 8:47:51 AM PDT by Waywardson (If you fear Obama..... vote for Romney. If you fear God... DON'T !)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Google a picture of Dean Graziosi to see the resemblence.


56 posted on 05/21/2012 8:47:58 AM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Altariel

Again....you play with fire you risk being burned....the kids were put in harms way ‘by the parents’ choices. The state didn’t “terrorize the children”...the parents are responsible for this entire situation ...and all the scars which will come from it.


57 posted on 05/21/2012 8:50:39 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

“Yes, I do blame the parents for owning guns. They should have known better than to put their children into harms way. Who cares if the [insert ages of your children, grandchildren or nephews/nieces] will be emotionally and psychologically impacted for life by the actions of Jack-Booted-Thugs?

The State must not be questioned!”

That shoe is really going to pinch when it is on your foot; I hope your children/grandchildren/nieces or nephews aren’t threatened with death/shot as an “example” because you are a “gun-owning, dangerous conservative terrorist”.

Today, constitutional rights are trampled for the “good cause” of drugs.

The “good cause” of many Americans is ridding America of gun ownership.

When they come for you, don’t say you weren’t warned. You tried to justify the actions of the government Hydra, instead of cutting it down to proper size.

It will devour you, in its turn.


58 posted on 05/21/2012 8:51:34 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

What’s the next step. “get your screaming toddler under control, or I’ll shoot him?”


I wonder if it’s only a matter of time. I also wonder if that would finally wake Americans up or not.


59 posted on 05/21/2012 8:52:14 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: caww

“Again....you play with fire you risk being burned....the kids were put in harms way ‘by the parents’ choices. The state didn’t “terrorize the children”...the parents are responsible for this entire situation ...and all the scars which will come from it.”

So, no Freeper in the future who is arrested/tormented/watches as his or her children is threatened with death for the “crime of gun ownership” should be pitied, in your view?

After all, they played with fire by owning guns without the Permission of the State.

Be careful the justifications you use to justify the actions of the government hydra.

They can also be used when you are the victim it devours.


60 posted on 05/21/2012 8:53:32 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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