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Posted on 05/14/2012 1:57:42 PM PDT by t1b8zs

Have a part time job quiting tomorrow because the HR manager inserted language into my yearly review that my manager didnt pen.Before I leave I want to send a scathing email from home to the entire buisness outlining what has transpired over the past 5 years and pretty much denegrate the executive team for hipocrcy. Not sure if they can come back at me legally. Any legal types out there I can private email this to for a critique?


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1 posted on 05/14/2012 1:57:46 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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Write it.

Don’t send it.

You may want to get rehired at some point.


2 posted on 05/14/2012 1:59:39 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: t1b8zs

Sounds like a great idea!


3 posted on 05/14/2012 2:00:20 PM PDT by Kirkwood (It's not a lie. It's a composite.)
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To: t1b8zs

If you do send it, be sure to run it through a spell-checker first.


4 posted on 05/14/2012 2:00:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Do I really need a sarcasm tag? Seriously? You're that dense?)
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To: t1b8zs

Send email. Get fired. Collect unemployment. Sue.


5 posted on 05/14/2012 2:01:09 PM PDT by ExxonPatrolUs (Gov The People, Buy The People, Bore The People.)
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To: Kirkwood

What could go wrong!


6 posted on 05/14/2012 2:01:49 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: t1b8zs

Send it and have the recipients laugh at your spelling errors! As the man said, it’s better to get fired.


7 posted on 05/14/2012 2:03:41 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: t1b8zs

The problem you have is thinking people will care when most likely they will not.


8 posted on 05/14/2012 2:05:23 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Cogito cogito)
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To: t1b8zs

Be very careful. If you send, be prepared to be asked to document everything. You need to make sure you can back up everything.

Re-read post # 2.


9 posted on 05/14/2012 2:05:38 PM PDT by James Mott
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To: t1b8zs

Don’t do it. It might make you feel better for a few moments but NOTHING good will come of it. It will make you look petty and vindictive. If a future employer hears about it they will think twice before putting themselves in your cross-hairs.


10 posted on 05/14/2012 2:05:38 PM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: t1b8zs
Why go through all the trouble of composing an email?

Just walk in and pee on your bosses desk, that will get your point across nicely.

11 posted on 05/14/2012 2:06:17 PM PDT by red-dawg
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To: t1b8zs

Didn’t your mommy ever tell you not to burn your bridges?


12 posted on 05/14/2012 2:06:47 PM PDT by taillightchaser (When a dimorat says"The American people" the next words will be a lie.)
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To: t1b8zs

If you send it, use spell check on “hypocrisy”.

Actually, I think you should not send it. Write it up to get it out of your system, but do not send it. Do they offer “exit interviews”?


13 posted on 05/14/2012 2:07:29 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: t1b8zs

Is there anything you expect to gain out this exercise?

Other than satisfaction?

I’d say don’t do it.


14 posted on 05/14/2012 2:08:26 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (A conservative, a liberal and a moderate walk into a bar. Bartender says "what'll it be, Mitt?")
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Will your email improve anything for you or the company? Will it harm anything for you or the company?

Although there is a certain cathartic feeling about the grand opus upon your exit, I don't expect it will improve your life any and it is unlikely that your former bosses would be enlightened by and and change their ways. On the other hand it could brand you and a complainer that they are better off without which could hurt your prospects if you need a reference in the future from a boss or coworker.

My advice - don't sent that email.

15 posted on 05/14/2012 2:08:35 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (You only have three billion heartbeats in a lifetime.How many does the government claim as its own?)
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Caution!

Such heat-of-the-moment emails or letters could come back to haunt you later.

If you have been with that company 5 years, you will probably have to list them on future job applications. Most probably, the prospective new employers will contact your former company.

Unless you have a case for legal action, most times, it is better to just walk away and hope that Karma will eventually settle things.


16 posted on 05/14/2012 2:08:47 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: t1b8zs

While it would feel good to send that email, I don’t recommend it at all. Don’t burn corporate bridges if you don’t have to. Take the high road, because any new place that hires may want to know what happened at your last job.


17 posted on 05/14/2012 2:11:33 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency.)
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Don't do it. Something like that will become known. It will hurt your chances for another job. Even if you are right.
18 posted on 05/14/2012 2:12:29 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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Don’t send it. It won’t help and everyone who cares or who can do anything about it already knows.


19 posted on 05/14/2012 2:12:40 PM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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Well, if you have an internet lawyer look at it, it should be watertight.


20 posted on 05/14/2012 2:13:42 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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Although it may seem like a great idea now, is it something you would want your prospective employers to read?


21 posted on 05/14/2012 2:14:25 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: t1b8zs

This is not legal advice, but...

I’d first bring the “addendum” on the review to my boss’s attention, and see if he has any problem with HR “editing” his work. If so, let him take it up with the “editors”.

If not, I’d go to HR and request that they remove the “editor’s comments” from my official review, and write up their own separate review if they have anything to say that they’d like to append their names to.

This is all just a bit too sloppy. But if that’s the way the company is run in general, I wouldn’t send a memo to everyone, I’d simply say “goodbye and good riddance.”


22 posted on 05/14/2012 2:14:39 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: t1b8zs

I would advise against sending this.

At some time, you may need a reference. Don’t flame a bridge - what do you hope to gain? I mean, do you think your email from home will cause corrupt Managment to quit their jobs, sell their homes and flee to Afghanistan?

Someday, some job will ask you if you performed ‘x’, and you’ll be asked to show where you did this, and who you did this with. They will want to know why you left your old job.

I don’t see this as aiding your cause in any meaningful way, and coming back to bite you later on down the road.

Sometimes it’s best to simply leave the company, and keep your mouth shut.


23 posted on 05/14/2012 2:16:29 PM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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Are you SURE you’re ready to burn that bridge? 5 years is a pretty big hole when looking at someone’s work history/resume, ect. You might want to use them for a reference.


24 posted on 05/14/2012 2:17:13 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: t1b8zs; Gamecock; F15Eagle
Now, if you're George Costanza, you can just do the opposite of what you're thinking. That just might work for you.

"Hire that man!"

25 posted on 05/14/2012 2:17:32 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: LearsFool
I like that...I am retired this is a part time gig.Probably wont look for any thing substantial after this...maybe deliver car parts?
26 posted on 05/14/2012 2:18:27 PM PDT by t1b8zs
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To: t1b8zs

Make sure to make better use of spell check in any message you send.

By the way, there are designated channels for this sort of complaint.
I’ve seen plenty of these “memo-to-the-world” exits, and none have helped the author.

One complained about the exploitation of H1B subcontractors from India. It was all sad AND true. But nothing changed except the authors employment status.


27 posted on 05/14/2012 2:20:23 PM PDT by G Larry (Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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You assume these people have a conscience. They don’t. Don’t give them evidence they can use to ruin your working future.


28 posted on 05/14/2012 2:23:20 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: t1b8zs

Biblical advise:

Romans 12:

14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.[c] Do not be conceited.

17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[d] says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”[e]

21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.


29 posted on 05/14/2012 2:25:49 PM PDT by Raycpa
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Keep your mouth shut and your fingers off the keyboard. You should be the better person and not dive to their level. Also, things have a tendency to rebound and you do not want that to happen.

Nobody on Earth may know you took the higher ground but God will know and that is the most important thing.


30 posted on 05/14/2012 2:29:42 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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31 posted on 05/14/2012 2:30:00 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: aimhigh; t1b8zs
We had a story yesterday where they are trying to treat budding young psychopaths. They believe many of them grow up to be rather normal adults who specialize in financial fraud and employee and labor relations activities.

So, always watch your back ~ TOTALLY.

You could make a really serious error in considering either your boss or the personnel guy to be normal human beings. Think about it, how did they get those jobs? Are there any employees there who ever mysteriously disappeared off the face of the planet?

32 posted on 05/14/2012 2:31:34 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: aimhigh; t1b8zs
We had a story yesterday where they are trying to treat budding young psychopaths. They believe many of them grow up to be rather normal adults who specialize in financial fraud and employee and labor relations activities.

So, always watch your back ~ TOTALLY.

You could make a really serious error in considering either your boss or the personnel guy to be normal human beings. Think about it, how did they get those jobs? Are there any employees there who ever mysteriously disappeared off the face of the planet?

33 posted on 05/14/2012 2:31:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Revolting cat!; t1b8zs
A NOTE: USPS, famous for folks "going postal" still has less than half the rate of violence encountered in private sector businesses.

Just keep that in mind ~

34 posted on 05/14/2012 2:34:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: t1b8zs

Better to be thought a fool that open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Write all you want. Do not send anything. In this digital age you never know when it can come back and bite you in the ass.


35 posted on 05/14/2012 2:41:51 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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If they see that you can’t spell “hypocrisy” properly, they’ll probably just laugh behind your back and think “thank god we didn’t keep that moron around.”


36 posted on 05/14/2012 2:44:27 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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Do it on Facebook. Nobody will ever look there.


37 posted on 05/14/2012 2:46:08 PM PDT by petercooper (The one difference between Obama & Romney: Obama is only half white.)
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I'm not sure who has more authority at your place, the manager, or the HR Manager. Have you talked to the manager about what the HR guy wrote? If you haven't, you should. Our evaluations were completed by an immediate supervisor, then his supervisor would have to sign off on the rating, before it was presented to us. That may not be the way it's done at your job. Not sure if you have to sign and date the review. We would meet with the person who had completed the evaluation, and he/she would go over the form, and explain why they gave us the rating they did. When we got an evaluation we didn't agree with, or there was an error in it, we refused to sign it. We could then write a memo detailing why we didn't agree with it, and have that memo added to our personnel file.

If things were that bad, you should have kept a dated, bound journal documenting incidents, names, etc. That would add more credibility to your complaints, and they are usually admissible in court if needed.

38 posted on 05/14/2012 2:46:45 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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I usually don camo and eye black, hide on the hill near the plant and generously strafe the whole 7-am-3-pm shift change until the helicopter snipers get a bead on me. Most times, I get out within six months with a whole s***load of Thorazine and then I party with the strippers at Skinny Dick’s Halfway Inn all night.


39 posted on 05/14/2012 2:47:59 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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To: t1b8zs

A leave-work opus is an amazingly stupid idea.

Just move on.


40 posted on 05/14/2012 2:48:17 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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Imagine if everyone quit when a HR affirmative action idiot did something insufferably stupid.

Every job in the country would be unfilled!


41 posted on 05/14/2012 2:49:02 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: petercooper

Naw, he oughta write it on his blog and then post an excerpt here with a link back to it.


42 posted on 05/14/2012 2:50:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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I usually don camo and eye black, hide on the hill near the plant and generously strafe the whole 7-am-3-pm shift change until the helicopter snipers get a bead on me. Most times, I get out within six months with a whole s***load of Thorazine and then I party with the strippers at Skinny Dick’s Halfway Inn all night.


43 posted on 05/14/2012 2:50:42 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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I usually don camo and eye black, hide on the hill near the plant and generously strafe the whole 7-am-3-pm shift change until the helicopter snipers get a bead on me. Most times, I get out within six months with a whole s***load of Thorazine and then I party with the strippers at Skinny Dick’s Halfway Inn all night.


44 posted on 05/14/2012 2:51:11 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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I usually don camo and eye black, hide on the hill near the plant and generously strafe the whole 7-am-3-pm shift change until the helicopter snipers get a bead on me. Most times, I get out within six months with a whole s***load of Thorazine and then I party with the strippers at Skinny Dick’s Halfway Inn all night.


45 posted on 05/14/2012 2:51:38 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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I usually don camo and eye black, hide on the hill near the plant and generously strafe the whole 7-am-3-pm shift change until the helicopter snipers get a bead on me. Most times, I get out within six months with a whole s***load of Thorazine and then I party with the strippers at Skinny Dick’s Halfway Inn all night.


46 posted on 05/14/2012 2:51:38 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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I usually don camo and eye black, hide on the hill near the plant and generously strafe the whole 7-am-3-pm shift change until the helicopter snipers get a bead on me. Most times, I get out within six months with a whole s***load of Thorazine and then I party with the strippers at Skinny Dick’s Halfway Inn all night.


47 posted on 05/14/2012 2:51:39 PM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.)
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What do you do?

I didn’t catch it.


48 posted on 05/14/2012 2:57:08 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: t1b8zs

Ask for spelling help when you do


49 posted on 05/14/2012 2:59:51 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: t1b8zs
quiting tomorrow because the HR manager inserted language into my yearly review that my manager didnt pen

What is company policy? Are reviews supposed to be between employees and supervisors?

Did the HR manager sign/initial their comment? Was the review from your manager good, only to be compromised by the HR comments?

Are their locations on the form where others can comment, or is it designed to be used between direct supervisor/manager and the employee?

Are their personality/relationship issues?

Have others had the HR manager write in comments on other reviews? Did this happen to you alone?

More details needed.

Corrupt companies operating outside labor law abound nowadays. Companies routinely use reviews to avoid giving raises/promotions to employees. In many cases, it's just an excuse to maintain higher profits, and avoid giving earned raises to employees. You cannot trust them.

Greed has reached all new levels in the U.S.

50 posted on 05/14/2012 3:00:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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