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1 posted on 05/08/2012 7:23:26 AM PDT by redinIllinois
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If you want to get rid of 0, either is better. But both are the most flawed candidates that the GOP offered this year.


2 posted on 05/08/2012 7:25:41 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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This moring, Romney is crowing about his support of the auto company bailouts.

I rest my case


3 posted on 05/08/2012 7:31:04 AM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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Dr Ron Paul is the one...and ONLY choice among a herd of lessor evils...

Semper Watching!
*****


4 posted on 05/08/2012 7:32:02 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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I hear you - red to red in IL so to speak...

As much as I do like the basic libertarian view on many issues, I’m kinda with Santorum when he said “I don’t believe in *no* government”. I have to part ways with Ron Paul and others when it comes to legalizing harmful drugs, sticking our heads in the sand internationally, and other things.

I think the right combination of common-sense Libertarian and conservative principles would be unstoppable, but that’s sure not Ron Paul. Not that he has a chance against Romney anyhow.

Sadly, here in our state I’m afraid Jokin’ Joe Biden would be a step up from our present state politicians...


5 posted on 05/08/2012 7:33:30 AM PDT by bigbob
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Ron Paul: Traitor Bradley Manning Is A “Hero” and a “Patriot”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2823009/posts

Ron Paul Flashback: Israel ‘Created’ Hamas
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Ron-Paul-Israel-Hamas/2011/12/28/id/422376

‘Ron Paul wishes Israel didn’t exist’
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4167257,00.html


11 posted on 05/08/2012 7:42:03 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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whom do you mean by “we”?

TX, CA, & NJ primaries are upcoming. I ain’t the “we” in there.

PS I couldn’t figure out if this was a vanity or what.


12 posted on 05/08/2012 7:43:27 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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I'd love to see Ron Paul as President, if for no other reason than to piss off the powers that be. The media and the two parties would be suicidal!
13 posted on 05/08/2012 7:46:17 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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Ron Paul would be an abject world wide disaster...

I am not thrilled about it, but the facts are simple, Romney for good or ill is going to be the Nominee.

Don’t have to like it but do have to accept it.

Now, this leaves in practical effect 2 choices:

1) Continue to attack and bash Romney and undermine him and by those actions help the re election effort of Obama

or

2) Support Romney, begrudgingly and do what we can to ensure his victory and work to hold his feet to the fire after the election.

Reality is, if we continue to attack Romney, justified or not, we help those who are even more an enemy to our cause. Its a crap decision I know, but its the only one that exists this election cycle.


14 posted on 05/08/2012 7:51:30 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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I voted for RP in the NYS primary.

ABO in november.


15 posted on 05/08/2012 7:51:30 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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If given a choice between Dr. Paul, Mitt or Obama, I’ll have to go with Dr. Paul, even if he is a tinfoil fruitcake.


18 posted on 05/08/2012 7:55:15 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (End Obama's War On Freedom.)
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Well, given a choice of Ron Paul v. Obama, it's still ABO. Paul at least has an idea of the cuts needed to rein in the Fed Gov (domestic cuts, too, big ones), and the Congress would likely keep the defense picture in focus.

As someone has pointed out, he can't do it alone, the Congress makes the laws, he either signs or vetoes them.

19 posted on 05/08/2012 7:56:31 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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It's down to Romney

While he is appealing on some fiscal and domestic fronts, Ron Paul is unacceptable on foreign policy.

22 posted on 05/08/2012 7:59:30 AM PDT by newzjunkey (I advocate separation of school and sport)
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Ron Paul has no chance of beating 0bmama.


23 posted on 05/08/2012 8:04:52 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Ron Paul is a nut case. And that is absolute best anyone can say about him. If you want a second term for BO, vote Ron Paul. Not happy about MR, but not about to commit suicide over it by voting for RP.


25 posted on 05/08/2012 8:05:25 AM PDT by RedElement
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The insane who leans liberal, or the liar who is liberal; that is the question.


26 posted on 05/08/2012 8:09:53 AM PDT by Ingtar ("As the light begins to fade in the city on the hill")
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Ron Paul is nothing to be frightened of, because though he may prevent the onerous Romney from getting the nomination, in combination with the Santorum and Gingrich delegates, his people are not strong enough to get Paul the nomination.

So right now, the real conservative leaders are trying to figure out who they will nominate who is acceptable to the 60-70% of delegates who are conservatives. And no, if given the choice, it won’t be Santorum or Gingrich either.

Whoever it is will have to embrace the sane parts of the Paul agenda to get their support, tempered with strong conservatism on conservative’s core issues that are not repulsive to the Paul delegates.

And this could be a huge victory for both conservatives and for the country.

This potential conservative nominee is going to have to both give promises and get promises from the congressional Republican leadership for support if he hopes to win big, and the conservatives are going to watch this like a hawk to make sure that the leadership does not try to force him to “moderate”, which would ruin his presidency.

Some key issues I can imagine:

1) Giant cutbacks in the size and power and spending of the federal government. An end to “czars” and presidential signing statements and abuse of recess appointments.

2) Restoration of the 4th Amendment and the downgrading of the Intelligence-Police behemoth, to reasonable levels of security. “Foreigners are the enemy, not the American people.”

3) Securing the border with Mexico and an end to a lot of the stupid, internationalist treaties.

4) Massive scale energy development along with the return of a lot of the federally taken lands to the states.

5) The appointment of rock solid conservatives to the Supreme Court and federal bench.

6) Yes, the military is going to have to take some hits as well, but this needs to be done sensibly, such as much tighter controls over major weapons systems programs. We cannot afford any more destroyers that cost as much as aircraft carriers.

7) Get the federal government and most insurance companies out of routine medical care. This alone will drop its price by 50%.


28 posted on 05/08/2012 8:11:31 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Ugh, I never thought I would hear myself utter such a thing, but I think I could plug my nose for RP.

I feel like I need a shower now.

Mitt will never get my vote.

31 posted on 05/08/2012 8:14:49 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Politics is fake. I think it's owned by Vince Mcmahon)
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snore


37 posted on 05/08/2012 8:22:01 AM PDT by bboop (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? St. Augustine)
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Romney is the most socialist Republican that’s ever been offered to us. Our biggest crisis right now is the debt and the biggest driver of the debt is entitlements. Romney has shown he will cave and buckle every time a welfare entitlement is challenged so that he can pander for votes. He has also remained extremely supportive and positive throughout the primary about his great socialist entitlement Romneycare.

Even our military leaders have said our greatest national security crisis is the debt. The only reason we have been a powerful military force is because our economy has been so productive. Our debt will absolutely crush us as a world power and make it impossible to sustain a competitive military.

Despite Ron Paul’s faults on social and foreign policy issues, he is an extremist when it comes to fiscal conservatism and that is what we desperately need right now. We need spending austerity and slashing of taxes to save our economy. Whatever Paul might screw up on other issues, we can fix later. The debt is something we simply will not be able to fix if it gets any worse. It will be the end of America as a significant world power and will leave us vulnerable to all forms of military and foreign invasion.

I am pretty sure the Congress would make financing Israel a prime issue and force Paul to cave on that. That’s a bipartisan issue.

Bottom line, Ron Paul almost certainly can’t win the primary, but when you have a choice between him and Romney, Paul is the obvious and only choice for the desperate fiscal times we live in.


38 posted on 05/08/2012 8:22:11 AM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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simple logic applies here:

fubo is a socialist

mcromney is a socialist

socialism is the enemy of the republic

therefore, if you support mcromney, you support socialism

that makes anyone and everyone who supports him an enemy of the republic

if the choice is between paul and fubo, I could hold my nose and pull the lever for paul.

Since I am not a socialist, not do I support socialism, there is not a chance I will cast my ballot for a socialist.

Period


39 posted on 05/08/2012 8:25:30 AM PDT by joe fonebone (If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil.)
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