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To: LibertyRocks

Ok, got my tin foil hat on. Why did homeland security just purchase 450,000(or was that 450 million?)rounds of hollow point bullets? Taking tin foil hat off.


37 posted on 04/03/2012 4:40:07 AM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: MsLady
Ok, got my tin foil hat on. Why did homeland security just purchase 450,000(or was that 450 million?)rounds of hollow point bullets? Taking tin foil hat off.

450 million 40 caliber rounds from ATK and another 200 million or so from Winchester. I've not heard the hollow point bit. Well, HSA isn't procuring for the military, so they're not acquiring them for use against enemies foreign. HSA isn't procuring them for local or state police, since those procurement processes are under state or local control. So the only thing to conclude is that they are acquiring this ammunition for some operation of their own, the targets being either illegal aliens (ha ha) or citizens within the United States, including both civilian and law enforcement types who don't want to get with the program. Looks like Barry is following the dictates of Chairman Mao. Of course, Mao was only copying the founding fathers who knew that power is, indeed, found in the barrel of a gun:
"...but if circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude, that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people, while there is a large body of citizens, little if at all inferior to them in discipline and use of arms, who stand ready to defend their rights..." (Alexander Hamilton speaking of standing armies in Federalist 29.)

"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation. . . Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." (James Madison, author of the Bill of Rights, in Federalist Paper No. 46.)

"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the article in their right to keep and bear their private arms." (Tench Coxe in `Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution' under the Pseudonym `A Pennsylvanian' in the Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789 at 2 col. 1)

"Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American... The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people" (Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788)

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of people always possess arms, and be taught alike especially when young, how to use them." (Richard Henry Lee, 1788, Initiator of the Declaration of Independence, and member of the first Senate, which passed the Bill of Rights, Walter Bennett, ed., Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republican, at 21,22,124 (Univ. of Alabama Press,1975)..)

"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined" (Patrick Henry, 3 J. Elliot, Debates in the Several State Conventions 45, 2d ed. Philadelphia, 1836)

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?" (Patrick Henry, 3 J. Elliot, Debates in the Several State Conventions 45, 2d ed. Philadelphia, 1836)

"The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- (Thomas Jefferson)

"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence ... From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that is good" (George Washington)
Interesting, isn't it, that we hear all this crap about the sportsman and the 2nd Amendment from those politicians who are the most eager to exert supreme national power over every aspect of the citizens' lives? No, the 2nd Amendment is for the people to protect themselves from those politicians who overstep the Constitutional bounds of their elected office.
39 posted on 04/03/2012 5:01:41 AM PDT by aruanan
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