Posted on 02/18/2012 7:51:38 PM PST by lwoodham
I watched a movie last night on Netflix called "The Disappearance of Alice Creed" that started out as a decent movie.
After I had gotten interested the movie and around the 30 minute mark, the 2 main male characters suddenly embrace and start kissing. At first I was revolted and then the revulsion changed to anger. There was nothing in the Netflix description to indicate that this was about gays. I personally believe homosexual activity is wrong and sinful. I remember the first time I ever heard of someone being homosexual and i knew right then and there in my heart that it was wrong.
I do realize that other peoples views differ and I respect that, but I have a right, I think, to live my life without having someone else's views and ideals being forced upon me. My concern is that children in some homes are allowed to pick and choose movies from Netflix and other places. As children, they are vulnerable and susceptible, and are like hungry sponges seeking new ideas and information. Do children have the life's experiences to make logical decisions on what is right and wrong? I'm sure some do, but I am also sure that not all do. I fear for our future.
It's my opinion that movies should have a rating such as "H" is they contain homosexual content. I am totally offended that I wasn't warned in any way about this and I now have a distrust for Netflix. Not one word in the description of the movie gave me any clue. /rant off
What was the MPAA rating?
We started watching that last Saturday. I got bored and went to bed. I knew the girl would escape. My wife filled me in on the love triangle thingy in the morning. Glad I went to bed instead.
I too have Netflix.
This movie is rated R and has a Common Sense rating of Iffy for 17+
The very first review says, “there is some (hetero and homo) sexual content, and there is a healthy dose of (male and female) nudity.”
Sounds to me like you didn’t take the time to read the information that was provided. I don’t like watching dudes swap spit either but I take some personal responsibility when it comes to selecting what I watch.
queers and islam must have the same pr people.
It is an R rated movie. Worry about your own kids. I will worry about mine.
And try some research before you watch something next time:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1379177/parentalguide#certification
Actually no rating system is needed. It’s an antiquated system left over from a time when all we knew about a movie was what they put on the poster. In the modern age you can find out anything you want to know about a movie without even looking at the rating. Had you paid attention to the information on Netflix about the movie you would have noticed that the first entry under the genre heading was “gay and lesbian movies”. And there are parental controls on Netflix, you can block Rs.
Yeah, I saw this movie too on encore. there was no indication in the description of this crapola being in the movie.
That is how I felt when I saw the movie, Song Catcher. It begins as a really interesting story about this woman who is collecting old folk songs from the mountains and has a romance with Aidan Quinn. The music was great, and then all of a sudden during a picnic on a hot summer day, this woman’s sensitive sister and another female schoolteacher start making out under a tree. I nearly vomited. It ruined the movie for me, and I have never watched it again. It totally was out of place and unnecessary. I also resented the film portraying the preacher and most of his congregation as evil “Deliverance” type figures.
Check IMDb about the film and the ratings.
To be fair to Netflix, it does have the gay/lesbian genre tagged under the movie and a small mention of two men partners, but yes they could have added something more visible.
I remember running across this issue back around 2000 with a movie called “The Love Letter.” Hijinks as a result of various people reading the letter and misunderstanding who it is from.
Eventually turned out it was from the mother of a main character to a female lover.
I have no great objection to people making movies about lesbian love. But I do object to paying to see such a movie without being aware of what I’m getting into.
it's "R" rated.
Heck, I think if I had kids at home I wouldn’t even let them watch tv. Several of the shows I watch have unmarried women who are having babies and no one blinks an eye. It’s not shown as something to be overly concerned about, simply just as something that is normal. That would certainly not be something I wanted my children to watch, but of course it probably is something they would be exposed to in their daily life. I’m glad my kids are grown now, I don’t know what I would do anymore. Things have changed amazingly fast.
Again, it was mentioned check out IMDb online about the film
You will never ever get what you want. They are trying to make homosexuality mainstream and so you will find it in every movie, with never a warning of any kind.
That said, I thought it was an excellent movie and at least the homosexuality was not gratuitous and it was just the one kiss, no male nudity. A LOT of female nudity.
Anyway, little good that does you. They would no sooner have a rating for gay content than one for “green” content. You will never see a rating for homosexuality even though many of us are offended by it.
If it disturbs you that deeply you may just want to research every movie you plan to see and just google the title with “gay” or “homosexual” and see what pops up. You are stuck protecting yourself from exposure as Hollywood wants to cram this down are throats, as do the schools and the government.
I suggest Q for queer.
I've found it a good idea to scan the renter's reviews. There I found this:
This movie is rated R for, "Violent content, pervasive language and some sexuality/nudity."
You are right. I didn't read anything except the description:
Thinking they've cooked up the perfect crime, Vic (Eddie Marsan) and Danny (Martin Compston) abduct young heiress Alice Creed (Gemma Arterton), only to find their surefire plan unraveling as they attempt to negotiate a tidy ransom in director J Blakeson's twisty thriller. As the steely Alice lies tethered to a bed, an escalating battle of wills -- and wits -- ensues when setbacks shift the balance of power.
Genres: Gay & Lesbian Movies, Thrillers, British Movies, Crime Thrillers, Psychological Thrillers, British Thrillers
This movie is: Gritty, Suspenseful Availability: Starz Play Streaming
I see now that in genre it's listed as gay lesbian. It's not Netflix's fault, but my own. Up to this point I had never encountered anything like this so I really didn't know that the description given was not enough to know what the movie contained. I am enlightened.
Quote; “How about we force gays to wear rainbow stars so you can avoid them in your daily activities?”
Sounds good to me.
I pulled up the Netflix title page, as I just finished watching something else.
At the bottom of the title page, just below the length / date / R rating is: GAY & LESBIAN MOVIES - THRILLERS
It would seem that adding an H rating would be repetitious.
I hate fag movies so i can understand where you are coming from. There is a reason why they don’t sell that much because it caters to a very small percentage of the population.
I still remembered Stargate U on cable and two of the supporting actors suddenly turned fudgepacker and kissed each other. That was the part I went to the fridge for beer and my fratmates were mad when i got back.
It’s called “Culture Jamming.” They throw it in your face from so many directions in so many ways and it’s supposed to numb/dumb you down so you’re soon chanting “They’re Here, They’re Kweer; We’re Down With It!” in an ecstatic march chanting with other drones marching Market Street-style pride, beneath a rainbow and a dove, finally living in utopian peace hand-in-hand with all life forms as one united harmonic convergence, a true celebration shared by comrades of every stripe, including but not limited to those comrades who are more equal than other comrades.
Exactly, Freedom... Even if the government itself wasn’t trying to shove it down everybody’s throats (no pun intended), Hollywood, the Media and the Arts in general, WOULD continue to push it. It is in their genes, (and in their jeans).
Sounds good to me.
Not even remotely funny - OR defensible. Grow up.
Yep, I see it now. I honestly don't care what someone else does as long as they don't flaunt it in my face. I do know that homosexuality is wrong for me. I will definitely be more thorough in researching movies from now on. I hope I didn't stir up a hornets nest, but It did piss me off because I thought I had no warning. All my fault though.
I really like the quality of a lot of British TV.
Downloaded and watched a mini-series just last night called “Boy Meets Girl”
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1225790/
It was very good.
I like the Sherlock Holmes tales and have not yet started on the new 2010 British series... I want them all in bluray quality before I start in on them :-)
> Sounds good to me.
Umm, Romans, looks to me like abercrombie_guy_38 forgot his "/sarcasm" tag, and you bit right into the bait.
His comment was edgy but ironic; yours was over the line, not funny IMO. I hope for your sake that you forgot your "/sarcasm" tag too, else you really ought to read up on what Talisker pictured in #27. It's not appropriate to joke about, without some sign that you're joking.
Doped and Deranged.
ack...I haven't watched TV in over 4 years except an occasional football game when Bama is on, and a few American Idol broadcasts. I stick with the internet for all news and entertainment. I had no idea that this stuff had migrated to TV, but I should have known. /shakes head
No need, our military has invented "GAYDAR":
And if you can't get hold of one and need a quick self-check:
I always go to IMDB and look at the parental guide before watching any of these movies. If you know crap like this is going to be in the movie you can avoid a lot of frustration and anger.
The IMDB parental guides sum up all the potentially lurid scenes and often tell you exactly how many “F” words you will have to endure.
MH - male homosexual content
FH - female homosexual content
I’d be satisfied with one rating which told me which movies are homosexual propaganda.
So I could actually watch other movies again.
As it is, odds are a movie will be carp. So I don’t bother.
Actually that's not a bad idea. A lot of straight guys like watching girl-on-girl action.
Assuming it's action. A lot of female homosexual movies do nothing but "talk about the relationship". We get enough of that at home, thanks.
Sitcoms - every joke is sex related and half have two straight men making eyes at each other all in good fun don’t you know.
The women all have sex with as many men, and or women, as they can get their hands on and make bathroom/sex jokes on all topics, ick.
Don’t ever watch - it’ll hurt your feelings and make you sad.
Dang.
I posted #39 without reading any of these.
I think we achieved a quorum on this suggestion.
Wow.
We break into tears when Basil beats the Mini with a branch. It is hysterical.
I check the imdb.com parental warnings before I watch any movie, I would suggest you do the same.
Sex & Nudity
BBFC rating is 18 for Contains very Strong Language, Strong Sex, Violence, and Threat
Quite near the start - just after Alice is kidnapped, she is stripped naked. Her ankles are tied to the bed and her wrists handcuffed to the bed and she is also gagged. You see bare breasts. Photographs are taken of her by the kidnappers and then they put clothing on her.
Later on you see one of the men at the computer looking at the pictures taken. It is intimated that he is aroused and subsequently goes to the bedroom and again, intimated that he is aroused.
You see them hold a bed pan to her for her to go to the loo. At one point she needs a “number 2”, he gives her a bucket - she pulls down her trousers to use. No nudity here.
Later on - one of men kisses Alice consentually. Her top is removed and you see breasts. She kisses down the body of the man and then takes his trousers off and handcuffs him to the bed. Turns into a fight and throughout you see breasts. Also at one point - the man is able to stand and you see his penis.
The 2 main men share a passionate kiss.
There is talk throughout about making love - between the 2 men and between one man and Alice. — IMDb Parents Guide: The Disappearance of Alice Creed (2009)
Here is the parents guide, pretty inclusive. Use it
Crap like this is the reason I gave up entirely on all modern programming. I just stick to old-time movies and shows, as they represent an America and a culture I can respect and hold pride in. I can’t maintain any of that when I view current fare. Quite the opposite.
There is site called “Kids in Mind” (sorry, on my phone and don’t have the link handy) that will detail everything that might be objectionable about a movie. If I remember right, down to a count of various curse words. (I wonder who gets THAT job?)
A different rating system would have been handy when I barely caught my Mom in time to stop her from buying a ticket for Brokeback Mountain... “I haven’t seen a good western in awhile!”, she said.
I don’t watch tv & grew up without it, but I’ve read about culture jamming and every now and then I catch some TV at a friends’ house (like the SuperBowl) and I see the idea totally in effect. They grow more blatant & shameless.
Thinking they've cooked up the perfect crime, Vic (Eddie Marsan) and Danny (Martin Compston) abduct young heiress Alice Creed (Gemma Arterton), only to find their surefire plan unraveling as they attempt to negotiate a tidy ransom in director J Blakeson's twisty thriller. As the steely Alice lies tethered to a bed, an escalating battle of wills -- and wits -- ensues when setbacks shift the balance of power.
This movie is: Gritty, Suspenseful
I'm *intrigued* (for lack of a better term) that you chose the movie knowing it was gritty, suspenseful, violent, had a lot of nudity, and a kidnapped woman tied to a bed by two men, but it's the two guys kissing that really bothered you.
On that list, there's a lot that bothers me 'more'.
Just sayin...
I personally believe homosexual activity is wrong and sinful. I remember the first time I ever heard of someone being homosexual and i knew right then and there in my heart that it was wrong.
Read the description you say you did read again. My summary, it's violent film about two men kidnapping a woman and tying her to a bed.
You speak of sensitivity to your sense of right and wrong... But you didn't rent On Golden Pond here, with what you already knew. Lots stands out to me as people doing 'wrong'. Violent, sinful, wrong. I think from the description, with the warning about nudity, there was a fair expectation, had these men been 'normal', they might have raped her.
None of these sins stuck out as things you didn't want to expose yourself and hapless children to? Nothing potentially upsetting or harmful about the rest of it?
People are nothing, if not funny :~)
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