A note in the comments section - "CEQ 10:51 PM on January 30, 2012 eye-witness account reported to Montara Dog: "Yesterday my husband and I walked our two border collies on the cement trail of Ranch Corral de Tierra...we encountered a man in his late forties with his two little dogs...being cited by a park ranger for not having them on a leash. Since we had never seen a park ranger during our 7 years of walking our dogs there, we asked her why she was patrolling the area. She quickly responded that the area was now under GGNRA control. The man she was citing had already leashed his dogs and provided her all his personal information. He asked her if he could go home and she said No. He then asked her to provide him a ticket or tell him why he couldn't leave. The park ranger was very rude and told him he could not leave un! til she heard by from her base but didn't tell him what she needed to hear from them or why he was being detained. After ten minutes the man asked her again to let him know why he could not leave or just cite him but she gave him no answer. My husband even asked her why she was not letting the man go on his way and she told him to stay out of it. Eventually, the man just started walking in our direction so he could go home. This really upset the park ranger and she told him to stop and that he could not leave. Once again the man asked why and just told her to give him a ticket or let him know if he was being arrested. Note that he had already leashed his two small dogs and was puzzled at the fact that he could not leave. Since she did not respond as to why he was being detained nor tell him the type of jurisdiction she had over him, he started to walk away and she told him that she would tase him if he walked another step. The man replied that he had a heart condition and to not taser him as it could be life threatenin! g. He gave her his back to look at me and my husband in disbelief to what was going on and the park ranger fired her taser at him. The poor man fell to floor and you could see that he was in a lot a pain. An elderly man was walking right by the man when he got tasered and luckily the passerby was not hurt. It was completely incredulous to see what was going on over two small dogs that were not leashed. About ten minutes later the sheriff came and hand cuffed the man. He asked us to take his dogs home and tell his wife what just happened. We heard ambulances on their way and believe that instead of going to jail (for doing nothing) was taken to a local hospital.""
posted on 01/31/2012 10:11:26 AM PST
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posted on 01/31/2012 10:17:06 AM PST
by joe fonebone
(Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
SOP by the Gestapo is to shoot the two little dogs.
posted on 01/31/2012 10:17:55 AM PST
(If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
Are there any disproportionate/unnecessary force statutes in Kalifornia? This is sickening!
posted on 01/31/2012 10:19:27 AM PST
(It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
The park ranger was very rude and told him he could not leave un! til she heard by from her base but didn't tell him what she needed to hear from them or why he was being detained.
"Am I free to go? Am I under arrest? Am I being illegally detained?"
This is gonna cost somebody, big time.
posted on 01/31/2012 10:19:29 AM PST
by Joe the Pimpernel
(Too many lawmakers, too many laws, too many lawyers.)
This guy needs to get a good PI lawyer.
posted on 01/31/2012 10:20:18 AM PST
by headstamp 2
(Time to move forward not to the center.)
I was going to say that this was a “He said, she said” situation. But the account by the eyewitness is totally credible, and damning to the ranger. She should be investigated and, if this holds up, FIRED.
posted on 01/31/2012 10:20:40 AM PST
Note to self: Do not give false information to a federal law enforcement officer and then attempt to walk away when being detained.
posted on 01/31/2012 10:21:51 AM PST
He should have turned Obama “occupier’ and shIt on the cruiser. He would have been let go.
posted on 01/31/2012 10:22:03 AM PST
“...and provided her all his personal information.” Did he? Thought he lied to her. I think both parties are wrong here. But ignorance of the law is no excuse. Perhaps a simple sign noting the new leash laws would’ve been useful. And if the sign was posted, just issue the ticket or warning. Dude, if you are detained, don’t try to walk off.
posted on 01/31/2012 10:24:56 AM PST
(The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
“The ranger was trying to educate residents of the rule”
He should have said he was just occupying the park.
posted on 01/31/2012 10:29:59 AM PST
("A crack shot and a good dancer")
One day, one day I believe that this is going to happen to the wrong person at the wrong time and a bunch of people are going to end up dead or badly injured. And you know what? i think that is precisely the reactions that the ‘powers-that-be’ are hoping for.
And we all know what will happen then. Massive overkill on the story by the MSM and ‘new’ Even more restrictive laws will be enacted, and so the process to tyranny and slavery will be accomplished.
posted on 01/31/2012 10:36:03 AM PST
by The Working Man
(The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
At the end of article ...the path had been an off-leash trail for years until last month when it became part of the national park system.
Example of why we need less government. The man may have been using the trail for years to walk his dogs. As soon as the federal government takes over, they bring more rules, less freedom and he is tased.
posted on 01/31/2012 10:39:31 AM PST
Hell hath no fury like a woman (in a paramilitary uniform) scorned!
posted on 01/31/2012 10:42:38 AM PST
(Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
Sounds like he deserved it... if not for walking the dogs unleashed then certainly for attempting to leave when told to stay put. This guy has (had?) a problem with authority.
posted on 01/31/2012 10:50:56 AM PST
We get to know the citizen’s name but not the bureaucrat’s. Typical.
posted on 01/31/2012 10:56:34 AM PST
A Taser is the least he should have gotten. Unleashed dogs are the worst. I bet the owner doesn't even pick up their waste.
Owners like that are the worst.
Kinda. Throw out the Taser.
posted on 01/31/2012 11:00:02 AM PST
(Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
“The ranger, who wasn’t identified, asked Hesterberg to remain at the scene, Levitt said. He tried several times to leave, and finally the ranger “pursued him a little bit and she did deploy her” electric-shock weapon, Levitt said. “That did stop him.”
The ranger was trying to educate residents of the rule, Levitt said.”
Education by cattle prod always works for me!!! Comply or fry (or die in some 400+ cases).
posted on 01/31/2012 11:02:44 AM PST
by Jack Hydrazine
(It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
Comment on the story from another forum:
“Ironically, I’m pretty sure that in 98% of all tazings, there’s a douchebag on the end with the prongs.”
Note the locale, San Francisco - home of fruits, nuts, and flakes and “that law doesn’t apply to me” Obama supporters.
Well done, Ranger.
posted on 01/31/2012 11:09:34 AM PST
( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
From the comments after the article:
“The comments here are a very good example of the divide between Americans and Authoritarians. Authoritarians of course believe that citizens should submit to the authority of government where as Americans think it is government that should submit to the authority of We The People. I’m not saying citizens should have the right to run wild as of course we have laws for a reason however an American would recognize that there are two types of laws, ones that protect us and others that enslave us. The litmus test for identifying which category a law falls into is simple. That test is if a victim be identified.
Let’s take the law that requires supposed free citizens to give identification when approached by a government representative. When I was a kid we used the scene of a Nazi Gestapo agent approaching a person and asking for papers to scare people into thinking how close we came to living in a world with that type of government abuse. Let’s set aside the obvious fact that our Constitution forbids government from infringing on our right to remain silent or our right not to incriminate ourselves and just focus on the fact that there is no victim. Who did this guy hurt? Some people say he could have been a criminal however anyone walking down the street could be a criminal thus is this justification for government agents to tase us at will?
Think about it and also ask yourself if you like the direction our country is heading. Are you willing to give up the Constitutional protections that so many have fought and died for because you’re afraid of some perceived terrorist threat? Do you think those who fought and died we afraid when they were being shot at and bombed? Of course they were but they died giving us all the gift of freedom. Don’t spit on their effort by condoning such governmental abuse.”
posted on 01/31/2012 11:36:19 AM PST
("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
posted on 01/31/2012 11:53:41 AM PST
(Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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