Posted on 01/06/2012 5:51:36 AM PST by rawhide
I noticed what looked like ‘good job’ by the white haired official to lard boy, in #6.
Among the players you protect by calling the game correctly are those like #34. He is now characterized as a bad person, as are his parents and his coach. But, if the game had been called correctly, his identify would be anonymous. Nobody would have ever known about him, and the particular foul or fouls he committed would soon be forgotten. His willingness, as a football player, to help out the basketball team would be put into a different perspective. To really help, he’d have to focus on becoming a better basketball player. Avoid the stupid fouls. Concentrate on establishing his position in the paint. Watch his lateral arm movement. I don’t known that offensive linemen are able to play basketball well. No quickness or leaping ability. Plenty of bulk, which would help establish position under the boards for rebounding; but, as you can see in the clip, any basketball player should be able to step around the fellow on a drive to the basket.
Action needs to be taken against 24 White’s coach. No decent coach would put a player in who behaved in this manner. Then, there’s the AD and the principal, where are they? Has winning become so important to them that having one of their players assault the other team is acceptable? 24 White isn’t acting in a vacuum (though that certainly doesn’t absolve him). The adults around him are allowing this behavior, and even rewarding it by giving him floor time.
Were it me, the kid would not only be missing from the basketball court, but the football field, too. He has no clue when it comes to sportsmanship. No responsible adult would allow him in any sort of physical competition.
I played combat b-ball as a kid with no officials and used those techniques. But that would be “retaliation” on a high school basketball court with approved officials and would have gotten the fouled player thrown out. Either officiate and pitch the bums or quit taking the money. I officiated football, basketball and soccer at the high school level and soccer at the NCAA level. You walk on the field or court and take control and you are the king. That kid and his coach would have been getting a lecture from me on the 1st foul and been gone on the second! But then I am a crazy, combat veteran!
It’s pretty clear that the only reason #24 is in the game is as a thug. He has no talent, just big and nasty. What needs to happen is for the whole team to be forbidden to play for a year. Tough for the kids who weren’t responsible, but when a coach is teaching that sort of “sportsmanship,” a school needs to pay the price.
yes. The failure to enforce the rules means that you get advantage from breaking them. Since the rules really are “whatever is called”, a foul isn’t a foul if the referees decide they aren’t going to call it.
If you are in the game to win, you’ll commit the fouls you can get away with.
Just like football — linemen hold just about every play, and how flagrantly they do it is based mostly on whether they get called or not, getting progressively worse until the foul is called, and then they know the limit.
And in baseball, if the pitcher finds that the umpire is calling a way-inside strike, they will certainly aim for that spot more often.
34 is CLEARLY a goon..
The push off was clearly undercalled, it was intentional, the first foul was by 34, and basically just shows an untrained player being goonish IMHO.
The rebound was a flagrant, but I don’t believe was anything over the top.
The final foul clearly was not only goonish, but the kid who did it didn’t care, and even seemed proud he’d closelined the kid.
Whoever the coach of this team is they should be ashamed, as a coach for having a player that clearly doesn’t know the game, or sportsmanship, but is just a goon.. that’s not what Basketball is supposed to be about and it reflects that the coach clearly has no idea, or doesn’t care about the game himself, and #2 for putting a player like that on the court in the first place is a second smack against this coach.
I know I wouldn’t put that guy on the court unless I had no other option, he clearly doesn’t respect the game.. now whether he was coached to not respect it, or its just a personal flaw of the individual I don’t know, but any coach that would put some goon like that on the court needs help.
I agree, the bearded boy is a very poor basketball player, not a bully, just lacks in arm coordination and jumping ability. The other one is a bully, though.
I agree in prinsiple with what you are saying, but its not the fouls that riled my blood the most, its the fact he didn’t seem to care, and almost seemed proud of it. In football you make a good hit, that’s part of the game, in basketball, when you screw up, and knock someone down, you offer them a hand back up and apologize, not walk away from them with a poop eating grin on your face.
I Love basketball, played it my entire life.. and I hate seeing situations like this. The ref’s should have put a stop to it immediately and the coach should have done a better job recruiting or training, or both.
Exactly. And, refs not in control of the game = very dangerous situation.
What the hell did they feed that moron? Holy Crap! And the other moron is even bigger!
After watching the Gonzaga U. basketball game last night I wondered how the high school thugs would respond to having a few of the “men” show up on the sidelines to have a “Man-to-man” chat about sportsMENship and other related topics...a little 7ft 280lbs of 6% body fat might be taken seriously!
I don’t know anything about basketball, but even I could see the fouls, or most of them. 34 is a thug, for sure
It’s supposed to be a non-contact sport but all you see is guys driving the basket and knocking everyone over on the way without so much as a dribble. It’s not a shooting, play making game, it’s bump and dunk crap.
In all five examples the older white guy...the one with a full head of gray hair...is the one official you see who always had the clear view of the infraction and whose arm is raised first, indicating that he was the official who initiated (made) the call. In the clips where you can see another official (the black guy or the bald white guy) they always have an obstructed view of the play, and may not have been able to clearly see the true nature of the foul. But in all five example clips you can see that its the white guy with the full head of gray hair who is always the guy who has the best view of the foul. Were I the person(s) reviewing this to determine if some action needed to be taken, that is the guy I'd be most interested in talking to. Something is seriously wrong with this officiating team. And at a bare minimum, that one referee should never be allowed to officiate a game again. As for the two goons who committed these fouls, while I think they're wrong and should probably not be playing basketball, their coach is the guy who worries me most. Any coach who can watch a player conduct themselves like that on a basketball court and then defend the boys involved, is either coaching them to play that way, or allowing that kind of play with full knowledge and reasonable expectation that those kinds of "assaults" are going to happen when he walks his team on the court before the game. As is mentioned in the intro to the video, this kind of on-court violence has been going on for a while, which is why the video was made in the first place. While those two boys are most certainly "goons," the bad guy in this is the coach. It's logical and reasonable to conclude from the video's comments and what we see on this video that the coach has been encouraging this kind of on-court behavior for a while. He should be fired immediately. If the league doesn't sanction him the school he's working for should find someone to replace him immediately and put him "out to pasture."
Ah. It wasn't just me that saw that.
Words fail.
I dont know what video you were watching but I sure didnt see any basketball skills displayed by this thug...in fact in all of these clips I would say that ejection or a stern warning would be warranted....but we wont have to fret over it now because a national spotlight will be shined on these clowns....
Completely different situation.
The injury to Jack Jablonski was accidental. These fouls, particularly number 5, were not.
And in addition, the player who delivered the check that injured Jablonski received an automatic game disqualification.
The opposing coach should have pulled him team off the floor.
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