Posted on 12/29/2011 4:54:10 PM PST by Born Conservative
Did this professor also tell you how many develop COPD? Smoking is nasty but I do not like the obvious discrimnation. I wonder how much homosexuals cost us annually with mental help issues/ sexually transmitted diseases, in addition to the rampant drug use in these communities.
False argument. No government agency is telling them to do this.
My first wife was an OBGYN Nurse there in the 1970’s. She was the only nurse who did not smoke in her group.
“I learned in grad school from a nursing professor that only 15% of smokers will actually develop cancer. Where he got that stat & if its true I dont know but its interesting.”
Never mind cancer it is COPD that you have to worry about. When I hear of someone getting that I know why they got it SMOKING! Like my last idiot redneck neighbor who was ordered by her doctor to quit smoking because she was getting it but still took off her patch to smoke. I don’t feel any pity for her in fact when she has to haul an oxygen tank around 24/7 I will laugh in her face and say “you just had to smoke didn’t you?”
and raybbr you are correct is it private business let them hire who they don’t want!
You are darn right about COPD! See my post 44! I would dare to say it is worse to die of COPD than lung cancer. The last stages the person is on oxygen 24/7 and never really catches their breath. Constant labored breathing if you can imagine. Like an asthma attack that just never ends.
I met a high school friend not too long ago and found out that people I knew back then are already dead. One is dead of COPD! It bothers me that this person was only 35 when they died! I knew this person smoked clear back to Jr. High but for real. What a way to die! NOT! (As we said in school)
Makes economic sense — the cost to insure smokers is higher.
I wonder if smokers-only and non-smokers-only water fountains are up next?
Nanny State PING!
The #1 cause of COPD worldwide is unvented wood and coal fires. It also has causes other than smoking.
Geisinger is joining dozens of hospitals and medical organizations across the country that are encouraging healthier living,decreasing absenteeism and reducing health care costs by adopting strict policies that make.....”
A hiring men only policy pfeferable..... OK, how would that be accepted? Heck, given the potential for the added costs of matertinity leave, the costs that children bring into health insurance, etc. Then it must be OK to hire only men....
Lets see.... You use correlation as your basis for logic and then hold up the UK’s NHS as an example.... I smell ozone.
” I do support businesses rights to choose who they serve.”
Says a proponent of gov’t banning tobacco use on privately owned property....
That may be so but in the case with my inbreed neighbor when the doctor tells you to quit because you are in the first stages of COPD then one can only suppose it is more than a “good idea”. I should also say this inbreed was/is an obama voter so we know who is and will be paying for her death long battle with COPD. So why should she care? She just takes of her nicotine patch that was “given” to her and smokes some more at the expense of all of us.
Freedom means just that.
Only one thing - If a company can base hiring decisions on smoking, can a company hire ONLY smokers and not hire nonsmokers ONLY because they don't smoke?
Do you have anything to back up that claim or are you just blowing smoke?
Sure they can hire who they want, but to single out one group and then call it logical is just pc bs. What about diabetics, or people who eat garbage, or people who only play video games and never exercise? What about women of childbearing age, or women with children? They miss more work than the average person, and they use insurance a lot. How about excluding those with any kind of pre-existing condition, or how about anyone who has any kind of mental illness? The list is endless, and once exhausted you will have zero employees.
What if I am a smoker and I don't need your insurance?
People who think that it is okay for businesses to dictate what employees do while not at work are no better than commies.
Businesses can make all the rules they want, and as long as people agree to them, fine. What I do not understand is why so many conservatives think it is okay for Boss Man to have his nose in any aspect of your personal life.
Good point that homosexual behavior is one of the risky behaviors which spread disease. But since gays are a politically correct, officially approved aggrieved group, they will get a pass under such review of one’s lifestyle and one’s health risks.
Sure. Why not? Their insurance bills will skyrocket but that's their choice.
Huh? That wasn't my quote. It got missed in the italics.
Other than middle school girls and elderly Chinese, does anyone smoke much anymore?
Hoo Boy, talk about nasty, because that's what it would become.
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