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Obscene ornament trial upcoming for SC woman
Sun News ^ | 14 Dec 2011 | AP

Posted on 12/14/2011 7:37:46 AM PST by PilotDave

Edited on 12/14/2011 8:40:48 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

A South Carolina woman who displayed plastic testicles on the back of her pickup truck is set to appear in court.

The attorney for Virginia Tice of Bonneau (bah-NO') said her trial is set for Wednesday morning in municipal court in the Berkeley County community.


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Are we gonna start ticketing dogs and bulls? Or their owners? If it's illegal to display these should it be illegal to sell, import or make them? A $445 ticket for being a low class redneck in South Carolina? Where will it end?
1 posted on 12/14/2011 7:37:55 AM PST by PilotDave
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To: PilotDave

You can have my sticker of Calvin peeing on Jeff Gordan’s number when you pry it from my cold dead hands.


2 posted on 12/14/2011 7:41:46 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: PilotDave

I find obamma bumper stickers to be offensive, but those shouldn’t be regulated by the government either.


3 posted on 12/14/2011 7:42:24 AM PST by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: PilotDave

I was hoping for more details at the article. Is she single, married, old, young, did she buy the truck used with testicles already attached, was there a story involved? I don’t like that sort of thing but a warning would have been more appropriate.


4 posted on 12/14/2011 7:45:26 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: PilotDave
Bet she was displaying TruckNutz.
5 posted on 12/14/2011 7:48:52 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

It is, of course, always a temptation to pull out my tactical folding knife and neuter them...
so far, I’ve resisted.


6 posted on 12/14/2011 7:52:53 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: PilotDave
I find the truck nutz and other brands personally offensive....but would not stifle the first amendment rights of the scrotum brains who sport them on their vehicles.

actually I am glad they sport these as it allows me to know the (lack of)brain capacity of the idiot in front of me and I drive accordingly to avoid them.

7 posted on 12/14/2011 7:55:14 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: PilotDave

Oh, I don’t know....

Stupid should hurt.


8 posted on 12/14/2011 7:56:49 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I don’t recall ever actually seeing TruckNutz in the wild.

They look rather dorky, IMHO.

(But they’re still protected free speech... IMHO)


9 posted on 12/14/2011 7:57:55 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Vaquero

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icQsjNWMfK4


10 posted on 12/14/2011 7:58:22 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Stupid should hurt.”

Oh come on, you know this woman’s life is painful. The gov is just piling on...


11 posted on 12/14/2011 8:01:48 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Nervous Tick

“(But they’re still protected free speech... IMHO)”

IMHO driving a pickup hollering TESTICLES would be free speech, displaying TRUCKNUTZ would not.


12 posted on 12/14/2011 8:05:02 AM PST by ngat
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To: PilotDave
Personally I can't stand the car memorials. Is the car a memorial to your dead loved one?

13 posted on 12/14/2011 8:05:54 AM PST by TSgt (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: PilotDave

Whether its painful or not, I don’t know. Its probably self inflicted pain, so my advice to her is to take take the truck nutz off and grow up.

Making a stand for Freedom of Specch is all well and good. But to do so based you your “right” to display truck nutz is just stupid.


14 posted on 12/14/2011 8:08:23 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: ngat

I disagree with you that displaying Trucknutz isn’t free speech.

Hollering “TESTICLES” is free speech... on that we agree.
So, then, would be putting the word “TESTICLES” on the back window. Yes? (If not, why not?)
Or a picture of testicles on the back window.
...or a sculpture of testicles hanging from the bumper.

See?

Looked at another way: follow the chain backwards, PROHIBITING expressions as you go. It’s a very short step from prohibiting display of a sculpture of something to prohibiting saying the word that represents that something.

What they refer to as the “slippery slope”.


15 posted on 12/14/2011 8:12:46 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: PilotDave; l8pilot; 2A Patriot; 2nd amendment mama; 4everontheRight; 77Jimmy; ...
To each his own.

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16 posted on 12/14/2011 8:15:17 AM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: PilotDave
HOLY COW! (or Steer) Half of the FFA kids are going to jail.
17 posted on 12/14/2011 8:17:02 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: fungoking

“HOLY COW! (or Steer)”

Ummm I think you mean Bull. lol


18 posted on 12/14/2011 8:19:27 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: PilotDave

I recall the original FR thread when this lady was cited. Some astute poster pointed out that all her attorney has to do is make the state prove the “offensive” ornaments are renderings of a human body part and not an animal’s.

The stupid law has a loophole big enough to drive a truck(nut) through.

As a freedom loving citizen, I loathe stupid laws. I hope everyone else reading this does too.


19 posted on 12/14/2011 8:22:08 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: stylecouncilor; windcliff

Testicles, mythic Greek.


20 posted on 12/14/2011 8:22:16 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: PilotDave

Next step - check IDs at the state fair to make sure nobody under 21 gets to see the hogs.


21 posted on 12/14/2011 8:24:25 AM PST by NCjim (Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.)
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To: TSgt
“Personally I can't stand the car memorials. Is the car a memorial to your dead loved one?”

Questions about proper car memorial manners.

How much time has to pass before it can be removed?
If you trade cars and you don't put a sticker on your new one does that mean you no longer care for the deceased?
If you have a couple of cars but only put a sticker on 1 does that mean you don't love the deceased when driving the others?
Are you a bad person if you don't sticker every family member that passes?
Do you need to create a sticker friend list and what is the protocol for adding/removing friends from that list?

22 posted on 12/14/2011 8:24:41 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: PilotDave

Where’s the “Like” button when it’s needed... :-)


23 posted on 12/14/2011 8:25:39 AM PST by NCjim (Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.)
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To: PilotDave
“HOLY COW! (or Steer)”

Ummm I think you mean Bull. lol

If the nuts are hanging on a truck, it's a steer...or a liberal dim.

24 posted on 12/14/2011 8:26:27 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: PilotDave

Did she let the authorities know that the bumper sticker was ripped off? It use to say: “Please neuter your pets.”

A PC comment following the hanging offending parts would probably make this whole thing go away.


25 posted on 12/14/2011 8:36:06 AM PST by PastorJimCM (truth matters)
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To: PilotDave
The sheriff says he wants a jury trial to find "community standards" but the case should never get to the jury because the law is unconstitutional on its face making obscene that which is "offensive."

Those who would control speech and thought usually resort to a subjective test of who is "offended." Muslims are notably easy to offend. This standard is to be resisted everywhere.


26 posted on 12/14/2011 8:36:25 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: fungoking
Correction.....If the nuts are hanging on a truck, there's a steer somewhere...or a liberal dim.
27 posted on 12/14/2011 8:36:48 AM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: Nervous Tick

“I don’t recall ever actually seeing TruckNutz in the wild.

They look rather dorky, IMHO.”

All car addons are kind of dorky, IMO. The nutz are sometimes funny, sometimes gnarly, and on one occasion I saw some that were stylish. Very geometric, chromed steel. Almost subtle. One thing in their defense: they are better than tats. You can take the TruckNutz off when you have scratched that exhibitionist itch.


28 posted on 12/14/2011 8:39:28 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: PilotDave

Those testicle “ornaments” are quite common around here - it is most common, not with rednecks, but with the African-American community. Yes, it’s kind of odd seeing a pearlecent, color-changing expensive paint job on 10 year old Crown Vic, with 28 inch chrome rims (often with spinners), and one of those plastic testicle decorations hanging under the back bumper... Especially when parked in section 8 housing...


29 posted on 12/14/2011 8:41:33 AM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: PilotDave
The law says that a sticker or emblem is obscene when it describes:
(1)....in an offensive way sexual acts,...
(2)....excretory functions....
(3).....or body parts.

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THIIISS--S-S-S--S-S-S-S... STATUTE...
--Clearly prohibits any Obama/ DHIMMI-crat political bumper stickers in South Kakalaki....

COUNT ONE: ....in an offensive way sexual acts,...

Well...
The U.S. Treasury has been regularly robbed & raped for three years running....
...and American taxpayers are getting screwed over every day...

**************

COUNT TWO: ....excretory functions,...

Well...
They have been urinating all over the Constitution since taking office....
.... not to mention that all of his cronies and spokespersons remain full of crap to the point of overflowing the sewerage treatment plant...

**************

--AND--

COUNT THREE: ....or body parts...

Well...
I can't remember when there were SOOOO MANYYY [D] brazen boobs and noisy [D] @$$h*les plainly visible within District of Columbia...
.... likewise on lefty-leaning lamestream broadcast media...

*****************

I rest my case...

[END OF RANT]

31 posted on 12/14/2011 8:52:47 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: nathanbedford

Ah yes, nothing like a jury trial to frighten those who don’t approve of self-government.


32 posted on 12/14/2011 8:53:04 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Responsibility2nd

> Making a stand for Freedom of Specch is all well and good. But to do so based you your “right” to display truck nutz is just stupid.<

I agree. I don’t like for governments to regulate political speech on the bumpers of cars, or to make decisions about what sexual materials people can view in the privacy of their homes. For me, though, government regulation of “bumper balls” is easier to justify (even though I’d say they’re no more than vulgar, and unlikely to cause much offense).

The difference between what’s on a bumper and what’s seen in somebody’s home, or at voluntary gatherings, is that what she puts there is being forced upon the attention of other drivers. To give a more extreme example, the law allows people to see images of sexual intercourse, oral sex, sodomy — many kinds of sexual acts — in sites of their own choosing. If she were to put them on her bumper, though, that would intrude into the personal space of other persons who haven’t chosen to view it.

[The tricky area for me would be a combination of political speech and porn, especially soft porn, on the bumpers of cars. Deciding what should be protected speech wouldn’t be easy.]


33 posted on 12/14/2011 8:55:03 AM PST by GJones2 (Bumper balls--free speech?)
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“So, then, would be putting the word “TESTICLES” on the back window.(be free speech) Yes?”

NO.

“If not, why not?”

BECAUSE FOR IT TO EVEN BE SPEECH, IT MUST INVOLVE INTELLIGIBLE VOCAL UTTERANCES BY A HUMAN BEING.

“See?”

Sure I see. Speech is one thing, pictures, sculptures, and actions are another.

“Looked at another way: follow the chain backwards, PROHIBITING expressions as you go. It’s a very short step from prohibiting display of a sculpture of something to prohibiting saying the word that represents that something.”

NO. You just took that step of trying to give the word “speech” the same definition as the word “expression”. Now you have slipped down the slippery slope by confusing the definition of speech with expression. IT IS THAT VERY LARGE STEP OF GOING FROM PROHIBITING DISPLAY OF SOMETHING OBSCENE TO PROHIBITING SOMEONE FROM SPEAKING, THAT GOVERNMENT IS PROHIBITED BY THE CONSTITUTION FROM TAKING.

And, don’t bother going down the road the Lawyers in Black Dressup in D.C. took who got it wrong when they confused the two.


34 posted on 12/14/2011 9:04:49 AM PST by ngat
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’ll add that even though I don’t oppose regulations about obscenity on bumpers, I’m in South Carolina itself, and if I were on her jury, I wouldn’t convict her. I think bumper balls are just slightly vulgar. More funny than sexual.


35 posted on 12/14/2011 9:08:38 AM PST by GJones2 (Bumper balls--free speech?)
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To: TSgt

I once saw a sharp new Ford F-150 in front of me with a huge memorial sticker in the window “In loving memory of Dad”. Then I noticed that the driver looked to be about 80 years old. So I look back again to check the birth/death dates. 1906 - 2009! heh

Now I know that losing a parent is tough, but if it happens when you are 70+ and he is 103, maybe you could have peace about the parting. My mom had just passed away unexpectedly and I was dealing with that, and I felt sorry for myself that I didn’t have 30 more years to spend with her like this guy had with his dad... sigh

Then the following year, my neice’s boyfriend lost his dad when he was just 18, and I was reminded how fortunate that *I* was compared to so many others. So my lesson was that we should all count our blessings.


36 posted on 12/14/2011 9:17:57 AM PST by Fletcher J
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To: ngat

Know how to tell if a girl is ticklish?


37 posted on 12/14/2011 9:32:59 AM PST by RipSawyer (This does not end well!)
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To: PilotDave

They just updated the article and the trial has been delayed until Jan. 3rd delay. Sounds like the “man” doesn’t want this to go to trial...


38 posted on 12/14/2011 9:46:01 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: TSgt

When I lived in Los Angeles that was a staple on every gangbangers car.


39 posted on 12/14/2011 9:46:15 AM PST by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: PilotDave; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
Once again, the goobermint sticks its nose in where it doesn't belong.


40 posted on 12/14/2011 9:51:49 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Nervous Tick
I don’t recall ever actually seeing TruckNutz in the wild.

I've seen a dozen or so pairs.

OTOH, I'm in the SF Bay area, I guess it pays to advertize, if ya get my drift...

41 posted on 12/14/2011 9:56:52 AM PST by null and void (Day 1058 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: GreenAccord

My childhood friend either invented or modified Bumper Nuts. She lives down in St. Pete. Is this lady going to sue her? Lol..


42 posted on 12/14/2011 9:56:57 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Outside the perimeter ping.


43 posted on 12/14/2011 10:02:42 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: Nervous Tick
"I disagree with you that displaying Trucknutz isn’t free speech.....would be putting the word “TESTICLES” on the back window....Or a picture of testicles on the back window. ...or a sculpture of testicles hanging from the bumper."

OK, what about a penis - should they be allowed to hang, say, life-like dildos on their vehicle?
And you're driving behind them with your ten-year old daughter in the front seat - do you think that is "Free Speech" then?
For crying out loud, I expect adolescent behavior from Libtards, but Conservatives? We should be better than that.

44 posted on 12/14/2011 10:13:17 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: RipSawyer
Know how to tell if a girl is ticklish?

I'll bite. How?

45 posted on 12/14/2011 10:15:10 AM PST by null and void (Day 1058 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Psalm 73

It’s not like they didn’t show them to her in the local pubic school...


46 posted on 12/14/2011 10:17:27 AM PST by null and void (Day 1058 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void
"It’s not like they didn’t show them to her in the local pubic school."

We home-school, my daughter knows her biology - but I still don't want people displaying male sex organs to her.
Would you want that for your daughter (at any age)?

47 posted on 12/14/2011 10:41:02 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: ngat

>> BECAUSE FOR IT TO EVEN BE SPEECH, IT MUST INVOLVE INTELLIGIBLE VOCAL UTTERANCES BY A HUMAN BEING.

Then the first amendment does NOT protect you when you write. Is that what you’re saying?


48 posted on 12/14/2011 10:55:59 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Psalm 73

>> For crying out loud, I expect adolescent behavior from Libtards, but Conservatives? We should be better than that.

I didn’t say it was wise, or moral, or in keeping with good character.

Nor would I hang truck-nutz from my own bumper. Nor would I recommend that ANYONE do it.

But I *do* maintain that in a country with freedom of speech, it ought not to be outlawed.


49 posted on 12/14/2011 10:59:58 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick
"...in a country with freedom of speech, it ought not to be outlawed."

So, a penis would be OK, too? A vagina? How about both in "close" proximity?
Is it really "anything goes"? That "Free Speech"?

50 posted on 12/14/2011 11:04:46 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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