Really?
Posted on 12/08/2011 7:07:54 PM PST by chessplayer
Astronomers are reporting that they have taken the measure of the biggest, baddest black holes yet found in the universe, abyssal yawns 10 times the size of our solar system into which billions of Suns have vanished like a guilty thought.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
All you have to do is look to the occupiers of the White House
I was wondering just how big those particular black holes were.
Yikes!
Michelle’s what?
Really?
Read the title, it says “black holes” not assholes.
Even bigger than Uranus?
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If black holes absorb everything around them and reduce the mater to nothing, how do they grow? Is the growth comprised of gravity or dark matter? That part has me stumped. I know everything else.
We live in a mixed community. There are bigger black holes in any of my kid’s high school classes.
We live in a mixed community. There are bigger black holes in any of my kid’s high school classes.
Can’t have ANY thread in here where someone has to spoil it by dragging politics into it, can we?
The swirls around the hole resemble those in a washbowl sink ... indicating that graviy prevails out there, as it does on earth.
10 times as big as the solar system?
The scale of that illustration shows a black hole much bigger than 10 times, perhaps 80 times or more?
But, I suppose that the article meant to say a diameter ten times as big as the solar system.
Catastrophism ping. I wonder if Ross Perot hears this sucking sound?
They grow by swallowing up even more. They pull in anything and everything that gets too close, so I imagine they would swallow dark matter and dark energy as well.
http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/abholes.html
apologies to all for breaking from the standard humor portion of this broadcast.
Hahahahahaha!
Where's space guy, I'm sure he has a few sitting around.
"Will there be any TP there?"
The wood's constituent matter still exists, just not recognizable as its original form.
The matter's mass, however, is added to that already a part of the singularity, thus making the hole bigger, if you will.
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racists!
The vastness of space truly boggles the mind. A couple of years ago I was having dinner with some friends. One guy, visiting from NYC, is a professor of astrophysics. My son and I got him in a corner and tried to get him to explain infinity to us. He really couldn’t. With the discovery of that Kepler-22B, it’s even more confusing. How on earth (no pun intended) can these rocket scientists predict how many millions of light years away we are from that planet? How can they even see it with the Hubble Telescope?
A diameter 10 times the size of our solar system would mean the black hole has a diameter (way) more than the distance between our sun and the closest star, 4.3 light-years away. Yikes! It would be well over 12 light-years across. Good grief.
http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=374
You must have seen the movie “Black Hole”, a Disney film, in the late 70’s, with Maximillian Schell, Ernest Borgnine, Yvette Mimieux (Always beatiful like a star), one of the Bottoms boys, and Old Bob.
Astronomers worry about a pair of black holes,
the rest of us worry about a black pair of a-holes...
The other is an Arab, that's passing. (Show us the REAL BC)
"Next on Unsolved Mysteries....."
“The vastness of space truly boggles the mind.”
Yes, I was reading a book this summer, Multiple Universes, by Kaku and he said that astronomers estimate that we can only see a small part of what is out there, that if the universe was the size of a basket ball, what we can see would be only the size of a quarter.
Yes, I was reading a book this summer, Paralell Worlds, by Kaku and he said that astronomers estimate that we can only see a small part of what is out there. He said that if the universe were the size of a basket ball, what we can see would be the size of a quarter.
Yes, I was reading a book this summer, Parallel Worlds, by Kaku and he said that astronomers estimate that we can only see a small part of what is out there. He said that if the universe were the size of a basket ball, what we can see would be the size of a quarter.
This is from the NY times. What do you think they are? They are democrat/socialist political operatives masquerading as news people.
Anyone who believes anything in the NY Times or any mainstream media is being fooled.
want an example? how about how they changed global warming to climate change when people realized it was getting colder not warmer?
Another example . what happened to the BP oil spill that was supposed to be so catastrophic? the hole in the Ozone layer and so on ad infinitum.
I'm telling you all the media has a reason for publishing this black hole bs . I don't buy anything they put out.
People think this is science. LOL LOL LOL. this is socialist propaganda.
European Union?
Yeah,,,the story about black holes is just a hippy/commie plot to take over the world.
They can estimate the distance by a couple methods. For some objects, they can use the principle of parralax, basically, taking measurements when the Earth is at one end of its orbit, and then comparing to when we are at the other end of the orbit in order to get a triangulation. If that doesn’t work, they usually rely on the redshift values of the star and any objects in front of or behind it to get an estimation. The redshift value tells them how fast the star is moving away from us, and from that try to estimate the distance.
Thanks, Boogieman. But my mind is still boggling. It seems to me that there is a line where knowledge ends and guessing begins. Educated guesses, mind you, but guesses nonetheless.
I can’t comprehend the vastness of space, to me, there has to be an end out there like the walls of a box.
Yeah, I think with the nearby stars, they can use the parallax method, which is pretty certain, but for the further out ones, it involves more guesswork.
I presume that this article is describing black holes where the event horizon is about the diameter of the orbit of Neptune around the sun. Everything inside that cannot escape.
The matter that makes up a black hole is "ordinary matter," but squished tight. The atoms around us, what we think of as "solid" stuff, is mostly space. If the nucleus is a marble, the electron shell of hydrogen is about a half-mile diameter (helium is a little smaller, but still, the point being, atoms are mostly empty). Under intense pressure, such as provided by gravity and many close neighboring particles, the electrons meet the nuclei, but the matter is still "ordinary," being detectable by its mass.
If the earth was squished tight, it would be, IIRC, about 150 yard radius. Squished tight enough, it would make a black hole with an event horizon under that size.
Your math is off, somehow. From the sun to Neptune is about 4.55 billion km - so give the solar system a diameter of about 9 billion km. Light travels about 300,000 km per second (sun to earth, about 8 minutes). So, 30,000 seconds times 300,000 km/sec is 9 that billion km. An object ten time bigger (that the orbit of Neptune) is covered by light in 300,000 seconds, about 3.5 days.
Or, just take this (uses a bigger solar system diameter), from your link ...
This means you could put the Solar System about 3440 times between the Sun and the nearest star taking this definition.
If you haven't read "Flatland," grab a copy online and check it out.
The point being, that although we can't picture it, it may be possible to have a finite volume that doesn't end like the walls of a box (or sphere).
Earth has a finite area, but no edge in 2-d.
Even then, the volume of the universe is mind boggling - and so is the emptiness - and so is the physical violence! Collisions, fusion, heat, velocities, energy releases that are so far beyond our earth-bound experience, that they defy comprehension. Even though mother nature is pretty tough, the surface of the earth is a very peaceful corner of the universe.
“I can’t comprehend the vastness of space, to me, there has to be an end out there like the walls of a box.”
Yes, and what is crazy is that they say that space it self is expanding like a balloon, getting bigger and bigger until some day everything is so cold that there will be no energy for anything to move.
But, that is just our universe. Some of these guys think that there are millions of universes that are constantly bubbling up from a constant big bang. Some of these over lap with ours without us realizing it. So it looks like a bath tub with bubbles, each its own universe.
That is cool to my thinking because it sounds like what Christians have always said — that this world is passing away, that there is a better place we are going. Think the many worlds of CS Lewis’s Narnia stories.
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