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The Power of P90X
Men's Health ^ | December 18, 2010 | Joe Kita

Posted on 04/25/2011 5:36:18 PM PDT by Immerito

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To: jjsheridan5

HIT simply means High Intensity Training.

That can come in any form of exercise. As long as you’re pushing yourself hard, to the point of puking, you’re doing HIT.


81 posted on 04/25/2011 7:37:01 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Immerito

Imdeed.


82 posted on 04/25/2011 7:44:24 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Jonty30

I almost didn’t say that, because the term HIT has been co-opted over time. Currently, HIT generally means (IIRC) low frequency, high intensity training, characterized by generally slow tempo movements (4 second negatives) in the 8-12 range. Some variants include things like rest-pause, like in “DogCrapp” training, but the basic idea is the same.

You are right, HIT should mean something more general, but these days it is usually used to describe something quite specific, and something that doesn’t sound like P90X.

Glad to hear, because I really didn’t like slow-tempo HIT much at all (and rest-pause is really an advanced technique).


83 posted on 04/25/2011 7:46:59 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: latina4dubya
oh yes... we bought p90x last month... i guess i should start using it...

I had it for almost a year before I finally got started. Did it for about 6 months and never felt better. Then life got in the way. I gotta pick it back up again. That, and get back on my road bike.

84 posted on 04/25/2011 7:47:05 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Immerito

Men’s Health - I dropped that magazine when they featured Obambi on the cover during the campaign for the 2008 election. I cancelled my subscription, citing their featuring of a communist as my reason. I got my refund, and I bet I wasn’t the only one.


85 posted on 04/25/2011 7:47:39 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Jonty30
Those were my results.

I think that either you are getting numbers mixed up, or a smith machine is much different than actual squats. I've only competed in the 148 pound class a few times and I took 1st place for sqauting, IIRC, 225. Greater than 400 @140 sounds invalid unless you compete nationally. The world record for 148 is 556.

I tend towards having a high amount of muscular endurance and not strength.

If you can squat over 400 lbs @ 140, you should be competing in national powerlifting competitions.

I could push my maximums several times and not just once.

Your maximum is the same as your one-rep max. You can calculated it here

86 posted on 04/25/2011 7:52:19 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
It sounds like P90X to build muscle, Insanity to lose body mass and then relax while watching Charlene Johnson.

P90X is not for building up, but it can be used for that. That's one of the great things about it ... you can adapt it for what you want out of it. Want size? Use heavier weights w/fewer reps. Want toning? Lower the weights and increase the reps. But overall, the main goal of the program is just to get in better health.

87 posted on 04/25/2011 7:53:53 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Immerito
I thought this was gonna be about a new model of this:


88 posted on 04/25/2011 7:54:15 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Immerito

Speaking of HIIT, I used the Tabata method for a while (using thrusters). Wow, is all I can say. Einstein was right — time is not a constant. There is no way that those 20 second “on”s are only twice as long as the 10 second “off”s.

I have become a big believer in “muscle confusion”. The irony is that while it is often looked down on by power lifters, it was actually the norm in power lifting prior to the 60s.


89 posted on 04/25/2011 7:55:15 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: jjsheridan5

If you’re doing the same thing day in and day out, that’s where P90X provides a difference. Tony Horton calls it “muscle confusion.” Just when your body is getting used to a routine and begins to plateau, the routine changes. So if you feel like you aren’t making any further progress, maybe you oughta give it a try.


90 posted on 04/25/2011 7:58:49 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: death2tyrants
I think that either you are getting numbers mixed up, or a smith machine is much different than actual squats.

A smith machine is much different, since you can use leverage (in addition to the obvious fact that you don't have to stabilize the weight). I don't know if there is any conversion out there, but I was shocked at how relatively easy 200-225 pound deep squats were on the Smith relative to free weights. I stopped using it though, because your knees can get trapped in the wrong position, very easily.

Congrats on the 225, by the way, since I assume it was a real squat if it was in competition. Impressive at any weight, much less the 148 class.
91 posted on 04/25/2011 8:03:06 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: jjsheridan5

However you do it, the point of high intensity is to momentarily deplete your muscle cells of the ability to contract, for most people that means a loss of about 20 percent of your energy potential.

In weight training, if you move fast, you might be able to do more reps or push more weight, but that is because you’re making use of momentum and gravity. You’re not necessarily making the most use of your muscles in an exercise.


92 posted on 04/25/2011 8:04:24 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Jonty30
Maybe, but there is a lot of evidence recently that fast motion (relative to the weight of course) actually results in greater muscle recruitment than does artificially slow motion. I know it seems paradoxical. But basically the effects of momentum aren't that great in the grand scheme of things, but what it does is force the body to not rely on the endurance muscle fibers. This causes greater recruitment on the stronger muscle fibers. Either way, the whole subject of tempo is an open question, IMO.
93 posted on 04/25/2011 8:11:51 PM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: al_c

I think confusion is a great concept and it certainly has its place in your training toolkit, because it’s not as though our ancestors had the luxury of taking down a mastadon using the exact same movements.


94 posted on 04/25/2011 9:30:34 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: dalereed
what’s P90X, pills?

A receptionist was telling me today she does P90X. I thought she was saying P-Nutty X. I thought it must be the name of some rapper that did a fitness video.

95 posted on 04/25/2011 9:52:46 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: death2tyrants

It was on a machine I did it but don’t know how that would have translated freeweight.

When I say that I could do my one rep several times, I meant that I could do my maximum and rest a couple of minutes and do it again and rest a couple of minutes and do it again. I could do that for about twenty minutes before the amount I could bench would start to drop.


96 posted on 04/25/2011 9:53:45 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: jjsheridan5
A smith machine is much different, since you can...

Thanks for the info. I was trained to be a powerlifter from the get-go so I never used a smith machine.

Congrats on the 225.

Thanks. It was during a raw meet. I always prefer raw meets over traditional meets where a powerlifting suit is used. Getting into and out of those powerlifting suits is a workout in and of itself.

97 posted on 04/25/2011 9:59:27 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Jonty30

“I think confusion is a great concept and it certainly has its place in your training toolkit, because it’s not as though our ancestors had the luxury of taking down a mastadon using the exact same movements.”

Yeah, and I doubt they had the luxury of primarily training their strongest muscles, as some do today.


98 posted on 04/25/2011 10:12:08 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Jonty30

The biological reason for high intensity is interesting. Glucose is used as energy by the muscles. High intesity training causes the anaerobic break down of glucose from the muscles’ glycogen reserves. This incomplete breakdown creates lactate. Lactate travels to the liver where it is converted into glucose. When lactate exceeds the liver’s ability to clear it (like during high intesity training), it builds up and slightly lowers blood pH. This causes the body to release testosterone and growth hormones which causes faster muscle growth. It’s an elaborate feedback system the body uses to adapt to its environment.


99 posted on 04/25/2011 10:26:23 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: al_c

If you do pick it up again (and if you don’t mind), would you mind discussing your results?

It would be interesting to see whether you will see the same results you did the first time, or exceed them.


100 posted on 04/26/2011 12:12:11 AM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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