Posted on 04/13/2011 2:51:17 PM PDT by Husker
I have never seen a simple possession prosecution for steroids. I wonder if it ever happens.
I call that real baseball.
Yes. And, Tim McCarver will talk about it from time to time.
A great moment in the game that I saw him in was when he hit a batter in a late inning. It's almost like people were just waiting for him to hit someone, and when he did, there was almost applause, even though he was visiting. Gibson, like Drysdale owned that plate, especially the inside, and they wouldn't hesitate to back someone off. That's also lost on the game today, and I think Bonds benefited from it. Had Gibson pitched against Bonds, Barry would have been hit at his first at-bat of every game, and the umpire wouldn't have said a thing. THAT's baseball.
I agree, small ball is great to watch. Being a fan of the Rangers, I don’t get to see much of it, altho they are quite aggressive on the bases, which I like.
The best player I ever saw was Nolan Ryan. He was a beast!!! He also taught Robin Ventura a life lesson. :)
And yet somehow Bill Clinton wasn’t even charged with obstruction.
Pete LaCock hit a homerun off Bob Gibson the last game that Gibson pitched. Ten years later, in an old-timers game, Gibson faced LaCock and plunked him with the first pitch. After the game, Bob Costas asked Gibson if he hit LaCock on purpose. Gibson looked at Costas as if he had come from another planet and solemnly said "the books of baseball must be balanced, Robert."
On another occasion, Gibson brushed back Reggie Jackson in an old-timer's game . . . because Jackson had hit a homerun off Gibson in an earlier old-timer's game.
On the other hand, GIbson didn't hit you unless he wanted to hit you. He had only 104 HBP in his career.
Gibson had that wonderful, calm, professorial voice that got your attention and scared the bejubus out of you if said something stern.
In Gibson's era, your worst nightmare was to be the player coming to the plate AFTER a batter hit a homerun off Gibson.
In the BALCO case that Bonds is part of, I not aware of any charges or convictions for just possession. There have been some for possession with intent to distribute, and a whole bunch of perjury. If the athletes were just honest to the grand jury, the whole case would have been a disaster for the government.
Ron White: "I had the right to remain silent...but not the ability."
LOL! A lesson in the "knuckler". We must not have much of a life. That was twenty years ago !
Not a rule but a change in the playing area I remember. In the fifties the ‘key’ in the NBA was changed, ie: enlarged into what became known as the ‘lane’ due to either Bill Russ. or Wilt’s complete dominance. (I’m not sure which one was truly the one to be credited, maybe both were). Gibson in ‘68 was beyond great! IIRC, he had a broken ankle or leg that season also from a line drive by Roberto Clemente(?)and still hung up that incredible era.
yes, it was 20 years ago but I remember it like it was yesterday. lol My brother even has an autographed picture of it. :-D
“Both were charged with lying to a grand jury. That’s a felony. You can’t do it. If you do it you get prosecuted. End of story.”
Bonds was not convicted on that charge. They had to fall back on the catchall “obstruction of justice” which could be used against just about anyone.
You're right - which is why I inserted the word 'professional."
Personally, I look at Alcindor's rule a little differently. I view his height as playing a bigger role than his talent, despite his extraordinary talent. UCLA never measured Alcindor for the media guide after his freshman year, if reports are correct. He probably played 2-3" taller than reported at UCLA.
Gibson on the other hand was only 6'1", several inches shorter than Drysdale and other pitchers of his day. He wasn't necessarily the fastest pitcher. He was simply Bob Gibson.
If we give pitchers their due, however, Sandy Koufax had three sub-2.0 ERA seasons. The low batting averages in 1968 helped contributed to the "Gibson Rule."
On July 15, 1967, Clemente fractured Gibson's fibula with a line drive. Gibson pitched three more batters before the bone snapped above the ankle. He returned to pitch in two months.
Hank Aaron's advice about Bob Gibson, given to a young Dusty Baker:
"'Don't dig in against Bob Gibson; he'll knock you down. He'd knock down his own grandmother if she dared to challenge him. Don't stare at him, don't smile at him, don't talk to him. He doesn't like it. If you happen to hit a home run, don't run too slow, don't run too fast.
"'If you happen to want to celebrate, get in the tunnel first. And if he hits you, don't charge the mound, because he's a Gold Glove boxer."
Tim McCarver said: “I remember one time going out to the mound to talk with Bob Gibson. He told me to get back behind the plate where I belonged, and that the only thing I knew about pitching was that I couldn’t hit it.”
Don Sutton: “He hated everyone. He even hated Santa Claus.”
Gibson started nine World Series games and finished eight of them (he was yanked in his first game, trailing by three runs in the eighth). No manager dared to take him out. In the next eight World Series starts, 7-1 with a 1.60 ERA.
Man, I miss 'old" baseball.
So I'm immune to this 'Barry "Pass the Hypodermic" Bonds was the greatest' nonsense.
I also was (supposedly) wild. My strategy on playing a team that didn’t know me was to drill the first batter in the ribs. That made the inside curve ball rather successful from then on. And they couldn’t reach a fastball on the outside corner. When I first saw “Bull Durham”, it really made me laugh when he told Nuke to plug the mascot. I thought “yep, that’ll get in their heads”. Baseball was my best sport. To small and slow for basketball, and only marginal at football though I played anyway.
Beaning the leadoff man is a brilliant strategy. Really opens things up.
“The Feds have spent 55 million dollars on this case so far. Sounds like they are going to spend another 20 million or so more since the jury deadlocked.”
Source?
Also, can anyone answer the question, if the grand jury questioner didn’t like the non-responsive answers, couldn’t he just object to the answer and get another?
Thanks for the correction. My old brain has been fading a bit recently....even on my very favorite subject, MLB trivia and related!!
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