Skip to comments.Pima County Sheriff Sets Off Debate on Price of Free Speech
Posted on 01/09/2011 11:57:04 AM PST by Mayr Fortuna
Heightened and "vitriolic" political rhetoric is being blamed by some for the kind of violence that landed Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in intensive care following a mass casualty shooting on Saturday, but others say a blame game is hardly appropriate or useful right now.
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What do you expect from a liberal cop.
Sheriff Arpaio really needs to get down to Tucson and have a man to man with Clarence. Maybe an Iced Tea or Tequila summit or something. Clarence has his priorities confused.
We've seen this before. An ol'gal named Barbara Hatch Rosenberg managed to steer the FBI in the wrong route for 7 years thereby delaying proper investigation into the anthrax attack until the trail was cold.
Wonder if Dupnik knows Babs?
Actual Topic: Sheriffs News Conference Yesterday
Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnik
I think people such as yourself need to remember when you are so intent on blaming what voters have said as the cause for this tragedy, why not mention the rhetoric from Democrat politicians and liberal talking heads including:
If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun, Obama said in Philadelphia last night. Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl. Ive seen Eagles fans.
And I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.
Or John Kerry who said on the Bill Maher show: I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone.
Or Howard Dean I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for
and: This is a struggle between good and evil and were the good?
and we need to remember that the enemy here is George Bush, not each other.
Or Senator Chuck Schumer who called a flight attendant a bitch.
Or the Florida Democrats who ran an ad calling for the assassination of Donald Rumsfeld
Or New York State Comptroller Alan Hevesi who called for Senator Schumer to put a bullet between the presidents eyes?
Or Jonathan Chait who said I hate President George W. Bush.
Or singer Rickie Lee Jones who aid of President Bush Youre an ignorant, low-class, opportunistic man, both personally and politically, who does everything for political gain and nothing for the wellbeing of the people, and you should not be in office, and the kind of fascism youre perpetrating on our country we dont want, and youre out. Were done with you. Ffffhgggmm.
And when asked if she would be willing to take Bush out for the benefit of democracy? If I say that, I might get arrested when I go back. And I have to go home. Shes thinking it out carefully. I guess the question is, would I kill anyone? And the answer is, no. But would I feel sorry if someone killed him? No, I wouldnt. It would depend on who killed him, I guess.
Or The Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn where they superimposed the words Snipers Wanted over an image of Bush delivering his acceptance speech at the Republican convention.
Or Nobel Peace Prize winner Betty Williams who said she could kill President Bush?
Or Randi Rhodes who joked about killing the President?
Or Reverend Wright who called Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, Condoskeeza [sic] Rice.
Or Englands Charlie Brooker who wrote: On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sods law dictates hell probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr where are you now that we need you?
We shouldn’t be discussing the price of free speech.
We should be discussing the cost of censorship.
And we should be discussing the cost of a government making its citizens live in fear of expressing themselves.
The guy spewed twice as much political vitriol in the entire process of complaining about political vitriol he doesn’t like.
If you would care to express your opinion to the Sheriff. use this http://pimasheriff.org/about-us/meet-the-sheriff/ and then click CONTACTS on the right hand top corner.
This guy will be 75 on Tuesday - in law enforcement for 50 years - appointed sheriff in 1980.
If you heard him, he rambled and at times made little sense but, like jimmah, he will now be the poster child for ‘progressive’ causes.
The kook was KNOWN as a kook, yet the Sheriff did nothing. Is the sheriff going to RESIGN for the good of the country? He’s THE PROBLEM and the ENABLER. Like a kid caught doing bad things he blames others. PATHETIC LOSER. Hard to tell if there is any difference between the shooter and this despicable cop. Both are Liberal loons.
He is angling to get an appearance with his Hero. Olbermann.
Sheriff Dupnik and Rep. Grijalva are part of a new wave of lib politicos who decide they can make career hay out of bashing their own states. Fascinating.
There is precedent. Recall the 2007 tornado that flattened Greensburg, Kansas. Then-Governor Kathleen Sibelius disappeared for 36 hours then reappeared in D.C. giving a press conference blaming GWB and his imperialistic wars for inadequate national guardsmen and equipment on scene. They hadn’t even finished looking for survivors and had not requested national guard assistance. She never even bothered to go there but she got what she was after. She’s Obama’s HHS Secretary now. I’m sure Grijalva and Gupnik have similar ambitions.
TRANSLATION: Just bend over for the leftist agenda and none of this will ever happen again.
And this sheriff's comments are typical of left wing loons making a political football out of everything.
This loon is using Heightened and "vitriolic" political rhetoric to blame "Heightened and "vitriolic" political rhetoric" for this tragedy of a left wing crazy attacking a bunch of democrats. It appears that the shooter was not happy that the congresswoman was a "DINO" and not liberal enough for him.
I think he may be involved in going light on the shooter. In his previous Police encounters. The shooters Mom is a County Employee. This calls for Freeper investigation. I understand his record is being expunged at the present time. He was able to buy the gun. What about the background check? Something is fishy.
That’s exactly right.
I think Sheriff Clarence Dupnik is a nasty old bastard who’s lost his objectivity and probably should retire. That’s my opinion and I have a right to express it, just as he has the right to say what he did.
Sometimes free speech is inconvenient, embarassing, or even hurtful. But censorship is always crippling to a free society.
The list of public figures injured or killed by an assassin is long and goes way back. Way back well before the internet or other free speech vehicles became part of our society. I would be willing to bet though that the frequency or incidence of assassination is no greater now than at any other point in our history. Free speech is not a problem, it is a solution to the festering of pent up disagreement and disillusionment.
This discourse by the media and the left is nothing short of stupid. Blame is all this society knows. “Somebody MADE so and so do such and such.” Anybody ever stop to consider that there is a nut job in every corner of the country. Just nuts who can be set off by almost anything? Loughner was nothing other than nuts. He is at the perfect age for the onset of schizophrenia. His rantings are characteristic. The difference between now and many years ago is that we try to mainstream these people instead of institutionalizing them.
The internet and the discourse of the day do make information and mis-information more accessible but does not make sane people do things that are insane.
All it takes is one nut. They have been around since time began. The problem here and now is that we are a nation of twice as many people as we were 50 years ago and many of these people have had limited training in values. Loughner is of the generation where everyone is a winner and all are “special”, no values to speak of, no we, just me is important. We have raised a nation populated by a whole bunch of Longhners and they are dangerous but not because of free speech.
Excellent recollection, well done.
There you go again, proving that the darned internet is nothing but a vehicle for hateful vitriol.
No, what the libs fear is that the internet is a vehicle that prevents cockroaches from hiding from the light of truth. I trust you know his mom is a county employee?
As for the gun, we all know that gun laws and registration prevent anyone who should not have one from getting a gun. Right? Right? Isn’t this true?
Hell it is that lousy Sheriffs Fault this happened, He let that Fag loon run free in his jurisdiction. Suggestion Hey Dupnik put your DNC and Laraza money away and do your damn Job!
when the media wanted to kill our last president.
Pima County Sheriff Sets Off Debate on Price of No Security For Public Officials in His Jurisdiction
They are really sick people.
The Pima County Sheriff is a F’ing tool, incompetent old fart who poisoned the future jury pool against this accused and in doing so performed acts of gross incompetence on international live television.
Sympathies to this old man for losing personal friends, and he is given some leeway in the first days of coping with the tragedy, however his poisoning of the jury pool with his remarks on live tv and further media remarks so far is unforgivable and irreconcilable.
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