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Nearly 1,000 dead pigs found on Fulton County farm
Penns News ^ | Nov 9, 2010 | Jim Tuttle

Posted on 11/10/2010 11:39:32 AM PST by Fawn

Between 950 and 1,000 dead pigs were found Monday on a Fulton County farm where they had apparently been abandoned months ago to die of starvation.M

Humane Society Police Officer Dennis Bumbaugh said he has never seen anything like it before. He said the incident may be the largest of its kind in Pennsylvania's history. "I was horrified when I opened the door and saw what I saw," he said during a phone interview Tuesday.

Bumbaugh was on his way to the Union Township farm of Daniel and Kerron Clark to begin counting the carcasses and assessing the evidence. The carcasses were reported to authorities by Kerron Clark on Monday, and Bumbaugh responded to the Harmon Lane property for an initial look at the situation.

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To: Lazamataz

That’s certainly thinking outside the box.....


51 posted on 11/10/2010 12:31:55 PM PST by Fawn (CANCER SUCKS)
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To: dhs12345

I remember reading those books. It’s been many, many years though, can’t remember anything in them.


52 posted on 11/10/2010 12:31:55 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady
Great books if you are an animal lover! And there is a TV series. It is on netflicks if you have an account. Look for All Creatures Great And Small.

Check out the below link:

http://books.google.com/books?id=u8CRf2BsnuYC&pg=PA98&lpg=PA98&dq=all+creatures+great+and+small+Tristan+pigs&source=bl&ots=4oW6hWtod9&sig=DfFIKvqaujKeTlzTm3BvPJgK8oo&hl=en&ei=gPvaTOXwF8OclgfEr5zuCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBoQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false

53 posted on 11/10/2010 12:36:57 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Fawn

What medical school and internship then residency did you go to so you think you can diagnose a sociopath based on an fishy story about dead pigs starved to death and then they according to you ate each other..make up your mind what those pigs did...just trying to get your story straight so I know what those pigs did.. If the bank took over the farm, its the banks fault that they died of starvation or ate each other...not the people that were kicked out...


54 posted on 11/10/2010 12:37:38 PM PST by goat granny
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To: MsLady

Yeah, those stories always baffle me too. This could be some sort of miscommunication, could be some legal entanglement, could be someone was hired to take care of the livestock and didn’t, could be vidictiveness, could be mental problems. We don’t know. I’m going to certainly withhold judgement.
And I’m sorry, I’m not going to advocate locking someone up and starving them to death even if they DID do it.
For those on this thread who feel comfortable dealing out that sort of punishment for this sort of crime, I will say it again. I find you CREEPY. And no, this does not mean I don’t think there should be any punishment. But you are way over the top.


55 posted on 11/10/2010 12:41:58 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: tiki

once a farm goes into foreclosure, its a legal matter. My son was foreclosed on and the sheriff was involved to serving the papers and the bank checked frequently to make sure the house was not destroyed as long as they were still living in it...over 4 acres in my state gives you a couple of years to live in the house before the owner can be evicted..


56 posted on 11/10/2010 12:42:51 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Fawn; brytlea

57 posted on 11/10/2010 12:44:38 PM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: goat granny
First of all, working around psychologists/psychiatrists gives me ZERO confidence in their ability to diagnose anything.....
Second, where did I say they ate each other???
and Lastly, if it's the banks fault, then they are responsible--guilty--- and should be the ones who are punished.
58 posted on 11/10/2010 12:46:20 PM PST by Fawn (CANCER SUCKS)
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To: goat granny; Fawn
What medical school and internship then residency did you go to so you think you can diagnose a sociopath based on an fishy story about dead pigs starved to death and then they according to you ate each other.

Personally, I make no judgement about the people or the pigs.

However, all parties involved should be flamethrowered to death.

Just in case.


59 posted on 11/10/2010 12:48:35 PM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: gundog

Proud granny, my 16 year old grandson got his first deer with bow and arrow a week ago....my family all hunt, if things go real bad, they can feed themselfs venison, rabbit and all the meat they can shoot or get with bow and arrow...some people will starve cause if it isn’t in styrofoam they won’t eat it..


60 posted on 11/10/2010 12:49:24 PM PST by goat granny
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To: brytlea

Ditto that!!!!


61 posted on 11/10/2010 12:49:30 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Fawn
and Lastly, if it's the banks fault, then they are responsible--guilty--- and should be the ones who are punished.

Don't forget the banks. They need fire, too.


62 posted on 11/10/2010 12:51:19 PM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: casuist

If all else fails, send ‘em to Mecca.


63 posted on 11/10/2010 12:52:17 PM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: MrEdd

Well, addtually, Mr. Newton, I never said it was the guy.

I guess like a lot of Obamabots, you fly to confusion and conclusion.


64 posted on 11/10/2010 12:52:40 PM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: gundog
my family all hunt, if things go real bad, they can feed themselfs venison,

did you get that real good?

65 posted on 11/10/2010 12:53:33 PM PST by Fawn (CANCER SUCKS)
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To: Lazamataz

Now you’re scaring me...just a little.


66 posted on 11/10/2010 12:55:02 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: ZULU; MrEdd
Both of you also need to be flamethrowered.


67 posted on 11/10/2010 12:55:02 PM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: gundog

Good hunting, SPORT. I said I have no problem with it.

I just thought the comment, given the circumstances, was rather callous and inappropriate.

So, remember when you bag that big buck, I would have liked to be in your shoes. Hunting is a great sport.

But shooting pigs in a pen - no thanks.


68 posted on 11/10/2010 12:55:41 PM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: Fawn

This coming from the feral cat-enabling whackjob....


69 posted on 11/10/2010 12:55:54 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (I'd rather take my chances with someone misusing freedom than someone misusing power.)
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To: Lazamataz

Hey, why me??


70 posted on 11/10/2010 12:57:52 PM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: Lazamataz

At least we won’t have to wax for awhile.


71 posted on 11/10/2010 12:58:07 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
You got that a$$backwards. I do the exact opposite...
But, I don't expect you to get it.
72 posted on 11/10/2010 12:58:37 PM PST by Fawn (CANCER SUCKS)
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To: goat granny
...some people will starve cause if it isn’t in styrofoam they won’t eat it....

I offered my neighbor some eggs a while back. She's a city slicker from waaay back. She asked where I got them. I said the chickens had a nest by the house. She gave me that look that says "I'll get my eggs from the store, not from some chicken's ass." And, yeah, her and her kids could starve to death in coastal Oregon...no mean feat.

Congratulations to your grandson....condolences to his future wife. It's in his blood, now. If she doesn't hunt, she'll never understand.

73 posted on 11/10/2010 12:59:06 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: goat granny
If that many dead pigs were on a farm, it would have stunk for a mile around

If that many LIVE pigs were on a farm, it would have stunk for a mile around

74 posted on 11/10/2010 1:01:55 PM PST by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: Fawn
*** Dead animals only smell for so long....*** depending on the size of the animal it can smell for quite a while.

A good size hog would take the maggots a long time to consume it...There is a way to get rid of the smell, but left to themselves they stink for quite a while..add to that 900 to 1000 dead animals its going to be a long time...and if the pens are not cleaned regularly, the gases emited could have also killed them...

People had died going down into the manure pits due to the gases..

75 posted on 11/10/2010 1:03:15 PM PST by goat granny
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To: ZULU
Just because you're there.


76 posted on 11/10/2010 1:05:13 PM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: ZULU
Pork comes from pigs. No way around it. It'd be better to kill them where the others couldn't see it...piggy mayhem would ensue. Sell 'em on the hoof and let the buyer kill them off premises or take them to a butcher to do the deed. The waste was a shame.

And I think I got close to the buck I was after...he's no dummy. No slacking next year...my sniper's nest will be in tip-top order.

77 posted on 11/10/2010 1:06:58 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: goat granny

Thanks for the maggots! It is dinnertime here.


78 posted on 11/10/2010 1:12:45 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: gundog

Good luck with that buck. If you get it, post the picture!

I never figured out how to post pictures on this site.


79 posted on 11/10/2010 1:16:10 PM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: brytlea; Fawn
If I remember correctly, don't get her started on cats !

This sounds like a case of animal cruelty, certainly, but it also sounds like major stupidity for not selling the pigs, even at a loss.

80 posted on 11/10/2010 1:16:10 PM PST by jimt
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To: dhs12345

They’re great books if you just like a good story teller.

James Herriot does a marvelous job of injecting his humor and kind spirit into stories I’d flub, for sure.


81 posted on 11/10/2010 1:21:09 PM PST by jimt
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To: Darth Reardon

Where we used to keep our horses a guy had a few pigs. You’re right.


82 posted on 11/10/2010 1:24:25 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: ZULU

It’s not too hard, but you have to host them elsewhere. Photobucket works, altho I generally post mine from my flickr page.


83 posted on 11/10/2010 1:27:09 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: jimt

Yes, it certainly sounds like several things, and it doesn’t, on the face of it, make much sense. And no, I wouldn’t discuss cats on a bet. Or dogs.


84 posted on 11/10/2010 1:28:13 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Lazamataz
That's an idea, but flame throwers were outlawed in war sometime after WW2 I believe..Don't know if they can be purchased, but Molotov cocktails are easy to make.

Not quite as fast tho. It would get rid of the disease carcass's

85 posted on 11/10/2010 1:32:03 PM PST by goat granny
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To: MsLady
I guess I just can’t imagine doing such a thing and I think most people would be the same way. Sometimes there are misunderstandings all the way around and then you have a tragedy such as this happen. Like the mother who thought her husband got the baby out of the car, and he thought she had, the baby died in a hot car, pretty horrific.

And how would they not know who had the baby?

What kind of self-absorbed morons are they?

Mother's are always thinking about their babies.

86 posted on 11/10/2010 1:55:54 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: casuist

I would question whether this might be one of those deals where a feed mill supplies the feeder pigs and the feed, and the farmer just keeps the animals fed and cared for until they reach market weight.

But if they have been dead since August that doesn’t seem to hold water. The feed trucks would have been in there several times since August.

In set-ups as big as this one SOUNDS to be, the hog feeding equipment is automatic. As long as the feed bins out beside the barn have something in them, the feed is supplied to the feeders on an hourly basis.

Gives me brain cramps!


87 posted on 11/10/2010 2:01:53 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: gundog
some people just don't know their own ass from a chickens...

As that old county song says.....A Country Boy Will Survive

All the men in my family 5 and grandsons 8 of the 9 have been hunting at least once....The women look forward to it cause they camp for at least 3 days and some this year it was 10 days...:O) The house is male free...

Just don't marry a city girl that goes icky at the though of moving out of the city....

Fresh eggs from the coop taste so much better than the store bought ones...you can really tell the difference...

88 posted on 11/10/2010 2:02:00 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Darth Reardon

yes live pigs also stink, dead pigs make you retch and vomit.....


89 posted on 11/10/2010 2:03:45 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

sorry :O(


90 posted on 11/10/2010 2:05:21 PM PST by goat granny
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To: jimt
Yup. Turns out that much of it is fiction, too. For example, in real life, he never married “the Helen.”

Still, it is a very entertaining series.... I read the first book and then watched the first three seasons in the early 80s. Just watched them again on Netflix.

BTW, the later seasons are not quite as good. I had a “thing” for Helen (Carol Drinkwater). They replaced her.

91 posted on 11/10/2010 2:38:54 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Fawn

Did the owner convert to the ROP? That’s the only reason I can see for abandoning so many innocent animals to such a cruel death. :-(


92 posted on 11/10/2010 2:42:09 PM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: mamelukesabre

Pigs have no problem being canibals.


93 posted on 11/10/2010 3:27:38 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Liberals are educated above their level of intelligence.. Thanks Sr. Angelica)
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To: Fawn

Whoever s responsible for that barbarity should be jailed for a long, long time.


94 posted on 11/10/2010 6:49:59 PM PST by exPBRrat (...because without America, there is no free world.)
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To: MrEdd
The wife probably had no idea how to farm, raise hogs or do much of anything. Hell, she probably didn't even want the farm, just didn't want him to have it. She got it in the divorce. The guy could have invested tens of thousands of dollars keeping those hogs alive only to lose any investment and probably be cited for trespassing. Stupid woman, asked and received a hog farm in a divorce and didn't bother to go to it for months. Lock her up.

I don't sound too bitter from personal experience do I ;)

95 posted on 11/10/2010 7:13:27 PM PST by Free_in_Alabama (The average citizen is to lazy to steal from you, instead they are asking the government to do it)
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To: Fawn

The cajun in me says, “la bûcherie!”


96 posted on 11/10/2010 8:05:22 PM PST by Daniel II (I'm Jim Thompson, this is my brother Jimmy, and this is my other brother Jimmy)
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To: Fawn

At first I thought the entire membership of NOW got together to drink the Kool-Ade after the election.


97 posted on 11/10/2010 8:07:56 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: MsLady
That many pigs would have been worth a lot. Anywhere from about $1-$5 a pound.

Pork Shoulders and Boston Butts are on sale at Kroger here this week for $.99/LB, so your number is way off. Doubt the farmer got more than $.35-.40/LB.

98 posted on 11/10/2010 8:11:42 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Fawn

Weaponize them as a gift to the Taliban.


99 posted on 11/10/2010 8:12:21 PM PST by Rebelbase (Palin/Christie 2012)
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To: Fawn

Pretty heartless and disgusting. Poor pigs. The guy had an obligation to the pigs to treat them with respect while they are alive. They are God’s creatures, too. And if he couldn’t do that then he should have sold or given them to someone else. If that wasn’t feasible, he should have put them down in a humane fashion, rather than letting them starve to death without food or water.


100 posted on 11/11/2010 1:37:50 AM PST by VADoc1980
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