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Did Neandertals Think Like Us?
Scientific American ^ | June 2010 | Editors

Posted on 06/14/2010 7:09:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

For the past two decades archaeologist João Zilhão of the University of Bristol in England has been studying our closest cousins, the Neandertals, who occupied Eurasia for more than 200,000 years before mysteriously disappearing some 28,000 years ago. Experts in this field have long debated just how similar Neandertal cognition was to our own. Occupying center stage in this controversy are a handful of Neandertal sites that contain cultural remains indicative of symbol use -- including jewelry -- a defining element of modern human behavior. Zilhão and others argue that Neandertals invented these symbolic traditions on their own, before anatomically modern humans arrived in Europe around 40,000 years ago. Critics, however, believe the items originated with moderns.

But this past January, in a paper published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA, Zilhão and his colleagues reported on finds that could settle the dispute: pigment-stained seashells from two sites in Spain dated to nearly 50,000 years ago -- 10,000 years before anatomically modern humans made their way to Europe. Zilhão recently discussed the implications of his team's new discoveries with Scientific American staff editor Kate Wong. An edited version of their conversation follows.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: godsgravesglyphs; jpb; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals
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Did Neandertals Think Like Us? Subtitled, "João Zilhão defends his controversial view that our oft-maligned relatives shared our cognitive abilities".
  • Scientists have traditionally considered Homo sapiens the only species to invent and use symbols.
  • But over the past few decades archaeologists have discovered a handful of enigmatic artifacts hinting that our cousins the Neandertals -- long dismissed as intellectually inferior -- might have engaged in symbolic activities, too. Experts dismissed the finds, however, attributing them to modern humans instead.
  • The recent discovery of Neandertal jewelry and body paint from two sites in Spain provides unequivocal evidence of Neandertal symbolism and suggests that modern human behavior has ancient roots.
Archaeologica is SMOKIN' today! Here are some I "shared" on Facebook today, that I also want to put up on FR when possible. And some I didn't yet share on FB (or visit, to verify I wanna):
1 posted on 06/14/2010 7:09:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

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Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
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2 posted on 06/14/2010 7:12:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: SunkenCiv

I would say they think like some of us. Look at the South Caroline Senate race and those who voted for Greene. I think those voters would qualify as having Neanderthal genes in them.


3 posted on 06/14/2010 7:12:59 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

Caroline=Carolina


4 posted on 06/14/2010 7:13:30 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: SunkenCiv
More importantly, do we think like them?


5 posted on 06/14/2010 7:15:01 PM PDT by stormer
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To: SunkenCiv

Didn’t they also bury their dead with ceremony?


6 posted on 06/14/2010 7:15:23 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: stormer

:’)


7 posted on 06/14/2010 7:20:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Travis McGee

They did. They made clothing, including hats, wore footwear, created art, possibly kept calendars, they made musical instruments, may have invented soup...


8 posted on 06/14/2010 7:21:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: stormer

Dear old Dad!

The big question:
Were they Dims or ‘pubs?


9 posted on 06/14/2010 7:25:02 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: SunkenCiv

Did they vote for Kenyans?


10 posted on 06/14/2010 7:25:16 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: SunkenCiv
A 12,000 year-old find in Keene (NH), First Massholes sneaking over the border?
11 posted on 06/14/2010 7:32:10 PM PDT by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a poofter)
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To: SunkenCiv

Neanderthals ruled the earth for upwards of 500,000 years. We should be so lucky. They were adaptable, intelligent and strong. They were not so adaptable as to successfully adjust to multiple, massive invasions by our forebears, but then, there has been sufficient degeneration of our stock that we, today could not withstand the same challenge. We should honor the Neanderthals for what they achieved and devote ourselves to a greater fulfillment of real, meaningful civilization.


12 posted on 06/14/2010 7:33:33 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: SunkenCiv

One thing is certain. They didn’t improve their weapons over many centuries of use, where as Cro magnon improved their spears and other weapons over a shorter period of time, allowing them to survive while the Neanderthals died out.


13 posted on 06/14/2010 7:36:47 PM PDT by calex59
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To: SunkenCiv

Kewl!


14 posted on 06/14/2010 7:38:52 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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"Did Neandertals Think Like Us?"

Uhhh . . . let me think.

15 posted on 06/14/2010 7:40:11 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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"They made clothing, including hats, wore footwear, created art, possibly kept calendars, they made musical instruments, may have invented soup..."

Did they brew beer?

16 posted on 06/14/2010 7:43:42 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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Did Neandertals Think Like Us?

No. They joined unions. We didn't.

17 posted on 06/14/2010 7:47:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Bush made me do it!" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: concentric circles

90% of Philly young adults are not fit to serve in the military. (75% nationally;(


18 posted on 06/14/2010 8:07:54 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: SunkenCiv

This smells like a call for Neanderthal reparations.


19 posted on 06/14/2010 8:09:16 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: SunkenCiv

btt


20 posted on 06/14/2010 8:23:47 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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