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Hand gun advice, please

Posted on 03/24/2010 6:44:03 PM PDT by 1rudeboy

I plan on more time at the range this summer. I'd prefer to do so with reduced ammunition costs (I'm a large caliber guy). I know nothing of any caliber smaller than .40cal. I assume that something of the .38 types, or a .357mag might be cheaper, yes?

So here's the deal, here are my required specs:

semi-automatic
9mm, .38, 8mm, .32, .357mag (or something I don't know about)
magazine capacity not important
concealed-carry suitability not important (I live in Illinois)

I just want to have some fun burning-through a lot of ammo. Are there some smaller calibers I should consider? I don't want to plink with a .22--I'm not an interior designer.


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As an aside, I'm the commissioner of an AL-only Roto league, and our live auction draft is Saturday. That's not the reason I posted this thread.

I thought Walther made a semi-automatic in .38(something), but I cannot find it anymore.

1 posted on 03/24/2010 6:44:03 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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M1911A1 in .45 ACP. You can get a Rock Island Armory model for about $400. Mine is smooth, has never had a jam or misfeed and I have put hundreds of rounds through it. Will flat out kill someone and is easy to carry every day. Simple maintenance, easy cleaning, plenty of aftermarket stuff if you’re into that sort of thing.


2 posted on 03/24/2010 6:47:20 PM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: 1rudeboy

If you want cheap and fun with a 2 foot fireball get a CZ 52.

Ammo is cheap 1260 rds for $138


3 posted on 03/24/2010 6:48:41 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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Dude, I said I’m trying to save money on ammo. There’s a damn recession going-on. (And I have a few hundreds to spend now before Obama’s 16,000 come after them).


4 posted on 03/24/2010 6:49:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
S&W 686 357 with a 4 inch barrel with some hogue or pachmayr rubber grips.

I love that weapon.

And you can still get a box of 50 rds for under $25.

5 posted on 03/24/2010 6:50:49 PM PDT by skeeter
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Why semi auto if you incluce .38/.357? That is a wheel gun, and a damn good choice. Use .38 target loads of full boat .357. A 4” gun is good, a 6” maybe more accurate but more cumbersome to carry.

Auto jammers have their place, don’t diss the lowly wheel gun.


6 posted on 03/24/2010 6:51:09 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: mylife

Can those be bought new?


7 posted on 03/24/2010 6:51:18 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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cheapest ammo in the world (besides 22 rimfire) is 9mm luger(parabellum). well, maybe 9mm makarov is cheaper, but I consider that an oddball cartridge.

walther makes all kinds of 9mm handguns. this one is my favorite:

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg86-e.htm


8 posted on 03/24/2010 6:51:54 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: MileHi
Why semi auto if you incluce .38/.357?

I swear, I thought Walther made a semi-auto in .38 - - I might be hallucinating.

9 posted on 03/24/2010 6:52:29 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
I just want to have some fun burning-through a lot of ammo.

.22 long rifle

10 posted on 03/24/2010 6:52:57 PM PDT by JD91
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If you just want a gun for plinking, but not a .22, a .38 special or 9mm are probably your best bets. Cheap ammo.

I just figured that, like most people who buy something just for plinking, you’d rather just spend the money up front and have the one all-purpose handgun, rather than buying another later.

Also, consider reloading.


11 posted on 03/24/2010 6:53:20 PM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: 1rudeboy

No. They are all surplus. Tokarevs are the same caliber. I think those can still be found as new surplus.


12 posted on 03/24/2010 6:53:52 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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It depends on the purpose of your training and what your training elements will be. A cheap way to go for first shot on target would be to consider a Ruger 22/45. It is the size, weight and has the touch and feel of a 1911, yet it fires .22 cal.

If you are looking to purchase a personal defense weapon, I still prefer the .45. I have a Glock 37 and a Springfield 1911. You can pick up 1,000 rounds of 45 ACP from Cabelas for a reasonable price depending on the vendor.

All in my own humble opinion, of course.

13 posted on 03/24/2010 6:54:11 PM PDT by WKeller (Consider a shotgun.)
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Cheap ammo, low cost and reliable firearm, and not caring about size? Get a Smith and Wesson Sigma 9VE (yes, they are VERY reliable since the E version, about 10 years ago), and 9mm is cheap and plentiful. Figure $250 for the firearm (typically $299 with a $50 rebate right now), and $25/100 rounds for factory new ammo, $17/100 rounds of reloads.


14 posted on 03/24/2010 6:54:40 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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"I swear, I thought Walther made a semi-auto in .38 - - I might be hallucinating. "

You saw .380. Much different from a .38 special.

15 posted on 03/24/2010 6:54:52 PM PDT by ronnyquest (There's a communist living in the White House! Now, what are you going to do about it?)
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To: 1rudeboy
Probably .380.

Really can't beat a .357 S&W for versatility and ease of operation. Look at a few.

16 posted on 03/24/2010 6:55:11 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: mamelukesabre
The KGB used it for 60 years and you consider it an oddball. ☺
17 posted on 03/24/2010 6:55:18 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions...$1 Halfbaked...50c)
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To: mamelukesabre

And can those be bought new? I don’t mean to be a stick-in-the-mud, but I’m don’t trust my ability to recognize the difference between a suitable, or abused, weapon.


18 posted on 03/24/2010 6:55:29 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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I wouldn’t count on target shooting with a .380. I can’t hit a damn house with mine.


19 posted on 03/24/2010 6:56:09 PM PDT by skeeter
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I have an HnK USP9 that I absolutely love, and 9mm ammo is still relatively cheap.

I also have an HnK USP45 that shoots like a dream, ammo's a bit more expensive though.

People who know, shoot HnK.

20 posted on 03/24/2010 6:56:10 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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