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Tiger Slams Door on Cops -- Again
TMZ.com ^ | Nov 29th 2009 2:05PM | TMZ Staff

Posted on 11/29/2009 11:30:20 AM PST by GQuagmire

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ Tiger Woods has canceled yet another meeting with the Florida Highway Patrol.

We're told Tiger's lawyer canceled the meeting the FHP had wanted for 3:00 PM ET today. The lawyer gave no reason for the cancellation


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KEYWORDS: policestate; shenanigans; tiger; tigerwoods
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To: Enchante

Yes, it’s his wife being protected.

I don’t think it’s her closing the door in their faces, I think it’s him. he’s obstructing an investigation.

As far as his image is concerned...it’s already been damaged in my opinion.


51 posted on 11/29/2009 11:54:48 AM PST by chris37
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To: jeltz25
"The whole story about his wife having to “extract” him from the Escalade makes no sense."

None whatsoever. Anyone who has kids old enough to drive, and therefor have heard some of the ridiculous excuses for the dented fender, would immediately call BS on this story. I can't believe the cops bought it that night.

As for the rest of it, that car suffered some significant damage. Given the cost of repairs today, it might even be totaled. How could the police not not suspect some kind of intoxicant? After all, he barely made it out of his own driveway and it was a single vehicle accident. It screams of "diver under impairment". Why they didn't demand a BAC that night, is a question that the media should be asking FHP.

52 posted on 11/29/2009 11:55:15 AM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: GQuagmire

He probobly doesn’t want to say anything to cause a problem for his wife, I can understand that, he is allowed.


53 posted on 11/29/2009 11:55:20 AM PST by ronnieb
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To: apocalypto

Hmmm.... I understand she bravely busted out the rear window and rescued him. /s

Right, I have been in a few rescues from a car and trust me your instinct tells you go to the nearest point of the injured.

For instance, in Washington, D.C. 12 years ago, I saw truck on the beltway flip over onto the concrete barrier. I immediately stopped my car, ran to the driver side, assessed him and tried to get the drivers side door open to get him out of the vehicle. Gas was spilling and seemed imperative to move him from the vehicle.

I ran to the passenger door, barely got it open and had to place both legs on the frame of the truck to pull it open wide.

Pulled him out, assessed him again, looked fine, drunk but fine. Grabbed some his clothing from the truck and press them against the wounds. Showed the guys, who had stopped to help, what I was doing and said to continue doing that until an ambulance arrives. Just keep the pressure on him.

Went back to my car, grabbed a light blanket and placed it on him.

I then continued to my dinner reservation, as the other guys were taking care of what I started.

That is what happens in an accident. You don’t blow out a back window of a Cadillac SUV, somehow crawl to your husband and miraculously drag him to the side of the road.


54 posted on 11/29/2009 11:56:43 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: mewzilla
Why tick off the cops? Surely it's better to take your ticket like a man than to flip the bird at the fuzz.

He is protecting his wife from the cops, as any husband would.
55 posted on 11/29/2009 11:56:55 AM PST by microgood
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To: chris37
“Being a punk ass.”

If that were a legitimate statute, half of Florida would be incarcerated. lol

56 posted on 11/29/2009 11:56:58 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Vendome
A bit a long story but that may be what happened.

Sounds good to me.....LOL! I suspect the real truth will lie in the fact that Tiger was running for his life from one pissed off woman whom everyone knows you can't reason with when their temper has taken control.

Best thing for Tiger to do in the future is keep his golf clubs locked up in the vault with his firearms.........In the hands of the wrong person, either one is just as deadly...... LOL!

57 posted on 11/29/2009 11:58:27 AM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: OldDeckHand

good point about possible/likely impairment —— how many *ordinary* citizens could have such an accident just beyond their own driveway and not be tested???

clearly the double-standard for celebrities operating here.....


58 posted on 11/29/2009 11:58:40 AM PST by Enchante (Obama to Jihad Terrorists: Come to NYC and Propagate Your Message - I Am Only Too Happy To Help!)
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To: verity

haha!

I am in Florida, and I think you are right!


59 posted on 11/29/2009 12:00:07 PM PST by chris37
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To: GQuagmire

He better settle this before he tries to play 18 holes of golf. The gallery will be brutal if he continues to stonewall.


60 posted on 11/29/2009 12:00:28 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: verity

LOL. if being a “punk ass” were a crime then just about the whole Democrap party and all of their media whores would have to be locked up....


61 posted on 11/29/2009 12:01:25 PM PST by Enchante (Obama to Jihad Terrorists: Come to NYC and Propagate Your Message - I Am Only Too Happy To Help!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Get me Quinten Tarantino on the Line!


62 posted on 11/29/2009 12:01:41 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: GQuagmire

Uh ... who’s in charge here, the cops or Tiger?

I guess he’s exercising his right to remain silent. But at the same time he’s interfering with an investigation.


63 posted on 11/29/2009 12:02:31 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Vendome; OldDeckHand

From what i heard, it was the rear driver’s-side window that was smashed, probably to open the driver’s door lock.

BTW, on another point - after the Chris Brown/Rihanna incident, weren’t various “DV experts” advising Rihanna to get away from Brown, because he “would do it again”?


64 posted on 11/29/2009 12:02:35 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Hot Tabasco

LOL, to true. Whole incident seems extreme but when you are running for your life because you can’t legally protect yourself....


65 posted on 11/29/2009 12:04:50 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: driftdiver; GQuagmire
He has NOTHING to gain by talking and everything to lose.

From the looks of it, the accident occurred in a gated community. It may very well be that no city or state authority has jurisdiction, or questionable jurisdiction at best. This is probably not a criminal case either, and there was no harm to a person and possibly no public property involved. Enough gray areas exist to suggest controlled release of information is a sensible tactic.

66 posted on 11/29/2009 12:04:57 PM PST by no-s (B.L.O.A.T. everyday...because someday soon they won't be making any more...for you.)
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To: Nosterrex

It’s safe to assume he’s getting very good, expensive legal advice.


67 posted on 11/29/2009 12:05:29 PM PST by lonestar (Obama and his czars have turned Bush's "mess" into a national crisis!)
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To: chris37

Tiger should not be arrested. His wife should have been arrested for domestic abuse. The police ignored obvious signs of domestic violence including facial lacerations and the broken back window. In addition, Tiger’s unconscious condition may have been the result from a blow from his wife. I do not see any scenario that the accident caused him to lose consciousness.

The possible scenario for criminal charges against Tiger is obstruction of justice. However, with spousal privilege, I doubt that any case can be made for obstruction of justice.


68 posted on 11/29/2009 12:06:35 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: al_c

What is wrong with Tiger’s lawyers? They should have had all this quietly settled with the cops the day after the incident.


69 posted on 11/29/2009 12:06:44 PM PST by Cecily
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To: martinidon
How do you know he wasn't drunk? He had a traffic accident that involved damage to public property. The police have every right to question the suspect. Their problem now is they should have done a Breathalyzer or taken blood samples at the hospital to determine if the suspect was impaired. I can assure you if this was me or you we would have been treated a lot differently!

From my understanding, the police have said alcohol is not involved, so that may be why some feel secure in stating that he wasn't drunk. Regardless, he couldn't have performed a pbt (breathalyzer - which, fwiw, are notoriously unreliable and inaccurate) since he was unconscious at the scene. Usually, if someone in unconcious at the scene, the sop here in Kentucky is to get the person treated medically. Unless a person is alert and awake, and obviusly has minor injuries, a pbt isn't performed. If a person is obviously intoxicated, but inured seriously enough to be hospitalized, he/she are placed under arrest and blood tests are performed. I can't speak for how it works in Florida, however.
70 posted on 11/29/2009 12:07:03 PM PST by IMissPresidentReagan (ATTENTION RINOS: IT'S NOT THAT I'M TOO FAR RIGHT; IT'S THAT YOU'RE TOO FAR WRONG! fubo funp)
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To: microgood

Lies. :)

I would have told them EVERYTHING and let them take her.


71 posted on 11/29/2009 12:07:45 PM PST by musicbymuzak
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To: proxy_user
If they don’t have a warrant for your arrest, they cannot make you talk.

Thats right! And in terms of vehicle damage where no citations were issued and no report of property damage, he doesn't even have to make a police report unless he wanted to file an insurance claim; which I highly doubt.........

TMZ is trying to turn this domestic incident into a major news story.......

72 posted on 11/29/2009 12:08:27 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: GQuagmire
Apparently Tiger has put a statemet out on his website saying the stories out there are BS and it was all his fault. The real test will be if he sues the National Enquirer and TMZ. He had no problem suing when there were phony photos out there of his wife. Or when a yahcht commpany used his name without permission.
73 posted on 11/29/2009 12:08:42 PM PST by ejdrapes (Just like Obama, Palin is not the 2nd coming)
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To: microgood

“He is protecting his wife from the cops, as any husband would.”

What if it was a man suspected of possibly assaulting his wife? Would it be deemed admirable if she refused to tell the cops in order to “protect her husband”? Assault is wrong, and if Tiger’s wife went after him then she should be held accountable.


74 posted on 11/29/2009 12:09:01 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: canuck_conservative

Right!!

That worthless sac will cheat again so Elin just needs to grab the kids and leave. She deserves a better man anyway... 1 with moral character and looks.


75 posted on 11/29/2009 12:09:13 PM PST by Drea
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To: Palladin; martinidon
The Florida Highway Patrol has already stated that alcohol was not involved.

As for damaging his neighbor's (and the public's property) I would imagine that Woods has the means to take care of that, and if he for some reason is not doing so, then by all means the cops can get a warrant and haul him in.

If this was some sort of domestic dispute and Woods does not want to involve the police in it, that is also his right. So unless the police have some sort of probable cause to believe that a crime was committed, then Woods has every right to not speak to the police.

76 posted on 11/29/2009 12:09:26 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Cecily

What are we talking about here? A misdemeanor? A violation?


77 posted on 11/29/2009 12:10:20 PM PST by CaptRon
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To: GQuagmire; All

NOTHING ‘good’ EVER comes from speaking with the police, regardless of whether you are, in fact, innocent or guilty.

Lawyer up and STFU. Period. Full stop. Don’t speak to ANYONE other than your lawyer.

You have no idea how easily a determined prosecutor can ‘shape’ your words ( or acts ) to fit a cause for prosecution. What YOU think is obviously exculpatory, your lawyer AND the D.A. knows WILL only open you up to the most amazingly painful consequences. And you totally do NOT know the rules of their game as well as THEY do.

Once your are in their frame, they can ONLY ‘win’ if you are somehow found ( or plead ) guilty. And once their budget has been tapped by their awareness of you, they NEED that ‘win’ in the worst way. And guess who ‘loses’ when they ‘win’ ???

Take a cruise through WWW.FLEXYOURRIGHTS.ORG for a rather useful course in self-defense. ( I KNOW they’re rather ACLU-ish there, but the info is totally valid and vital to anyone who is — however ‘innocently’ — brought into contact with the law. )


78 posted on 11/29/2009 12:10:31 PM PST by 21stCenturion ("It's the Judges, Stupid !")
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To: martinidon
How do you know he wasn't drunk?

Cops have already issued an official statement saying alcohol was not involved...

79 posted on 11/29/2009 12:13:00 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: businessprofessor
"The possible scenario for criminal charges against Tiger is obstruction of justice. However, with spousal privilege, I doubt that any case can be made for obstruction of justice."

Every state in the union has an exception for spousal privilege in cases of domestic assault. In some states - not sure about FL - it is indeed obstruction that the victims are threatened with by prosecutors. This only rarely happens in cases of habitual offenders whose wives continually refuse to cooperate, but it happens.

80 posted on 11/29/2009 12:13:47 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: rintense
From what another freeper said, since this is a traffic violation

The other FReeper was wrong then, there was no traffic violation and no citation was issued.......

81 posted on 11/29/2009 12:15:10 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: OldDeckHand

Resonable suspicion may be enough for a judge to sign a warrant. That is if celebrity doesn’t trump criminality. Unfortunately I think it does.


82 posted on 11/29/2009 12:16:51 PM PST by MCCC
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To: GQuagmire
[Tiger Woods has canceled yet another meeting with the Florida Highway Patrol] Photobucket He was just a little tied up at the time.
83 posted on 11/29/2009 12:17:00 PM PST by RetSignman (Townhalls ..."We have seen the Patriots and they are us")
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To: canuck_conservative
Okay, here is what the door on an Escalade look like:
 
 
 
 
I am posting only because I have friends who have these things and I didn't recall door locks.
 
Still if you are trying to rescue someone you go to the door that is nearest the driver or to the passenger side.(see my earlier post)  It is just insinctuall and makes sense.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

84 posted on 11/29/2009 12:17:11 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: driftdiver

I was watching some sports talk show last night and someone was asked if an average citizen had told the cops to come back later what would the police have said? The guy said they would have been asking questions a few minutes later. Well known people are treated differently than the average person. What did he do that he does not want people to know?


85 posted on 11/29/2009 12:17:37 PM PST by MamaB (If you see someone without a smile, give them yours.)
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To: no-s

If it is in a gated community, it is on private property and would be under the purview of the local county mountie.


86 posted on 11/29/2009 12:18:14 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Lurker

I have read the Bill of Rights. I also know that the police can arrest you and put you in jail, Bill of Rights or no Bill of Rights. There is also something called “obstruction of justice.” Woods broke the law. If he does not want to talk to the police, that is his right; however, the police also have the authority to arrest you and put you behind bars. Is Woods going to tell the judge when he wants to show up for his case, or is he going to wave his Bill of Rights before him. I would like to see how far he gets with that.


87 posted on 11/29/2009 12:18:30 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: chris37

Tigers a fool! The cops just want to make a courtesy call on the stupid ass to cover their tails and he is making it difficult on them.


88 posted on 11/29/2009 12:18:47 PM PST by 1776 Reborn (Test kids and politicians (bigger idiots) on the Constitution!)
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To: OldDeckHand

Good point. The treatment of Woods and his wife is confusing. They are getting different treatment than the average person. She has some serious violence problems if she attacked him with a golf club. He has some serious relationship issues if the reports are true.

If the roles were reversed, women’s groups would be complaining loudly. Sadly, no one is focusing on the main issues of domestic abuse and obstruction of justice.


89 posted on 11/29/2009 12:19:44 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Palladin
At the very least, they need to get details to write up the accident report so the neighbors can file a claim with their ins. co. for the tree.

You're kidding, right? First of all, how do you even know there was damage to the tree? And second of all, for the sake of argument, with all the money in the world and judging by the neighbor's house its obvious they are extremely well off too, why the heck would anyone even bother filing a claim for insurance? Tiger or I would just say send me the bill.........

90 posted on 11/29/2009 12:19:47 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: RetSignman

OMG!!! ROTFLMAO!!!


91 posted on 11/29/2009 12:19:59 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: 1776 Reborn

he should only do it through his lawyer.


92 posted on 11/29/2009 12:20:48 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: CaptRon

I don’t know, but if any charge does apply, I sure wouldn’t help the cops make a case against me. It’s also his perogative not to incriminate his wife if there was an altercation between the two of them.


93 posted on 11/29/2009 12:20:53 PM PST by Cecily
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To: Hot Tabasco

No traffic violations are ever issued on private property. I suspect the gated community is partially owned by Tiger, and all other residents. Thus no traffic violation.


94 posted on 11/29/2009 12:21:02 PM PST by MCCC
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To: MamaB

“Well known people are treated differently than the average person.”

Thats NOT a newsflash. Nevertheless, what exactly do they want to talk to him about. All they have any evidence of is a minor traffic accident. AT MOST thats a $200 ticket and damages to other peoples property.

“What did he do that he does not want people to know?”

I doubt he’s a major drug dealer and is not taking taxes to fund prostitution. He had a fight with his wife. Give the guy a break and some room to fix his family issues.

What right do you or I have to know what was going on?


95 posted on 11/29/2009 12:21:33 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Palladin

He damaged the neighbor’s property. There can be charges there.

Why? He had an accident. I can hit your tree and offer to pay damages directly to you. The police have too much interference in our lives as it is.


96 posted on 11/29/2009 12:21:56 PM PST by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve.)
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To: no-s
From the looks of it, the accident occurred in a gated community.

Absolutely correct! Private property.....

97 posted on 11/29/2009 12:22:12 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: Drea

Tiger gets beat up by a chick!


98 posted on 11/29/2009 12:22:46 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Nosterrex

I am not a lawyer, but I was not aware that you could tell the cops that I do not want to talk with you, especially since he broke the law. I am fairly certain that driving into a fire hydrant is illegal. If I tried that, I would find myself in jail waiting for bail. It must be nice to be a celebrity and know that the laws do not apply to you as they do to us little people.

Why would hitting a fire hydrant be illegal? Accidents happen.


99 posted on 11/29/2009 12:22:47 PM PST by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve.)
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To: businessprofessor

You sound more like defense attorney than a business professor.


100 posted on 11/29/2009 12:22:58 PM PST by Palladin (Holder and Obama terrorize New Yorkers.)
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