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Paramount won't show 'G.I. Joe' to critics
LA Times ^ | August 5, 2009 | By Ben Fritz

Posted on 08/05/2009 8:34:41 AM PDT by Perdogg

With more than $300 million in production and marketing spending on the line for the opening of "G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra" on Friday, Paramount has a message for critics: Go see the movie with everyone else.

A spokesperson for the studio confirmed that there would be no screenings for reviewers at print and broadcast media outlets, meaning if they want to see the film, they will have to go Friday along with regular moviegoers.

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1 posted on 08/05/2009 8:34:44 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: al baby; Artemis Webb; Extremely Extreme Extremist; lainie; lewisglad; PennsylvaniaMom; ...

ping


2 posted on 08/05/2009 8:36:13 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg

Guess they don’t want bad critiques to turn off film goers.


3 posted on 08/05/2009 8:36:27 AM PDT by Harley (Life is Tough, But It's a Lot Tougher When You're a Liberal.)
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To: Perdogg

When a film maker is scared to show a movie to the critics, it is usually a signal that the movie is a turd.


4 posted on 08/05/2009 8:36:54 AM PDT by Munson
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To: Perdogg

Not a vote of confidence


5 posted on 08/05/2009 8:37:20 AM PDT by Minipax
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To: Harley

The director has already turned me against it. **Soup Nazi voice** No $10 for you!


6 posted on 08/05/2009 8:39:06 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg

Paramount sunk a TON of money into this movie. They don’t want screeners out before the release, as they tend to get released on Hulu and on BitTorrent sites.

This is brilliant, if you ask me.

“Go see it with the rest of the public.”

I’m betting it’s Pro-American... something the MSM likes to lambaste in today’s movies.


7 posted on 08/05/2009 8:39:39 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: Perdogg

From what most here say about this movie, sounds like good marketing. Let the people that actually want to see the movie make the decision instead of someone that gets paid to see it. I know I always like to make up my own mind about movies, as lots of critics and I see things differently about movies we’ve seen.


8 posted on 08/05/2009 8:39:48 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: rarestia

not according to the director.


9 posted on 08/05/2009 8:40:34 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sarah Palin-Jim DeMint 2012 - Liz Cheney for Sec of State - Duncan Hunter SecDef)
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To: Perdogg

This is the kiss of death. The last big summer movie that tried to avoid bad press this way was “Snakes on a Plane.”


10 posted on 08/05/2009 8:42:04 AM PDT by jyoders19
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To: Perdogg

that means it probably stinks on ice. I thought it did my own self the minute I heard it was changed to be a UN team instead of an American one.

I’ll just go see inglorious bastards and watch them kill Nazis.


11 posted on 08/05/2009 8:42:51 AM PDT by Armedanddangerous (I think youre so full of inconsolable rage you don't care who you hurt)
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To: Perdogg; Harley; Munson; Minipax; rarestia

I’m with rarestia on this one. The movie’s rah-rah patriotic and they don’t want it to be savaged by the usual PC, Amerikka-hating reviewers.

Paramount HAS shown it to an assortment of Fanboy internet reviewers AND shown it to a military audience at Andrews AFB.

Those audiences liked it and are setting the internet abuzz with word-of-mouth.

Sounds clever, if you ask me.


12 posted on 08/05/2009 8:43:18 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: Munson
When a film maker is scared to show a movie to the critics, it is usually a signal that the movie is a turd.

Not at all. Paramount knows nothing good will come from leftist movie reviews of a pro-patriotic, pro-American, God, guns, and apple pie movie, so they are going to let the public decide whether or not the movie reviews are positive or negative. To let your enemy test your product and cut the legs out from under you before you start selling it, isn't smart business. More power to Paramount, I say.

13 posted on 08/05/2009 8:43:35 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (CITIZENS OF LIBERTY! RISE UP AND DEFEAT THE EVIL BEAST, OBAMUNISM!)
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To: rarestia

I don’t think that’s the reason at all.


14 posted on 08/05/2009 8:43:38 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: rarestia
I’m betting it’s Pro-American...

It's not. It's the opposite. G.I. in this movie doesn't stand for Gov't issue. It stands for Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity. They didn't want to pander to Americans because they make more money overseas and it's a tough sell to Euroweenies and mooslimbs everywhere.

15 posted on 08/05/2009 8:43:54 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Perdogg
Bomb Pictures, Images and Photos

You'd think after "Van Helsing" and "Scorpion King" Stephen Sommers couldn't find work...

16 posted on 08/05/2009 8:44:32 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: rarestia

It’s not pro-American. The director and the liberal hacks who wrote it decided at the idea stage that GI Joe would NOT be a “Real American Hero” as we all remember from our youth. They changed the name to an acronym for Global Integrated Joint Operations Entity, a name that’s meaningless other than the fact that GI Joe is now a “global” force that reports to the UN and not our government. I believe they apologize to Cobra Commander for oppressing him somewhere in the story.


17 posted on 08/05/2009 8:44:33 AM PDT by jyoders19
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To: Perdogg
I can tell you why they didn't show it to critics...

GI Joe The Rise of Cobra

What's missing from that website...?

18 posted on 08/05/2009 8:44:42 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: rarestia

Interviews with the director and script leaks would indicated the exact opposite.


19 posted on 08/05/2009 8:46:49 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Snickering Hound

To enjoy his movies you have to view them for they really are;live action cartoons.


20 posted on 08/05/2009 8:47:06 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (Don't blame me,I voted for the American)
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To: mewzilla

the red white and blue


21 posted on 08/05/2009 8:47:19 AM PDT by Munson
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To: Melas

Not to mention the movie’s website.


22 posted on 08/05/2009 8:47:46 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Munson
Ding...ding...ding!!!

We have a winner! :)

23 posted on 08/05/2009 8:48:25 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: jyoders19

Ok! Ok! Ok! OK! OK! OKAY! OKAY! OKAY! Jesus... sorry I said anything. I didn’t research the film, and given what everyone says, I won’t be going either.

I haven’t spent money at the theater in years anyway. I’ll wait for the DVD (or the Torrent).


24 posted on 08/05/2009 8:50:05 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: sinanju

Yeah, Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity is so patriotic. Sorry, but this is the one world UN G.I. Joe, not an ounce of patriotism to be found.


25 posted on 08/05/2009 8:50:26 AM PDT by Melas
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To: rarestia
I’m betting it’s Pro-American... something the MSM likes to lambaste in today’s movies.

I've heard the opposite. There was some thread (would have to search for it) on here yesterday about how the director of the film stated that the movie is meant to be the "anti-George Bush" or some such nonsense. It supposedly has GI JOE being a UN team instead of "American heroes"

26 posted on 08/05/2009 8:50:27 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (We bury Democrats face down so that when they scratch, they get closer to home.)
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To: Perdogg

Stick a fork in this one.

Ducking critics is only done with the absolute worst films.

Awesome schadenfreude though.


27 posted on 08/05/2009 8:52:33 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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To: rarestia
Ok! Ok! Ok! OK! OK! OKAY! OKAY! OKAY! Jesus... sorry I said anything. I didn’t research the film, and given what everyone says, I won’t be going either.

Not good enough.

If you had researched the film, you wouldn't have been such a strident supporter of it.

But now we know.

28 posted on 08/05/2009 8:52:59 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: sinanju
Keep in mind that the latest Transformers movie got one-star reviews from many big critics because of its political incorrectness. Transformers went on to make 388M because viewers didn't care what the critics said. They may want to avoid this effect and have the film depend on word of mouth rather than reviews.
29 posted on 08/05/2009 8:56:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: Lazamataz

And knowing is half the battle.


30 posted on 08/05/2009 8:57:06 AM PDT by Feasor13
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To: rarestia

You echo my thoughts nicely. Ditto what you said!


31 posted on 08/05/2009 8:58:26 AM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: Feasor13; rarestia

rarestia is soooooo outed.


32 posted on 08/05/2009 8:59:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: mewzilla

Sgt. Slaughter?


33 posted on 08/05/2009 9:00:17 AM PDT by SteelCurtain_SSN720 (If you pass the rabid child, say "hammer down" for me)
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To: Perdogg
Has this ever not been a Bad Sign?
34 posted on 08/05/2009 9:00:23 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: jyoders19
Thanx - I'll save money and time, thanks to you.

Misleading title award of the year, I'd say.

First it'll turn off the anti-American Libs who aren't in the know, then it'll turn off the pro-American everyone else who are in the know.

35 posted on 08/05/2009 9:02:30 AM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: Perdogg

Translation:

We have a $300 Million TURD on our hands and we know it.


36 posted on 08/05/2009 9:04:19 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Perdogg

When the movie critics love a movie, it’s either a real dud or just flat out insulting to most Americans. When they hate the flick, it sells like hell. Easy guide to determine if it is worth the 10 bucks.


37 posted on 08/05/2009 9:09:54 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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And everyone who goes with a misguided idea of what the film is about will walk out of the theater feeling like they’ve been had and mislead.


38 posted on 08/05/2009 9:13:40 AM PDT by the anti-liberal
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To: rarestia
"I’m betting it’s Pro-American... something the MSM likes to lambaste in today’s movies."

I hardly think so.

The drones who made this movie intentionally removed the American theme in order to make way for globalist worldviews.

It will not be The Real American Hero that we all know and love.

This is GI Joe: A Real American Hero, who was an icon of patriotism throughout the 1980s:

The new movie has completely and totally removed the American theme in a manner similar to what "Superman Returns" did the the "Truth, Justice and The American Way" line from Superman.

39 posted on 08/05/2009 9:14:37 AM PDT by GI Joe Fan (GI Joe represents Real American Heroes, not a bunch of globalist drones.)
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To: Perdogg

There are several signs that this movie is a dog.

1. The release date. If the studio thought it was a bonafide hit, they would have released it in the May-July/Christmas timeframe with the other blockbusters.

2. Sienna Miller, one of the stars, has publicly been negative about the movie.

3. There are several articles about the troubles they have had editing this movie together to create a cohesive and clear plot.

4. It has TERRIBLE buzz from the industry.


40 posted on 08/05/2009 9:16:15 AM PDT by HelenaGrace
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To: Lazamataz

Being that I grew up with GI Joe in every aspect of my life (action figures, TV show, Halloween costumes, birthday party themes), I wanted to give the movie the benefit of the doubt. Thank you for correcting me.

I firmly stand behind the thought that this is a strategy by Paramount. They want more butts in the seats, and having it released before it makes it to the theaters would be suicide for the box office numbers.

Being outed? For what? A Paramount shill? Given that the MPAA is suing people for hundreds of thousands of dollars for sharing movies through Torrent networks, I think they’re a bunch of thieves and thugs a la Rahm Emanuel. I would prefer Paramount burn, but they are an organization in business to make money. Good for them for protecting their interests!


41 posted on 08/05/2009 9:19:19 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: rarestia
Being outed? For what?

Oh, YOU KNOW.

I am reporting you to the White House.

You are sooooo xrewed.

42 posted on 08/05/2009 9:20:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: Perdogg

Not a good sign for the quality of the pic

And here I thought it was the next Ben-Hur


43 posted on 08/05/2009 9:21:46 AM PDT by Unlikely Hero ("Time is a wonderful teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its pupils." --Berlioz)
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To: Lazamataz

*cycles action on CETME*

Send those racist community organizers my way. I’m looking forward to it.


44 posted on 08/05/2009 9:22:14 AM PDT by rarestia ("One man with a gun can control 100 without one." - Lenin / MOLWN LABE!)
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To: rarestia
Send those racist community organizers my way. I’m looking forward to it.

Here they come:


45 posted on 08/05/2009 9:27:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("If they taxed condoms and toilet paper, they'd have us coming and going." - Lazamataz, 2002)
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To: rarestia

I don’t know about Pro-American. Something was posted a couple days ago about the director did not want for Republicans to go see the movie (paraphrasing here).


46 posted on 08/05/2009 9:29:27 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: Snickering Hound
You'd think after "Van Helsing" and "Scorpion King" Stephen Sommers couldn't find work...

Hey, now just a dang minute! Scorpion King was a great...uh...was a good...well, an OK...

Never mind.

47 posted on 08/05/2009 9:31:40 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Texas resident
When the movie critics love a movie, it’s either a real dud or just flat out insulting to most Americans. When they hate the flick, it sells like hell. Easy guide to determine if it is worth the 10 bucks.

You must have really loved Gigli.

48 posted on 08/05/2009 9:32:51 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: rarestia
They want more butts in the seats, and having it released before it makes it to the theaters would be suicide for the box office numbers.

Critics typically aren't given screener copies of a new movie. What usually happens is that a week or so before the release the critics are invited to special screenings in a screening room somewhere, with security and studio marketing people in attendance. In a big city, they might do two screenings to get as many critics in as possible. Then they have a few days to write their reviews before they're published on the same Friday that the movie's released.

For the studio, showing this kind of movie to critics has no upside. You can bet that they're going to hate it just for being a big, dumb, loud action movie, and there's a good chance that the movie isn't going to do very well. What they can hope for is a big opening weekened, especially on Friday before any word of mouth can get around. Reviews will only dilute the Friday numbers.

49 posted on 08/05/2009 9:35:00 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("i'm FREQUENTLY wrong"--Stand Watie)
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To: Lazamataz

You did get me to laugh at that.

And that line is in the movie. I think if I were an actor and offered a role in the movie, I would want getting that line to be in my contract.

I’m wondering how much the fact that it is a worldwide force is going to be played up in the movie though. The only Joes that get any screen time appear to be Americans playing Americans except Snake Eyes, but there aren’t a lot of Americans who can do what Ray Park can and Snake Eyes doesn’t talk anyway.

It appears that people who have seen it love it for the explosions and all of that good stuff. At least it hasn’t been described as raping anyone’s childhood like Transformers 2 was.


50 posted on 08/05/2009 9:38:41 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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