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Buy a new computer with Windows XP?
July 1, 2009

Posted on 07/01/2009 6:33:40 AM PDT by reaganaut1

I have a computer with Windows Vista but prefer Windows XP. Who sells new computers with XP? I think such vendors must exist, because my company still uses XP and presumably buys computers for new employees.


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1 posted on 07/01/2009 6:33:40 AM PDT by reaganaut1
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To: reaganaut1

Dell does, but you may have to go to the commercial side.


2 posted on 07/01/2009 6:35:29 AM PDT by SouthTexas (Waterboard Pelosi NOW!)
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To: reaganaut1; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; Salo; Bobsat; JosephW; ...

3 posted on 07/01/2009 6:36:06 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: reaganaut1

Just bought a new ASUS netbook from Amazon.com that comes pre-loaded with Windows XP. Great for traveling.


4 posted on 07/01/2009 6:36:49 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Caligula's horse as Senator was smarter than our current Congress)
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To: reaganaut1

Go to the Dell website. They offer a “Windows XP downgrade” for free with many of their offers.


5 posted on 07/01/2009 6:37:17 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: reaganaut1

Try dell.com or Best Buy, but I’m not sure if Best Buy still does XP anymore.

I haven’t ever had any issues with a Vista system, but I’m just a local fix-it computer guy.

Only problems I’ve ever seen with Vista, i.e., major, “show-stopper” problems, is that a certain percentage of folks have trouble installing a printer properly with Vista (usually HP brand printer).


6 posted on 07/01/2009 6:37:32 AM PDT by library user
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To: reaganaut1

frys.com


7 posted on 07/01/2009 6:38:16 AM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: reaganaut1

CDW.com

They have hundreds to choose from. I think they’re fairly common everywhere. The catch is you’re not going to get the XP disks, or even a recovery disk. If you lunch the system, you can only reinstall Vista.


8 posted on 07/01/2009 6:38:26 AM PDT by Jack of all Trades (Stop the change - I want to get off!)
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To: reaganaut1

The Win 7 beta is pretty nice, as well as being free.


9 posted on 07/01/2009 6:39:27 AM PDT by rahbert ("...but Rush....but Rush...")
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To: reaganaut1

Just upgrade to Windows 7 when it comes out.


10 posted on 07/01/2009 6:39:58 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: reaganaut1

Go local.

Most of your local custom PC shops do it.


11 posted on 07/01/2009 6:40:04 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: reaganaut1

You can purchase XP versions from software vendors. It should be around $125.


12 posted on 07/01/2009 6:40:11 AM PDT by dbwz (DISSENT IS PATRIOTIC)
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To: rahbert

Win 7 has been working great for me for 2 months now.

Vist actually works weel if you take the time to learn it and WIn 7 is an extension of VISTa.

Buying a new computer and putting XP on it is like buying a new car, removing the radial tires and replacing them, at your own cost, with bias plies. XP is a 10 year-old OS

Do you own research - Vista is better than XP and Win & is better than Vista


13 posted on 07/01/2009 6:42:00 AM PDT by PaForBush
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To: library user

“Only problems I’ve ever seen with Vista, i.e., major, “show-stopper” problems, is that a certain percentage of folks have trouble installing a printer properly with Vista (usually HP brand printer).”

Yes and I can tell you how maddening it is to have your brand new HP computer refuse to work with your brand new HP printer. In my case the printer kept printing the same doc sporadically over several days.

I forget what I had to turn off but whatever it was they could have configured the computer to do that. I did solve it eventually but man.


14 posted on 07/01/2009 6:42:36 AM PDT by Williams (It's The Policies, Stupid.)
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To: reaganaut1

Tiger Direct bought CompUSA’s assets. They run some CompUSA stores plus sell Tiger Direct and CompUSA online.

They sell new HP machines with XP Pro.

http://www.compusa.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=1815&name=XP%20Professional%20PCs

You will probably have to go with XP Pro but it is almost identical to XP.


15 posted on 07/01/2009 6:42:41 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: reaganaut1
Lenovo, Dell, MSI, ASUS. You have to look for them, though.

Frankly, I'd just wait for Win7. We've been testing it at work and it's fairly impressive. We even slapped it on a old Dell P3 with one gig of ram it ran every bit as well as XP did on the machine.

16 posted on 07/01/2009 6:43:05 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: rahbert

Win 7 has been working great for me for 2 months now.

Vista actually works well if you take the time to learn it and WIn 7 is an extension of Vistaa.

Buying a new computer and putting XP on it is like buying a new car, removing the radial tires and replacing them, at your own cost, with bias plies. XP is a 10 year-old OS

Do your own research - Vista is better than XP and Win 7 is better than Vista.


17 posted on 07/01/2009 6:43:10 AM PDT by PaForBush
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To: AppyPappy

He will need the higher end Windows 7 because MSFT foolishly is not putting XP emulation on the lower end versions of Windows 7.


18 posted on 07/01/2009 6:44:16 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: reaganaut1
I went to the local MicroCenter store a few months ago and got one of their last copies of XP disks that they sold to people building their own systems. You might find a copy of the disks that way. Just tell the salesman you are building your own PC and need an XP operating system for it.
19 posted on 07/01/2009 6:45:51 AM PDT by chimera
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To: reaganaut1

My WalMart has eMachines with Windows XP.


20 posted on 07/01/2009 6:48:53 AM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: Frantzie

Pre-order Windows 7 at a discount and put up with Vista for a couple of more months.

http://promotions.newegg.com/Microsoft/Windows7/PreSale/index.html?cm_sp=Homepage_Top_Right-_-Windows7/PreSale-_-http%3a%2f%2fpromotions.newegg.com%2fMicrosoft%2fWindows7%2fPreSale%2f362x130.jpg

One of the problems with Vista is that it came with a bunch of computer dummy features turned on that really reduce performance. See below for tweaks

http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/supertweaks.htm

Windows 7 is going to be the best of the best operating systems. Really stable and user/hardware friendly.


21 posted on 07/01/2009 6:49:47 AM PDT by Wooly
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To: reaganaut1

Good luck finding new computers with XP already installed. Microsoft stopped support on XP in April of this year. (Extended support - which you have to pay for - is available until next year I believe.)


22 posted on 07/01/2009 6:51:49 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: reaganaut1

Walmart, emachine 299.00, I bought last year this time, my work can’t handle Vista.


23 posted on 07/01/2009 6:57:27 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: reaganaut1

Vista is really wonderful you are just too stupid to realize it and it’s your fault for not wanting to spend hours/days upgrading your hardware/software.

- From the Microsoft salesmen that always show up in these thread


24 posted on 07/01/2009 6:59:02 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: reaganaut1

Most any computer vender has two software options - Home and Business.

Home is Vista
Business will be XP.

Getting the Business package will not get you the teenager bells and whistles, just a good, working platform.


25 posted on 07/01/2009 7:00:53 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: qam1

“Vista is really wonderful you are just too stupid to realize it and it’s your fault for not wanting to spend hours/days upgrading your hardware/software.”

Ain’t that the truth!


26 posted on 07/01/2009 7:12:22 AM PDT by old school
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To: reaganaut1
You might check with smaller vendors. My sister-in-law bought an Acer laptop and the shop where she bought it wipes out Vista and installs Windows XP on everything they sell. The owners said that Vista is so problematic they will continue to do this as long as they can still get legal copies of XP. You might also look to a custom builder (desktop) as they too might still give you the choice of XP.

Note Microsoft is now beta testing Windows 7, Vista's replacement. Supposed to become available by fall. I think Vista might be another Windows ME.

27 posted on 07/01/2009 7:12:29 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: reaganaut1

Read later.


28 posted on 07/01/2009 7:13:35 AM PDT by EagleMamaMT ("Uncle Sugar: Handle it at the border or Uncle Winchester will handle it at the porch." Squantos)
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To: All

You could also embrace the ‘Darkside’,
either use bit torrent or binary newsgroups, there are versions of XP which can use auto-update without a problem and do not require registration.


29 posted on 07/01/2009 7:14:49 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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To: reaganaut1

You really have 2 excellent choices - buy a tricked out Vista machine and get the free Windows 7 download from Microsoft and run it. You will be AMAZED! Or you can wait 3 months till Windows 7 units come flying out. 7 is Wonderful!


30 posted on 07/01/2009 7:24:41 AM PDT by cqnc (Don't Blame ME, I voted for the American!)
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To: qam1
Vista is really wonderful you are just too stupid to realize it and it’s your fault for not wanting to spend hours/days upgrading your hardware/software.

- From the Microsoft salesmen that always show up in these thread

So are you refuting the charge that you're too stupid to install Vista? Or are you agreeing with the "Microsoft salesmen"?

31 posted on 07/01/2009 7:34:33 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (ABC-AP-MSNBC-All Obama, All the time.)
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To: reaganaut1

Microsoft has actually banned them from offering new machines with XP installed (but they have come up with a faux-XP, a version of Vista with the look and feel of XP, for commercial customers who bitch and moan enough)


32 posted on 07/01/2009 7:38:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: reaganaut1

I have been running vista for over a year now without any issues whatsoever, except that a coupla of my older printers would not work with it....and a few programs, but they were older too


33 posted on 07/01/2009 7:39:18 AM PDT by joe fonebone (When you ask God for help, sometimes he sends the Marines.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

BTTT


34 posted on 07/01/2009 7:39:45 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: qam1

Vista is really wonderful you are just too stupid to realize it and it’s your fault for not wanting to spend hours/days upgrading your hardware/software

^^^
Truer words and all that. I used Microsoft for 20 years in my business; Vista finally cured me. Couldn’t run a new printer or ANY program that didn’t come installed.

Gave the piece of c**p to our son and he has a smoking Unix machine now. We switched to Macs. Should have done it years ago.


35 posted on 07/01/2009 7:40:24 AM PDT by abbi_normal_2
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To: reaganaut1

Do you have a licensed copy of Windows XP?
If so you can run it on a new PC (preferrably one with Win 7).

You can use Virtual Machine to run older versions of Windows on it - even Win98
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/


36 posted on 07/01/2009 7:49:09 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( Don't mess with the mockingbird! /\/\ http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: Wooly

It needs XP emulation to make consumers happy. They only are offering it on the high end - it should be on all versions.


37 posted on 07/01/2009 7:49:18 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie

Of course you can still buy a copy of XP just look on pricewatch. com or Newegg.com.


38 posted on 07/01/2009 7:51:36 AM PDT by Wooly
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To: Frantzie

Of course you can still buy a copy of XP just look on pricewatch. com or Newegg.com.


39 posted on 07/01/2009 7:51:43 AM PDT by Wooly
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To: reaganaut1

Just bought a Dell Inspiron 15 laptop, and I had a choice of which OS I wanted.


40 posted on 07/01/2009 7:56:50 AM PDT by KYGrandma
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To: reaganaut1

I just got a nice “E-Machine”....not too expensive and was glad that it had XP instead of Vista....


41 posted on 07/01/2009 7:59:34 AM PDT by geege
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To: reaganaut1
linuxman2

There is a third choice.

42 posted on 07/01/2009 8:01:44 AM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: reaganaut1

I’ve been using Vista at home on three computers and it has worked fine. But I upgraded to the trial version of Windows 7 recently on my laptop which I am using now. It can be purchased for $49.95 for a limited time and the free version will continue to operate just fine until March 2010 at which time it will shut down at periodic intervals reminding people to upgrade. You have burn a disc and install it but it was pretty seamless to be truthful. I think it will be fine and in my opinion a good deal better than XP. I think this whole XP/Vista controversy is a lot of nothing except for corporate users and dedicated software. For most software home Vista users will do just fine as will Windows 7.

BTW, I’m no computer wizard but the Windows 7 download went rather well. Time consuming but I’m glad I did it. Looks pretty good to me. But again I had no problems with Vista either.

I will probably put Windows 7 on all three home computers. I also use Firefox and Thunderbird. Works fine.


43 posted on 07/01/2009 8:24:06 AM PDT by RichardW
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To: PaForBush

Well stated. I couldn’t agree more.


44 posted on 07/01/2009 8:25:28 AM PDT by RichardW
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To: peyton randolph

That looks awesome! Thanks for the tip. I may just get one.


45 posted on 07/01/2009 8:29:35 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

Glad to help. Very pleased with the netbook. Note that it only comes with a trial version of MSOffice. Means you’ll either need to pay for that if you want it or use free OpenOffice instead. I installed OpenOffice, Thunderbird, AVG free, and several other applications. All have worked well.


46 posted on 07/01/2009 9:02:37 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Caligula's horse as Senator was smarter than our current Congress)
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To: Jonah Johansen; reaganaut1

> You could also embrace the ‘Darkside’,
either use bit torrent or binary newsgroups, there are versions of XP which can use auto-update without a problem and do not require registration.<

...this “friend that I know” (cough)has 5 versions of XP thru mininova. MOST of them dont’ need registration plus 1 of them amazingly was created with the Vista Aero interface. why 5? For future events from MS that will eventually outlaw XP.


47 posted on 07/01/2009 11:24:52 AM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

How does your friend know the pirated versions of XP aren’t security compromised? They could be monitoring keystrokes for logins and passwords.


48 posted on 07/01/2009 11:46:50 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Microsoft is the Linux salesforce of the year!)
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To: reaganaut1
Here are some possibilities:

Option 1. Buy a new PC with XP Pro installed
I went to Tiger Direct, which sells a lot of computer hardware and software but only via the Internet. According to their listing, they sell 93 laptop models with XP Pro and 104 desktop models with XP Home or Pro.
Other vendors will have these too. Look around the 'Net.

Option 2. Buy a new PC, nuke the hard drive to get rid of Vista, and install a clean copy of XP
A number of vendors, including Newegg and Tiger Direct, still sell OEM versions of XP Pro and even XP Home.

Option 3. Buy a Vista PC which has a "downgrade" XP option
You pay the vendor for the downgrade, of course.

Option 4. Convert your existing Vista PC to a dual-boot Vista/Windows 7 machine
Easy to do on a Vista system. Right-click on My Computer, left-click Manage, and then left-click Disk Management to show the existing partitions on the drive. Right-click on the C: drive (Vista partition) and shrink it by 20 GB. Then download the Windows 7 Release Candidate ISO file to your PC, burn it onto a DVD, and use the DVD to install Windows 7 in the new partition. The machine will now dual-boot, with Windows 7 being the default system. You will doubtless see a performance improvement of 7 over Vista. Who knows? Maybe you'll be happier with 7 than Vista.

Option 5. Same as Option 4 except install XP instead of 7
49 posted on 07/01/2009 12:22:37 PM PDT by normanpubbie
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To: SouthTexas
Dell small business is THE way to buy the Dell.

Yes, XP is available.
More importantly the service support is excellent and for small business purchases, the tech support is exclusively US based, not India.

50 posted on 07/01/2009 12:38:18 PM PDT by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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