Skip to comments.Two Simple Facts Prove Roswell UFO is Real
Posted on 06/14/2009 11:40:12 AM PDT by JoeProBono
It is time once again for the annual Roswell UFO Festival, July 2-5. This is, in my opinion, the top UFO-related event in the world, because the Roswell incident of 1947 has proven to be definitive in validating the UFO phenomenon.
Skeptics refuse to accept this, and even believers don't seem to realize just what it is about the Roswell story that proves UFOs are real. The debate just goes on and on, on radio talk shows mostly, although the solution has been right out in the open since the public was first informed, back on July 8, 1947.
The continuing performances of dedicated skeptics deriding UFOs is a monstrous fraud upon the public, which the public has been witless enough to let pass, because it has had little incentive and therefore little abiding interest in focusing upon the certain but supremely awkward truth.
The facts that prove the reality of the UFO crash near Roswell are these (and they are deceptively simple, so listen closely): 1) The military itself reported the crash to the world media as genuine,
and 2) The day after the initial public release of the story, higher military authority changed that story, claiming that the wreckage recovered was in fact a weather balloon array, mistaken for alien material by the Roswell air field personnel.
Why do these facts prove the UFO? Because both the intelligence officer and commanding officer of the Roswell military post examined the wreckage and confirmed its alien nature. (I won't dwell on the details here. You can best get them on roswellufomuseum.com and other sites dedicated to the event.)
These officers, with the added concurrence of the post's information officer, put out to the world the original story that they had retrieved a bonafide UFO of non-man-made materials.
These were the top officers of a wartime bomber group, one of the most serious occupations in the world. (If you haven't been in the military and don't know just how serious it was and is, in and out of war, check out the movie "Twelve O'Clock High", made in 1949 about a wartime bomber group.)
They would not begin to think of fooling around with such a story, they would have to have been insane to risk both their own and, even worse, the military's reputations. They were entirely professional and competent. They would not have identified the craft as alien without overwhelming evidence.
They were sincere in their identification and honest and quick in sending out the story to the world. These career military officers were never impugned in their character, honesty or on-going competence in their duties.
Military higher-ups did, however, impugn their basic competence to recognize military hardware, when they issued pictures of the intelligence officer, Jesse Marcel, with supposed crash material, in which that material was obviously flimsy tin foil attached to thin wooden sticks - a childish fake, perpetrated upon an all-too-trusting public more than ready to laugh rather than look closely, in the years following a long and desperate war.
The Roswell officers went along with this deception, under orders, but the issuing of this obviously flimsy story in fact proved the reality of the UFO, because it is simply inconceivable that a competent army intelligence officer, of a wartime bomber group (post-World War II, in 1947, but into the Cold War by then), would not see what any teenage model builder could see was faked "crash" material......
3. The author has never worked with the military, the government nor any other huge bureaucracy.....
Also if it was just a weather balloon, why cover it up and force Marcel to pose with obvious cellophane an sticks.
Actually there are three facts. The third is that John Denver was born in Roswell almost 9 months to the day after the crash.
That one seals it for me.
The best part is, these "special" binoculars only cost $3,500.00
What a deal!!
Yes but Denver went out in a plane crash, not a weather balloon. Explain that one!
I worked in Roswell twice in 2001 and got to visit the hanger area where the craft was supposedly taken at first. I also talked with several local folks my age that were kids when all of this happened in 1947. To a person they all told the same story; their parents were threatened by the military with physical harm if they talked about the crash. I personally believe that those Germans that we relocated down there after World War II (the ones that had conducted the horrific high altitude decompression tests on live prisoners) had something to do with the saucer and the mutated things inside.
Still that does not provide proof. If anything it goes in the opposite direction. In the run up to dropping the bomb, the 509th had had to deal with leaks, security risks, and curious snoops. They developed both security measures and disinformation techniques. They would never have simply released details about a flying saucer. The level of classification would have been extraordinary. But they may have created a disinformation to cover something else, like the high altitude baloons being deployed to observe Soviet atomic tests.
Oh my gosh. Do you know what you are implying??? The strong implication is that an alien was doing unspeakable things with John Denver’s mother. Oh my gosh. I can’t get my arms around that one.
Rocky Mountain High!
Yes, it really was an unidentified flying somethingorother.
You said — Actually there are three facts. The third is that John Denver was born in Roswell almost 9 months to the day after the crash.
Ummmm..., Al Gore was born about 9 months after the Roswell incident. I don’t know where, though... LOL...
How else can you explain John Denver?
I meant 1947 when the event was reported. I must have been thinking of the number of states in the union
I have no doubt there is life elsewhere in this galaxy; it never visited New Mexico however.
I’d love it if there were spacecraft from other worlds coming to earth for a visit. My problem is that, with thousands of reported sightings and indirect evidence, there’s no concrete proof of anything alien.
Also, I’m skeptical because if there was one visit, say, the Roswell incident, by aliens, why the heck haven’t they come back for another visit?
I'm laughing here. Did they use their UFO intel recognition cards to identify it? People get corrected the next day, week, month, all the time.
Additionally, the Newspaper strikes me as odd. Would a credible story of an alien space ship recovery in one's home town really get pushed to the right by "Movies as Usual", an international meeting in Paris, stacked court martials, tax cuts AND a UN arms reduction recommendation? I think not.
An overly excitable reaction by the AAF personnel and/or a local Barney Fife type reporter are more likely.
Here we go again.
Yes, it was a real Top Secret Mogul balloon intended to detect Soviet atomic tests.
The world would be a more interesting place if aliens had crashed at Roswell, but it didn’t happen. But it seems that for some people the idea that it did is impossible to give up.
Classified project with new materials and technology.
Not every person in government or the military is aware of every project out there.
Ahhhhhh. . .that is what “they” want you to believe.
These work just as well and are alot cheaper.
Onerom99 hasn’t created an about page.
I am with you. I don’t know one single person who has claimed to have seen a UFO or have any report of a friend of theirs seeing one. I have met a lot of people in my 69 years and not one has any personal knowledge of alien aircraft.
Same with Bigfoot, there should be some evidence, a skeleton, a dead body, something. In this day when everyone has a phone with a camera, some convincing pictures should show up. I am willing to believe if I see evidence of either one, but I haven’t.
Now ghosts, that is another story.
I STILL think the best book ever written about the whole Roswell thing is: Carey, Thomas, and Donald R. Schmitt, ‘Witness to Roswell’. If you’re even the slightest bit interested in the event, this is THE book to read.
And it’s sufficiently well-written that it’ll appeal also to those who aren’t too terribly interested in such things, but are simply looking for a “good read” for the summer hammock, the airport waiting lounge or the flight, or the beach. It’s a lot of fun, by any standard.
THAT’S the one!
Dirty person! It was telepathic. He filled up her senses. Nothing physical.
parsy, who knows about such things.
At first I skimmed through it as I thought is was another conspiracy theory. It turned out to be quite the opposite, and convinced me it wasn't a UFO crash.
The author points out some interesting items:
While the event happened in 1947, it didn't catch fire until Stanton Friedman gave a UFO talk in the '70s and someone told him to "talk to Jesse Martell's kid.".
The "spaceship" was a balloon with a monitoring device. The Army had trouble tracking it so they added diamond-shaped reflectors made out of balsa sticks and aluminum foil and Kraft paper.
The manufacturer of said reflectors made toys and used some of its old wrapping tape to tape the aluminum paper to the sticks - the tape had little kiddie symbols like half moons, stars, etc. which was later interpreted as "hieroglyphics". The scientists involved in the project joked on how a super secret device used parts made by a toy manufacturer.
The mortician who said the USAAF ordered "child-size" coffins was proved a liar. The Nurse he said told him about the bodies conveniently was "killed in an air crash" - only no nurses were killed that way during that time period. Then the guy said she "might have joined a convent and took an oath of silence". (I kid you not.)
The napkin that had her drawing of the "alien" was "accidentally" tossed out a few days before the interview.
Instead of fading, memories of those involved sharpened over the years.
Researchers used books by other "investigators" for reference instead of going back to the basic reports/documents, much like the Bermuda Triangle industry does.
Bottom line: The govt had a secret spy balloon go down in the NM desert and tromped on its own crank trying to cover it up.
Kal Korff’s book is as you say very good.
I read it and Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr.’s book, to get two sides of the story.
Korff’s book, and Kent Jeffrey’s web article ( http://www.roswellfiles.com/storytellers/KentJeffrey1.htm )
present overwhelming evidence that what crashed near Roswell was a Mogul balloon.
Dr Marcel is a sincere man, and a patriot who has served this nation long and well. But I believe that his perceptions as a ten year ten month old boy in July 1947 were mistaken. The phenomenon of subjective perception is sometimes called “The Rashomon effect”, after the famous Japanese film.
If the little green men were technologically advanced enough to get here, I would think that they’d be technologically advanced enough not to crash. But that’s just me.
UFO “A” PING LIST PING.
Thanks for your affirmation of the truth of the story.
The German angle has certainly plenty of mystery and unknowns left to it.
The stuff about the Germans and Antarctica that you can find on the net . . . incredible. Who knows what’s true.
I think your assumptions are far from . . . fool proof.
What a farce as Stanton Friedman has handily demonstrated.
The Mogul dummies were not used AT ALL until 1953—well AFTER Rosewell.
1947, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952 . . .
ding ding ding, 1953 . . . comes AFTER 1947—well after.
I have no doubt there is life elsewhere in this galaxy; it never visited New Mexico however.
I’m wiht you . The “proof “ given here is NOT proof at all.
That’s still one of your best image posts.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.