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Did Comets Contain Key Ingredients For Life On Earth?
ScienceDaily ^ | April 29, 2009 | Adapted from materials provided by Tel Aviv University

Posted on 06/06/2009 10:52:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

While investigating the chemical make-up of comets, Prof. Akiva Bar-Nun of the Department of Geophysics and Planetary Sciences at Tel Aviv University found they were the source of missing ingredients needed for life in Earth's ancient primordial soup. "When comets slammed into the Earth through the atmosphere about four billion years ago, they delivered a payload of organic materials to the young Earth, adding materials that combined with Earth's own large reservoir of organics and led to the emergence of life," says Prof. Bar-Nun.

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To: djf
Noting that you're being rather satire-challenged doesn't quite approach the level of an attack, djf.

I was rather amused at the external, sudden nature of this event proposed by Prof. Bar-Nun, and found unintended parallels with Genesis 1:1. That is why I chose to spoof Bar-Nun's quasi-religious notion involving primordial soup and his proposed Great Comet.

Biblically speaking, from Genesis, the forms of life appeared in a particular order, with aquatic creatures and birds first among the moving creatures. It's a distinction that is garbled in the translation that you chose to cite, which mistakenly attributes motion to the waters. Before aquatic creatures and birds came grasses, seed-yielding herbs and fruit trees ... fixed, planted in place, not moving. These creatures appeared after their kind, which does not imply newness of the creature, as they were of a known type ... prototype, perhaps.

New to the earth, yes. But, not new to God.

21 posted on 06/06/2009 11:52:18 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Right Brother
Dang! Beat me to it...

My 1963 is spacious front and back, and no head rests or floor shifter to get in the way!

22 posted on 06/06/2009 11:52:43 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the sting of truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: boycott
They have all the answers but yet cannot even answer the most basic questions on the orgins of life.

....and I assume you can?

23 posted on 06/06/2009 11:54:09 AM PDT by cerberus
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To: Right Brother; PugetSoundSoldier

The '61 Comet of legend.....and.....sporty green '72 Comet.
24 posted on 06/06/2009 12:27:28 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: SunkenCiv
From the article

It was the chemical composition of comets, Prof. Bar-Nun believes, that allowed them to kickstart life. He has published his theory widely in scientific journals, including recently in the journal Icarus.

Already reached the status of scientific theory has it? What's all this nonsense about reproducibility, experimentation, duplication, and falsifiability then?

25 posted on 06/06/2009 1:16:16 PM PDT by AndrewC (Metanoia)
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To: AndrewC
Already reached the status of scientific theory has it? What's all this nonsense about reproducibility, experimentation, duplication, and falsifiability then?

EXACTLY, sheer nonsense! All that is dismissed when it suits liberal sensistivities but let something even remotely impact liberals over their relationship with God, THEN all that suddenly is relevant again.

It's about God, not science. Liberals project-alot.

26 posted on 06/06/2009 1:32:44 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
All that is dismissed when it suits liberal sensistivities but let something even remotely impact liberals over their relationship with God, THEN all that suddenly is relevant again.

What is truly remarkable is that it is easy for such persons to accept a quantum fluctuation in whatever producing an entire universe involving superluminal expansion yet those same people probably laugh at the thought of a few fish and loaves coming from fewer fish and loaves.

27 posted on 06/06/2009 1:43:13 PM PDT by AndrewC (Metanoia)
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To: SunkenCiv

I once owned a Comet. It was from Mercury and it too crashed into the earth leaving behind trace elements of front fender.


28 posted on 06/06/2009 3:50:47 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: SunkenCiv
.......missing ingredients needed for life in Earth's ancient primordial soup.

Where did the "Earth's primordial soup" come from..hmmmmm???

Did these large, complex, organic molecules, and biomolecules supposedly making up this primordial soup just willy-nilly synthesize themselves from inorganic precursers for no particular reason?

And even if complex organic molecules did synthesize themselves (doubtful given the stoichiometry/kinetics/thermodynamics involved) why wouldn't they just degrade and detoriate in a few days, weeks, or months like all modern organics do?

Just curious because someone should really explain how this "primordial soup" starting material got here.

29 posted on 06/06/2009 4:27:26 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mogollon

I’m just curious why you’d ask a religious question in a science topic.


30 posted on 06/06/2009 8:53:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: count-your-change

;’)


31 posted on 06/06/2009 8:53:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

Did earth?


32 posted on 06/06/2009 8:57:24 PM PDT by airborne (If I'm a right wing extremist, does that make FreeRepublic a terrorist training camp?)
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To: Perdogg

Thanks Perdogg.


33 posted on 06/06/2009 9:12:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: ciwwaf

Thank you!


34 posted on 06/06/2009 9:12:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: airborne

Nope, that’s Bar-Nun’s point. :’)


35 posted on 06/06/2009 10:04:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv
"When comets slammed into the Earth through the atmosphere about four billion years ago, they delivered a payload of organic materials to the young Earth, adding materials that combined with Earth's own large reservoir of organics ...

So comets had organic material, earth had organic material, one crashed into the other 4 billion years ago, but the bigger one couldn't have possibly developed life on it's own without the help of the smaller one?

And because he has a degree, he must know what he's talking about...

Oh, wait. It's in the form of a question. He's either on Jeopardy or he's just making an educated guess!

I'll take "Pompous Know-It-All's" for $200 Alex!

36 posted on 06/06/2009 10:13:38 PM PDT by airborne (If I'm a right wing extremist, does that make FreeRepublic a terrorist training camp?)
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To: airborne

Direct your hostility toward someone else, thanks.


37 posted on 06/07/2009 6:29:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

It was directed at the author of the story, not you.

Sorry if I wasn’t clear.


38 posted on 06/07/2009 9:32:46 AM PDT by airborne (If I'm a right wing extremist, does that make FreeRepublic a terrorist training camp?)
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To: AndrewC
What is truly remarkable is that it is easy for such persons to accept a quantum fluctuation in whatever producing an entire universe involving superluminal expansion yet those same people probably laugh at the thought of a few fish and loaves coming from fewer fish and loaves.

Another excellent observation.

39 posted on 06/07/2009 2:23:53 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: AndrewC
"From the article:

"It was the chemical composition of comets, Prof. Bar-Nun believes, that allowed them to kickstart life. He has published his theory widely in scientific journals, including recently in the journal Icarus.

"Already reached the status of scientific theory has it? What's all this nonsense about reproducibility, experimentation, duplication, and falsifiability then?"

By definition, a "theory" is a "confirmed hypothesis." But confirmed by what, and how? And just who says, "yup, that's confirmed"?

Here's my theory: for sake of their already minuscule circulations, scientific journals don't want to talk about "hypotheses," much less "some scientist's wet dream," so they call anything and everything laying by the side of the road "a new scientific theory."

Of course, that makes it harder to distinguish the Real Thing when it (rarely) comes along. Also makes it harder to tell faux scientists (aka "creationists") that their "theories" are just religion.

But, they've got to sell their magazines, so what's a little blurring of distinctions amongst friends?

40 posted on 06/07/2009 3:18:39 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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