Posted on 05/14/2008 4:57:05 AM PDT by rubyliu
Thank you for all the people who take care of the earthquake in China!
I am a student in Dalian, a city in the north of China,I never feel the quake here untill now.
But I see the whole society ,include the students, companies and goverment are trying their best to help the people in Sichuan province.
I just want to talk about the facts besides me after the earthquake.
Now I have donate all my money in the phone account as well as my classmates, although it is less than 100 yuan.
The whole university is statistic the student list whose family is in Sichuan Area.
There is a widely disscussed passage between in students.
以下信息是由chinaz李典新从现场记者目击地震后中现场发回的聊天记录，目击现场目击温总理实况：
The follwing information is the chat, supplied by the reporter of chinaz ,Lidianxin, who have witnessed the scene after the earthquake .
绮梦(3603*****) 10:07:29 现场简直不能看了
qimeng(3603*****) 10:07:29 I can not stand the disaster scene.
绮梦(3603*****) 10:08:33 年过花甲的总理已经哭得不成样子了
qimeng(3603*****) 10:08:33 The president is crying.
绮梦(3603*****) 10:10:16 刚刚挖开的地方又塌方了
qimeng(3603*****) 10:10:16 The area just opened landslided again.
绮梦(3603*****) 10:11:24 这倒霉天气还在下雨，现在一线的军人已经被下达死命令，必须冒雨解救
qimeng(3603*****)10:11:24 It is raining now, the frontline soldiers have been issued an order to save the people in the rain.
绮梦(3603*****) 10:11:56 我现在是在都江堰市
qimeng(3603*****)10:11:56 I am in the DujiangYan City
绮梦(3603*****) 10:13:24 交通已经瘫痪了，人员和物资很难运进去
qimeng(3603*****)10:13:24 Traffic has been paralyzed, and difficult to transport goods into.
绮梦(3603*****) 10:13:47 汶川现在还不让我们去
qimeng(3603*****)10:13:47 Now we can not go to Wenchuan area.
绮梦(3603*****) 10:15:21 汶川的交通完全封闭了，现场到底怎么样我不知道，不过早上总理指示军队不管有多大代 价，必须进城
qimeng(3603*****) the closure the traffic of Wenchuan has completely closure, I do not know how kind the scene there, but the Prime Minister instructed the soliders no matter how difficult,must be get into Whenchuan city.
National Geographic's monthly rag has dedicated this month to only China coverage. If anyone is worried about the future of education in the US, read about how Chinese students are going to leapfrog all others.
The genie is definitely out!
No, FR is not blocked or flitered in China (just ask any of the many Freepers who has posted from China while traveling or are currently living / working here). Don’t think it ever has been blocked or flitered in my experience.
Mainland Chinese has pretty much unfettered access to major western media / political / news forums (one interesting aspect of Chinese censorship - it’s more focused on monitoring access to Chinese internal sites as well as some overseas Chinese language sites, but not external non-Chinese sites).
Most English literate Chinese people (and that’s growing by a lot these days, including pretty much anyone who is college educated, and ever more so since English classes are now mandatory from 5th grade onward) are keenly aware and interested in how the West sees China and how news about China are reported and discussed in the West.
For sure a lot of my collegues in Shanghai are spending their spare time at work surfing the net and checking out international news coverage.
So, to answer your question, they are here to see and hear how the world is reacting. And no, they’re not just on FR (maybe it seems that way to you if you only hang out here), they are on pretty much all the major English language news forums (check out the comments on news stories relating to Chinese quake on all the alphabet network news internet sites, BBC, NYTimes ... blah, blah, etc, heck, they are all over YouTube too).
English language websites don't get a lot of attention*. Something like 99.99% of Chinese can't function in the English language, although some do get lessons from Chinese teachers of English who can't function in English either. Given that English is taught mainly in Chinese - one textbook I saw had something like 80% Chinese characters, and 20% broken English sentences - it's not exactly surprising. Have you had high school Spanish? How many times have you looked up Spanish websites, let alone try to read the articles within? The Chinese get much lower-quality English language instruction.
* National Review, Weekly Standard and Free Republic are all available there. What you can't access are Chinese language websites based in Hong Kong, Taiwan and other places where the content can't be censored by the Chinese authorities. At the same time, note that much of this censorship doesn't matter. The average Chinese is more likely to believe the government than he is to believe other sources. This is kind of the reverse of the way many Americans feel about Uncle Sam's pronouncements. Once you've gone through the Chinese educational system, which stresses Chinese superiority, achievements and territorial conquests (presented as efforts to civilize the natives) to the exclusion of everything outside China, while simultaneously presenting overwrought and one-sided accounts of Chinese defeats by foreign countries, you're inclined to distrust the Western barbarians, however you might react to them on a personal level.
here is another FReeper from mainland CHina...in fact, there are many FReepers from mannland China....as we know ,there are 250 million netizens in CHina.
only the epicenter’s net has been blocked
the FR is allowed in China
i am in shenzhen, china, right now
thanks for you 4ll about china
and Red Star Over China was written in 1940s
china has made some progress during the past 70 years
we can not stay at yesterday
each country has the problems of corruption and venality,
do you remember the Enron Corporation?
in deed, chinese people has less freedom in politism, but not “no”, we can not stop our steps for we have problems.
i am in shenzhen, china
CNN,FOX,MSM,NYT....
BBC...
AP...
are all allowed...in china...right now...
thanks your good wishes and prayers
God bless Chinese and America people...
Funny that there is no anger at the Govt for all the govt schools that collapsed...
we are anger,we also blame the local governments for the collapsed schools, but not this time, it’s after the rescuring...
Glad to meet a citizen of China. I would like to visit some day but now I pray that the quake damage can be contained quickly.
Americans pray for your safety.
We Americans pray for the safety of Chinese citizens.
Charles Kwok: I am glad to meet you on the internet. Prayers for your safety.
Ok charles...I’ll take your word on it..
I offer my prayers for the families...I weep for the children.
I also offer my prayers that you soon shake off the yoke of your tyranical masters and reclaim a china that has liberty...TRUE liberty.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that ALL men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
We do not hate your people....many are now part of our own soul...but we are very suspicious of your Govt and it’s actions.
I will never forget the images from Tiananmen square...
Be well.
They regularly send agents here to propagandize so I can't agree with that. I and a few others have fought with them for years. So far I have counted 24 Chinese sign ups since last night. They don't appear to be of the same cloth as the usual agents.
No, he isn’t the first. A number of us, led by indcons, have been battling PLA trolls who’ve been trying to post ChiCom propaganda here for several months now, particularly on the Tibet and Olympics threads.
It probably is propaganda. The ChiComs have a massive organization set up to try and influence American opinion by trolling internet news forums and blogs. See my reply in #36.
Uh, that would be no. There may be hundreds by now.
Keep up your good work! I was quite happy to see the free world realizing the Chinese oppression of Tibet, and now the Chi-Coms are trying to distract from this. No Communist Olympics for me. And I will never spend a cent for or in an unfree country (the only exception may be to pay for a regime change).
Let freedom ring from the snow-covered mountains in Tibet to the green meadows at the Southern Chinese Sea!
Let freedom ring from the Taiwanese coastline to the Great Wall!
Let freedom ring!
I’ve seen a few of your posts on these China threads and I appreciate your insight and perspective. I hear the ring of truth. Keep posting.
Despite the internal static, we need to share what we know and even what we suspect.
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