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Dismissal of the Rump Parliament
Emerson Kent ^ | April 20, 1653 | Oliver Cromwell

Posted on 11/02/2022 12:48:18 PM PDT by Regulator

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Oliver Cromwell's speech dissolving the Rump Parliament.

A little prelude to next week.

1 posted on 11/02/2022 12:48:18 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

BTTP


2 posted on 11/02/2022 12:54:40 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Dr. Franklin

Past is prologue...


3 posted on 11/02/2022 12:59:29 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Regulator

A welcome sight it would be.

Let’s not count our chickens just yet, there’s still time for treachery…


4 posted on 11/02/2022 1:04:47 PM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: Regulator

Cromwell was a tyrant.


5 posted on 11/02/2022 1:11:23 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

And every King isn’t?


6 posted on 11/02/2022 1:14:09 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: FLT-bird

Not quite.

He still had the Council of State to answer to.


7 posted on 11/02/2022 1:15:29 PM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: Regulator
Past is prologue...

Cromwell didn't have do deal with a Lame Duck Parliament. Unfortunately, these godless whores will still be in session causing mischief until January 1st.
8 posted on 11/02/2022 1:16:41 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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A point I’ve been thinking about now with Lizard Cheney running around acting like she’s Queen of America, not the meaningless defeated by a landslide Traitor she is.


9 posted on 11/02/2022 1:27:50 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Regulator

AMF works too.


10 posted on 11/02/2022 1:29:59 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

LOLZ

That’s funny

And True


11 posted on 11/02/2022 1:42:55 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: FLT-bird

Cromwell was a tyrant in the eyes of the established elites, an epithet he actually didn’t deserve.

But everything he said in this speech was true. Interestingly, with the deposition of King Charles, and the dissolution of his Court, England entered into an economic boom, fueled by the free markets that replaced the monumentally corrupt system of royal prerogatives that had grown up over generations.

The Irish, of course, loathe his memory for his having rather violently put down the Irish-based attempt at restoring by force of arms the hegemony of Roman Catholicism in England, something that the English rank and file didn’t want at all. If the Irish hadn’t signed on to Papal intrigues, Irish history would have been a lot more peaceful, right to this day.


12 posted on 11/02/2022 1:55:18 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (CNN)
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Yeah but he and the army controlled everything. The council of state knew what would happen to them if they didn’t go along with whatever he and the Roundheads wanted.

My direct namebearing ancestor boarded a ship in Bristol in 1649 and landed in Jamestown. That year was not a coincidence. Cromwell and the intolerant fanatical Puritan Roundheads who backed him are why my family became American. As Catholics, they knew better than to stay.


13 posted on 11/02/2022 1:55:30 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Cromwell wasn’t just a tyrant in the view of the elites. For example the other side in the civil war, the Cavaliers hated him. Pretty much anybody who wasn’t a Puritan such as Anglicans, Catholics, Presbyterians, Quakers and others were all oppressed under his tyrannical rule.

After all, these were the guys who banned maypoles. They banned football. They tried to ban celebrating Christmas. Eventually pretty much everybody had had it with these fanatical intolerant killjoys. When he died and his son “Tumbledown Dick” tried to take power, pretty much nobody was having any of it. They brought the king back.


14 posted on 11/02/2022 1:59:36 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Regulator

God bless Oliver Cromwell!


15 posted on 11/02/2022 2:00:03 PM PDT by jonatron (Land of the Free, Home of the Brave)
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To: FLT-bird

Much more complicated than that!
Read

https://www.amazon.com/Cromwell-Our-Chief-Antonia-Fraser/dp/0753813319/ref=sr_1_1?crid=GIELUJU4M0BD&keywords=oliver+cromwell+antonia+fraser&qid=1667422923&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIwLjg3IiwicXNhIjoiMC41OSIsInFzcCI6IjAuODEifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=Cromwell+antonia%2Caps%2C135&sr=8-1


16 posted on 11/02/2022 2:03:57 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily
Much more complicated than that!

Cromwell was worse than a tyrant, he was a tyrant who thought he directed by God.

The decision to kill Charles I happened (according to Cromwell) because it was willed by God. Cromwell saw himself as the instrument of his creator and often delayed making decisions because he was looking for "signs from God" to confirm his decisions.

17 posted on 11/02/2022 2:15:16 PM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: tlozo

Whatever


18 posted on 11/02/2022 2:21:15 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

I’ve read believe me. Its my family’s history.

He was a tyrant. The group he led were intolerant fanatics - just like their Puritan cousins in New England.


19 posted on 11/02/2022 2:21:16 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: FLT-bird

What Cromwell did to Ireland was heinous.


20 posted on 11/02/2022 2:44:29 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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