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What bread tasted like 4000 years ago
The Atlantic ^ | 8/29/2020 | KERIDWEN CORNELIUS

Posted on 08/29/2020 10:30:55 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: Tallguy

Sourdough starter definitely adds its own flavor to the bread as well as acting as a leavening agent. That’s why modern bakers use it. That opening sentence about capturing yeast from the air and turning it into bread just shows that the author was clueless about baking bread.


41 posted on 08/29/2020 1:36:59 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: SunkenCiv

More importantly, what did butter taste like?


42 posted on 08/29/2020 1:56:00 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019))
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

There are still recipes around for making sourdough starter from “wild yeast”.

https://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-your-own-sourdough-starter-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-47337


43 posted on 08/29/2020 2:08:20 PM PDT by LilFarmer
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I love homemade bagels, I haven’t made any in over two months. I use the dough for regular bagels and mini bagel dogs I like to put little smokies in. I usually make over seventy doggies and they are gone in a couple of days or less.


44 posted on 08/29/2020 2:16:10 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: LilFarmer

You can easily make your own starter from wild yeast but the author of the article gave the impression that you could get enough wild yeast to make bread just by leaving dough in the air. You have to make your starter first then use the starter to make the bread.


45 posted on 08/29/2020 3:01:20 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The profligate Earl of Sandwich tried the Egyptian bread and said don’t gamble your house or wages on the stuff catching on.


46 posted on 08/29/2020 3:55:05 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

“I read an article about Twinkies a long time ago. That cream filling was actually food grade plaster. Very appetizing.”

Yeah, I never saw the appeal.
Dry cake surrounding dry filling.
Roaches won’t even touch the things.


47 posted on 08/30/2020 4:22:29 AM PDT by oldvirginian (Take your mask and shove it! I am a proud WhuFlu Heretic and Trump Deplorable.)
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To: Trillian

My wife is eating a freshly made sesame seed bagel with cream cheese. So good! Mine had sesame seeds and a bit of salt. I only make 4 at a time or else we would just want to keep eating them.


48 posted on 08/30/2020 4:34:27 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Allow me to clarify my comment: I have played around (without a whole lot of success) making sourdoughs. I love a good sourdough with a lot of foods. I just wasn’t sure that yeast — regardless of origins — that yeast plays any part in varying the flavor of the bread-type. So if you want’ to limit the discussion to sourdoughs or expand it to other types, as long as we’re comparing apples-to-apples.


49 posted on 08/30/2020 6:44:36 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: Tallguy
So if you want’ to limit the discussion to sourdoughs or expand it to other types, as long as we’re comparing apples-to-apples.

I don't think you can just capture yeast from the air and instantly make bread from it so it has to be some variant of sourdough. You can make other yeast combinations from different types of fruits but irregardless of how you do it you're going to capture the essence of whatever medium you use to capture the yeast. The only way you can avoid that is by using a commercially prepared yeast, and even then I don't think you can avoid it completely. It's certainly a big topic of discussion among brewers and bakers: Does the yeast you use affect the flavor of what you use it on

50 posted on 08/30/2020 10:59:10 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Thanks for the link, I’ll check it out!


51 posted on 08/30/2020 2:00:54 PM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: MCF

Gotta try that beer and their crab cakes recipes! (love history, love cooking)

The old Maryland crab cake recipes call for Saltines. Ritz I think would be better.


52 posted on 08/30/2020 4:44:07 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I’ve yet to be successful on making a great ciabatta bread.

Does bread flour have more gluten then all-purpose flour?


53 posted on 08/30/2020 5:17:36 PM PDT by lizma2
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Does bread flour have more gluten then all-purpose flour?

Yes it does. Here's a short article that explains the differences between different types of flours: Different types of flour

If you really want to kick up the gluten you can add Vital Wheat Gluten to your mix.

Here is a recipe with pictures for Ciabatta That shows you the technique, click where it says Recipe for the actual recipe. Take note that this recipe actually uses a Poolish rather than real sourdough starter, but if you have starter you can use that instead.

Just a little note on King Arthur: they decided to go woke and made a big donation to the SPLC, an organization that brands anyone opposed to the Democratic Party platform as a "Hate Group" I use their website, love their tips and recipes but won't buy their products.

Finally, if you have a Facebook account you can join groups like Sourdough Bread Baking that has recipes, tips and advice from bakers of all levels from around the world.

54 posted on 08/30/2020 11:34:13 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: SunkenCiv

I had an uncle that worked in a bakery.

He made lots of dough................................


55 posted on 08/31/2020 5:15:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................)
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To: Red Badger

So he was able to rise through the ranks?


56 posted on 08/31/2020 5:19:07 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (These aren't my pants!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Yes, but he was light skinned and would never brown properly so he was replaced by people who were.................


57 posted on 08/31/2020 5:21:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Well at least it would have a flavor (unlike Coors Light).


58 posted on 08/31/2020 5:23:29 AM PDT by glennaro (Democrat/Left Party core principle: You can control anyone if you frighten them enough.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

A recipe would be nice....

Also, how did the bread become sweet? They didn’t have sugar. Did they use honey? Malted grain?


59 posted on 08/31/2020 5:56:27 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security! (Ironic, huh?))
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Thanks!


60 posted on 08/31/2020 6:00:14 AM PDT by lizma2
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