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NY Times Columnist: Trump ‘Would Certainly Like to’ Murder People Without Due Process
The Washington Free Beacon ^ | August 17, 2018 | Paul Crookston

Posted on 08/18/2018 3:57:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

New York Times columnist Michelle Goldberg argued with her fellow panelists on MSNBC’s "Meet the Press Daily" Friday about whether President Donald Trump is the leader of the free world or an aspiring despot.

RealClearPolitics reporter Caitlin Huey-Burns was criticizing Trump’s communication strategy when she called him "the leader of the free world." Goldberg interjected to say that, actually, German Chancellor Angela Merkel is the leader of the free world.

"He’s not the leader of the free world, but, sorry," Goldberg said.

"By default he’s the leader of the free world," Commentary magazine editor John Podhoretz replied.

"Angela Merkel is the leader of the free world," Goldberg said, while Podhoretz laughed.

"Well, he is the most important person in the world in politics right now," Huey-Burns said, looking at Goldberg.

MSNBC's Katy Tur asked if Goldberg meant European countries don’t see Trump as a leader, but Goldberg went further than that.

"He’s a sort of junior player in a bloc of authoritarian countries," she said. "He’s part of a bloc that includes [Russian President] Vladimir Putin, [Philippine President Rodrigo] Duterte."

Both leaders she referenced have faced steep criticism for violence against their own citizens, prompting Tur to push Goldberg to clarify.

"[Trump] is not rounding people up and murdering them without any due process," Tur said.

"He would certainly like to," Goldberg replied.

"I don’t think you can say that definitively, Michelle," Tur said, steering the conversation to Podhoretz.

Podhoretz, a conservative critical of Trump’s foreign policy, said Merkel is not the leader of the free world, but did say it is a problem if Trump weakens U.S. leadership.

"If he is not the leader of the free world, there is no leader of the free world," he said. "There is no world order without the most important richest, and most powerful country in the world trying to maintain [that]."

Goldberg defended her point by saying we now live in a world where "Saudi Arabia can intimidate Canada for sending out a tweet about its human rights record," prompting laughter from Tur and the other panelists.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; fascists; media; michellegoldberg; msnbc; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; television; trump
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

21 posted on 08/18/2018 4:23:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A Jew saying a German is the leader of the free world.....amazing.


22 posted on 08/18/2018 4:24:09 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

The Chancellor. Remind me, what was Adolf Hitler’s title again?


23 posted on 08/18/2018 4:25:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: ealgeone

And she gets her 30 pieces of silver from the Holocaust denying N.Y. Times.


24 posted on 08/18/2018 4:32:59 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These talking heads really have to stop doing those heroin-laced bong hits and pint of vodka just before they go on air.

I’m almost embarrassed for them. Sadly pathetic really.


25 posted on 08/18/2018 4:38:06 PM PDT by Boomer (Beware The Obsessed Leftist Pit Bull Haters on FR. Same as gun grabbers.)
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To: TruthBeforeAll

The number 1 rule of liberals is that whatever they accuse you of is precisely what they either are doing or dream of doing.
++++
Precisely but needs repeating so keep it up.

As a test ask yourself who colluded with the Russians in 2016. Who is so blatantly racist that words escape me. Who hires people who want all white people dead.


26 posted on 08/18/2018 4:44:22 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Curious as to what President Trump could possibly have done to make anyone believe something like that?


27 posted on 08/18/2018 4:45:09 PM PDT by LeoTDB69
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Preteen mean girls talk nonsense = MSNBC


28 posted on 08/18/2018 4:49:00 PM PDT by donna (Corporations are using censorship to destroy President Trump and achieve Globalism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I have a little list....

I have a little list..........

And they’d none of them be missed........

They’d none.... Of them.... Be missed.”

Pace Gilbert & Sullivan—so have I!


29 posted on 08/18/2018 4:53:17 PM PDT by Flintlock (The ballot box STOLEN, our soapbox taken away--the BULLET BOX is left to us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well,, well, looking who’s talking the defenders of ANTIFA and MS-13... effing evil POS hypocrites!!!


30 posted on 08/18/2018 5:03:27 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: RoseofTexas
Oops, meant to say "look"..damn autocorrect..damn it to hell!! 😝
31 posted on 08/18/2018 5:05:30 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: ptsal

Get a rope ! That one ?


32 posted on 08/18/2018 5:08:18 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where is your bothers ElCamino ?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dead on point which should be repeated every time one of these leftists accuse him of being a Nazi. These idiots can’t understand the irony that they are on public media stating they are being or are in danger of being oppressed. Real oppression doesn’t work that way; everyone just simply stops hearing from you because you’re in prison or dead and the government controls the media. Idiots.


33 posted on 08/18/2018 5:19:01 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck (The)
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To: ExpatCanuck

NYT & the rest of the FakeNewsMSM still can’t accept the will of the American people. shame on them:

9 Nov 2016: Guardian: Trump won. Now we organize to block him, every step of the way
Progressives must unify to halt a slide into authoritarianism.
by Kate Aronoff
It happened. Less than a month ago, the odds of a scandal-racked Donald Trump winning the election were just north of 8%. The man whose candidacy began as a joke in the summer of 2014 has become the leader of the free world. Faced with a Trump presidency, the urgent task now isn’t to dissect and explain how we lost. It’s to plan how to block his regime every step of the way forward...
More analogies to Hitler’s rise will feel painfully relevant this morning...

And the way world powers took on fascism in the second world war is a poor script for learning how to snuff out today’s far right...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/09/trump-won-us-election-progressives

Aronoff also writes for The Intercept:

15 Aug: The Intercept: “Hothouse Earth” Co-Author: The Problem Is Neoliberal Economics
by Kate Aronoff
By shifting to a “wartime footing” to drive a rapid shift toward renewable energy and electrification, humanity can still avoid the apocalyptic future laid out in the much-discussed “hothouse earth” paper, a lead author of the paper told The Intercept...

Asked what he thought the balance should be between those sorts of market-tweaking measures and regulations, (co-author Will) Steffen cautioned that he wasn’t an expert in the field. “Naively from the outside as a non-expert,” he said, “I would say regulation every time: throw people in jail, fine them, do whatever you need to do. But make sure you get the biophysical outcome. From what I’ve seen, market mechanisms don’t always deliver that.”
https://theintercept.com/2018/08/14/hothouse-earth-climate-change-neoliberal-economics/


34 posted on 08/18/2018 5:45:58 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The way to gain street cred in Michelle Goldberg’s circles, is to outdo your colleagues in showing how much you hate Trump. The more outlandish the accusation, the more you’re “in.” (Sort of like the Middle Ages, in which you broadcasted how devout a Christian you were by showing how much you hated Jews.)


35 posted on 08/18/2018 5:53:09 PM PDT by Hartmann
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“[Trump] is not rounding people up and murdering them without any due process,” Tur said.

“He would certainly like to,” Goldberg replied.

You mean like abortion, Mr. Goldberg?

Where is the baby’s due process?


36 posted on 08/18/2018 6:03:24 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: BenLurkin

Pretty big words,Odumbo!


37 posted on 08/18/2018 6:15:08 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If he were, they'd be in a concentration camp in Nome, Alaska, under the very close personal supervision of one Kommandante Sarah Palin.

But he isn't so they're not.

BUT:

Always remember boys and girls,

SJWs always *PROJECT*.

They want to put US in camps or kill us all. Literally.

38 posted on 08/18/2018 6:55:21 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: unlearner

Mr.Good analogy, however, Mr. Goodberg most likely needs to be Ms. Goldberg as I am pretty sure, though one can never be sure in the gender swamp that exists in today’s brave new world, Michelle Goldberg is a female.


39 posted on 08/18/2018 7:07:59 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: TruthBeforeAll

NY Times types would shoot us flyover flunkies if they could.


40 posted on 08/18/2018 7:13:14 PM PDT by Colt1851Navy (What was wrong with Nixon?)
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