Posted on 06/22/2018 11:46:12 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
That was according to my 8th grade history teacher-retired military. The only one who came close was MacArthur. That brings up the politics of the left. If it is true that Lee was a great General isn't it at least worth acknowledging? This tearing down of statues should stop. Educated persons should acknowledge the truth. It's the left that's the intelligent ones as they would have us believe. I see no conservatives standing up for this truth. The Senate GOP candidate in Virginia should start an 'intellectual' conversation on Lee and let the left react. Don't wait for a baiting reporter to to knee-jerk him into a quick response that they can interpret their own way.
Grant couldn’t afford food. I do not recall him owning slaves.
“I think Ulysses S. Grant is vastly underrated as a man and as a general. I know people think this and that about his drinking habits, which I think have been exaggerated way out of line. The fact is, he never demanded more men or material from the war department, he took over an army that had a long history of retreating and losing. That army had no confidence in their fighting ability and Grant came in as a real outsider. He had so many disadvantages going into the 1864 campaign, now 100 years ago. But he met every test and rose to the occasion unlike I’ve ever seen in American history. He was a very tough yet very fair man and a great soldier. He’s not been given his due...Grant devised a strategy to end the war. He alone had the determination, foresight, and wisdom to do it. It was lucky that President Lincoln didn’t interfere or attempt to control Grant’s strategic line of thinking. Lincoln wisely left the war to Grant, at least in the concluding moves after he came east. Grant is very undervalued today, which is a shame, because he was one of the greatest American generals, if not the greatest.” - Dwight Eisenhower to Walter Cronkite, July 1964
Ft. Sumter “didn’t belong to South Carolina”.
An island in the mouth of Charleston Harbor? So then, in your understanding, none of South Carolina belonged to South Carolina but to the Union and the Feds by extension.
The individual states were grouped by a mutual covenant into the United States and it was believed by most that they were freely bound and could depart should they wish. They asked to have the garrison returned.
Recently, Fort Monroe in Hampton Rhoads, Virginia was returned to the State of Virginia. I take it that you consider that a gift from the feds?
But beyond that, having to pay 80% of all the taxes, most of which got spent in the North, and having so many people calling you the most despicable people on Earth, yeah, it's a mystery why they wanted to leave the Country.
Having a big navy to call upon makes that a lot easier than it would have been for someone who didn't have a large navy to call upon. More practical too.
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“The South seemingly had enough guns and soldiers to put up quite a fight, so I wasn’t getting the purpose of the blockade. What was it blockading that mattered to the armies fighting on the land?”
The Confederacy imported 500,000 Enfield pattern rifle muskets from England and an additional 200,000 long arms from other European countries . Fifteen percent of Confederate Army field artillery were imported from Europe. The South had to import all of the chloroform and ether used by Confederate army doctors. In 1864, they even had to start importing uniforms for the Army. By 1865
20% of the Confederate Army was still equipped with 69. cal smoothbore muskets because the Confederacy could manufacture or import enough rifle muskets for its army.
My family lost a leg and a son at Cold Harbor. What a mess.
Here is that revisionist history again. Lincoln started the War at Fort Sumter. If his plan to start a war there had failed, he had a backup plan to start the war in Pensacola Florida over fort Pickens.
Lincoln was going to have his war.
And it was Winfield Scott’s Anaconda Plan also included occupying the Mississippi and denying the Confederacy the use of their best port New Orleans.
If the situation were reversed, Lee wouldn’t have been invading another country.
Lee loathed slavery (and that is a fact) through his own experience with it and he thought it would give the southern cause more sway with England. Queen Victoria and her consort were noted opponents of the peculiar institution although lovers of the southern cotton balls that kept the Liverpool mills spinning millions of pound notes.
My memory may be wrong on this so I’m hoping that others may correct or confirm what I am writing. And please, leave that chore to others, Ms. Dog. I’d hate to see you pawing through that vast liberry of yours.
Lee not good at all.
As a % of the men under his direct command, he lost a higher % than did McClellan in the 7 Days, Chancellorsville, Antietam, and obviously Gettysburg, where he managed to lose 1/3 of his army in 3 days.
The only major battle where he lost a lower % of troops under his command was Fredericksburg, where he held an entrenched position on the heights, and Cold Harbor.
In moving, open conflicts he was repeatedly maneuvered into attacking fortified positions (Gaines Mill, Malvern Hill, Gettysburg) and even when he HAD the high ground on occasion (Antietam) he still suffered higher relative casualties.
This is saying a lot when his opponents such as Pope, McClellan, Hooker, and McDowell were incompetent.
New Orleans was captured early on, that was a fatal blow.
The CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED “STATES” OF AMERICA
“No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom Service or Labour may be due.”
The treacherous bastard ABOLITIONISTs and the GODDAMNED REPUBLICAN PARTY have brought us to the point of ruin, now come the WASHINGTONIANS IN OUR FACE STOMPING US UNDER THEIR BOOT.
Time to SEND IN THE MARINES, ICE, CBP, AND DHS “SPECIAL FORCES” to RESTORE OUR REPUBLIC.
ALL OPTIONS ON THE TABLE
STATE OF EMERGENCY, DIRECT ACTION BY POTUS, WASHINGTON LOCKED DOWN AND STRIPPED OF ALL POWER.
Trump needs to prepare his supporters.
It’s on.
You should read up on Nathan Bedford Forrest sometime. Among other things he did, he offered freedom to 25 of his own slaves if they would serve with him. At one point in which he thought he might get killed in battle, he filled out 24 manumission papers and signed them. In case he died, he still wanted his promise of freedom to them kept.
From what I have read, he used them as armed cavalry.
Doesn’t mean the “Unionists” were all angels. But their cause was righteous. And I believe it was in the sight of Almighty God.
God tends to favor the side that has four times the population and is far more Industrially based. Apparently he favored the Germans in the 1930s for some reason.
I don't agree that their cause was righteous. I used to believe that before I learned more facts about what actually happened. Their cause was about the worst cause of which you can imagine. Slapping subjugation on another people for money.
The Civil War was about the money stream coming from European trade. If it were about slavery, Lincoln would not have offered to protect slavery permanently.
I disagree.
Contemplate for a moment the tens - the HUNDREDS of thousands of lives (north and south alike) that would have been saved had REL not turned his back on his oath during the dirty insurrection.
As for Lee, look up what his fans did to Longstreet and anybody who questioned Lee's generalship. If people criticize Lee now, maybe it's only fair, given how his partisans attacked anybody who stood in their way.
Some of the criticism relates to Lee's generalship. For all his brilliance in some campaigns, Lee wasn't able to form a winning strategy to win the war. Perhaps that was because he wasn't in over-all control of Confederate forces, but if he was, maybe he wouldn't have had the time to win those battles. Of course the Confederacy didn't have the resources the North had, but given that, shouldn't Lee and his fellow Southerners have taken another course of action?
Other critics take on the myth that's grown up around Lee as some kind of saint. Lee was so revered and with so little questioning or critical investigation, that it was inevitable that people would become skeptical about his reputation. If Lee's high reputation was deserved, it won't be entirely destroyed by current criticism.
An island built by the federal government on land deeded to it free and clear by act of the South Carolina legislature. It belonged to the federal government. Only Congress could dispose of it.
Recently, Fort Monroe in Hampton Rhoads, Virginia was returned to the State of Virginia. I take it that you consider that a gift from the feds?
Yes, unless Virginia bought it.
So much for “I don’t like arguing with you.”
The British position was that they opposed the 'Slave Trade' and used their navy to stop it.
What was actually happening was that they were using Indian indentured servitude that was slavery in all but name as forced labor while denying other countries access to that cheap agricultural labor source.
Britain didn't have to force their way to access to Southern cotton which was a big part of the Southern strategy, they had other sources.
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