A Response to the Idea of Removing the Natural Born Citizen Clause From Our Constitution

puzo1.blogspot.com ^ | May 17, 2018 | Mario Apuzzo, Esq

[rxsid]

A Response to the Idea of Removing the Natural Born Citizen Clause From Our Constitution
Thursday, May 17, 2018

University of Richmond School of Law Professor Kevin C. Walsh proposes ridding our Constitution of its “natural born Citizen” clause.  See his article, “The ‘Irish Born’ One American Citizenship Amendment,” here https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3165238 . Professor Walsh writes that the original Constitution is not perfect and it is time to change its actual text.  In that connection, he advocates that naturalized American citizens should be eligible to be President.  He states: “There are not two classes of American citizenship, just one. It is time to repeal the Natural Born Citizen Clause.”  People have posted comments to his article and  Professor Walsh addresses them here

https://reason.com/volokh/2018/05/17/replies-to-comments-on-a-constitutional and here http://beforeitsnews.com/libertarian/2018/05/replies-to-comments-on-a-constitutional-amendment-to-repeal-the-natural-born-citizen-clause-2712011.html .  I have picked two of the questions and Professor Walsh’s responses for my own comment.  They are: 

1.  Question:  If very few people care much about this amendment, why would anyone sponsor it?

Professor Walsh’s response:  Putting aside the fact that it is good for America generally, uses include: (1) deflection of false “anti-immigrant” accusations based on a lawmaker’s stance against illegal immigration; (2) attraction of votes from naturalized citizens and their friends; (3) rejection of “blood and soil” nationalism.

My comment:  We are supposed to believe without any explanation that this amendment would be “good for America generally.”  To avoid “’anti-immigrant’ accusations,” we are told we need to change our presidential eligibility by getting rid of the natural born citizen clause, a clause that the Framers included in the Constitution for national security’s sake.  We are also told to change our presidential eligibility so that some unstated person or party can garner more votes at the polls.  And the best of all, Professor Walsh tells us that removing the natural born citizen clause will get rid of “’blood and soil’ nationalism” from American politics.  In his actual article, he calls it “’blood and soil’ white nationalism.”  In that article he also says that politicians should be amendable to advocating getting rid of the natural born citizen clause to give the appearance of not being anti-immigrant(“easy inoculation against the virulent accusation of being anti-immigrant”) and not being associated with people who advocate such a bad idea.  His plan for getting the amendment accomplished is for Democrats to set up Republican to do the job for them.  His scheme is for two-thirds of both Houses of Congress to propose the amendment, led by Republicans who for the sake of winning elections should want to give voters the appearance that they are not anti-immigrant or racists and supported by Democrats who are already on board.  It looks like in Professor Walsh’s world, there should be no problem with “Russian collusion.”  Did it ever occur to Professor Walsh that blood and soil is what makes a nation state and that it is the energy which when used properly keeps people free?   

2.  Question:  What about competing loyalties to country of birth for a candidate who is a naturalized citizen?

Professor Walsh’s response: Let’s remember we’re only talking about eligibility. Presumably voters can decide about allegiance. And there’s no good reason to treat circumstances of birth as a reliable proxy. (The Manchurian Candidate was born in the United States.) With respect to competing loyalties more generally, the naturalization process requires a choice and newly naturalized Americans are akin to converts.

My comment:  What Professor Walsh does not address is the question of whether it is voters or parties who produce our elected leaders.  He should examine why the Framers guaranteed the States a republican form of government and gave us the Electoral College as part of the process for electing our President and Commander in Chief.  If voters without more can in the heat and partisanship of an election be trusted to make the right decision about who shall be the single person to wield not only the executive power, but also all our military power, then why even have a Constitution or even laws?  Will Professor Walsh next be advocating getting rid of our republican form of government and replace it with mob rule?  He states that citizenship is no guarantee of allegiance.  If the natural born citizen clause is to die because it is not a guarantee of loyalty, then why have the age and residency eligibility requirements or any requirements for that matter?  Finally, he tells us that a naturalized person is as loyal as a natural born citizen because naturalization requires “a choice.”  What he fails to tell us is what exactly is that choice and how does it relate to allegiance to the United States. 

Needless to say, I am not impressed with the reasons that Professor Walsh puts forth for justifying his proposal to remove the natural born citizen clause from presidential eligibility and ultimately from the Constitution. The Framers inserted the clause into the Constitution to assure that the constitutional republic would be preserved by requiring that the nation be led in international relations and military combat by a person who had undivided allegiance and loyalty to the United States. For those reasons, the clause is worth preserving.      

While I am at it, I might as well again state what my position is on the meaning of an Article II natural born citizen.  My years of research and litigation in the courts have led me to the conclusion that the definition of a natural born citizen comes from natural law and that under that law, which was codified into the law of nations, a natural born citizen is a child who becomes a member of society (“citizen”) at birth by virtue of his or her birth circumstances alone and therefore needs no positive law to make or deem him or her a citizen.  American common law at the time of the framing of the Constitution reflected this natural law and law of nations understanding.  See Emer de Vattel, The Law of Nations, Section 212 (1758) (1797) ("The citizens are the members of the civil society: bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens"); Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875) ("all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became. . . natives, or natural-born citizens"); accord U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) ("The child of an alien, if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle").

Hence, there are two necessary and sufficient elements in the definition of a natural born citizen under the common law with which the Framers were familiar when they drafted the Constitution and therefore under the Constitution, i.e., (1) birth or reputed birth in the country (2) to parents who were both U.S. citizens at the time of the child's birth.  Again, these elements are both necessary and sufficient to make a natural born citizen (place of birth alone is necessary but not sufficient).  Satisfying just one of the elements will not be sufficient for producing a natural born citizen.  This definition is enshrined in the Constitution.  While the 14th Amendment could have changed this definition, it did not.  Nor can any Act of Congress supplant it.  Scholars and professors who have been publishing papers on the meaning of a natural born citizen argue whether place of birth or parentage is necessary or sufficient to make one a natural born subject.  They fail to understand that these two elements are both necessary and sufficient to make one a natural born citizen.  

One other point merits discussion.  New Jersey Administrative Law Judge Jeff Masin, in my latest New Jersey ballot challenges against Senator Ted Cruz, found in 2016 that English and U.S. naturalization Acts were incorporated into and became part of English and therefore U.S. common law and that therefore under that “common law,” a child born out of the United States to two or even one U.S. citizen parent is a natural born citizen. "The more persuasive legal analysis is that such a child, born of a citizen-father, citizen-mother, or both, is indeed a 'natural born citizen' within the contemplation of the Constitution," ALJ Masin wrote. The full decision can be read here:  https://www.scribd.com/doc/308269472/NJ-Judge-Advisory-Opinion-Rules-Canadian-Born-Cruz-Eligible-To-Be-President-4-12-2016.  Reduced, this means that he concluded that birth to one U.S. citizen parent, no matter where that child may be born in the world, is sufficient to make one a natural born citizen.  I objected to this position and holding, arguing that if it were correct that American common law had been so transformed by such statutes and such common law formed the basis of the constitutional definition of a natural born citizen, then all of Congress’s naturalization Acts since the beginning of our nation have been unconstitutional and the U.S. Supreme Court, which has ruled on the meaning of U.S. citizenship and interpreted those Acts throughout the centuries, has gotten it wrong.  The Supreme Court ruled in 1967 in Afroyim v. Rusk, 387 U.S. 253 (1967) that the government can expatriate an American citizen only after he or she commits a voluntary act that demonstrates an intent to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship. The Court said: “We hold that the Fourteenth Amendment was designed to, and does, protect every citizen of this Nation against a congressional forcible destruction of his citizenship, whatever his creed, color, or race. Our holding does no more than to give to this citizen that which is his own, a constitutional right to remain a citizen in a free country unless he voluntarily relinquishes that citizenship.”  Id. at 268.  If the Fourteenth Amendment has such power which I agree it does, then, if ALJ Masin is correct, it, along with the Fifth Amendment, can also be used as a basis for arguing that Congress has since the beginning of our nation violated the Constitution by not recognizing the natural born citizen status of all children born out of the United States to one or two U.S. citizen parents.  Neither ALJ Masin nor the New Jersey Appellate Division addressed my observation and objection.

The debate on the meaning of a natural born citizen continues.  It will not end until the U.S. Supreme Court rules on the merits of the meaning of the clause.  In the meantime, we should keep the natural born citizen clause right where it is, in our Constitution.  

Mario Apuzzo, Esq.

May 17, 2018

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[YogicCowboy]

I second!

[GOPJ]

Thanks for the ping.

[Boomer]

Get rid of the anchor baby loophole too. At least one parent should be an American citizen for the baby to be an American citizen by birth. Period. No loophole. Parent must show born in America birth certificate or naturalization papers. No exceptions.

[PAR35]

It must have been about the 5th grade when we were studying the Constitution, and it was the clear understanding of everyone in the room that the girl who had been born on base in Germany couldn’t ever be president. (On the other hand, since gender politics hadn’t surfaced yet, the fact that she was female didn’t enter into the discussion at all. We were all strict constructionists back then.)

[little jeremiah]

If 0vomit had told the truth about his life history, and if the media had reported the same, then the voters could have decided.

But 0vomit and the media lied to cover his real life history up, and the voters were given no facts with which to base their choice on.

[Liz]

THE MAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY---Rumors persist that Obama wasn't born here. Like the fictional Philip
Nolan of ”The Man Without a Country,” Obama seems to have renounced our nation.....like he never heard of the USA.

Even more egregious one could conclude Obama might have given explicit orders.......
”no one in the Democrat party should ever mention the United States of America ever again.”

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Obama seems more at home in Kenya.......meddling in their elections.

Barack Obama with Mohamed Abdi, Somali muslim candidate for Mandera East, Kenya who lost.

[jmacusa]

I agree entirely.

[Flaming Conservative]

There are two reasons we are the greatest country in the world. One, is God. We have been blessed beyond measure because the Mayflower pilgrims dedicated this land to God, and covenented with Him. And God keeps His covenants. And two, our Constitution sets us apart from every other nation. It was written with JudeoChristian principles in mind, by men who sought to frame it according to the justice and mercies of God. They were not all Christians, but they all relied on the Almighty, to give them wisdom.

[GOP Poet]

bookmark

[arrogantsob]

That is incredible that that was thought but it was only someone’s opinion. It is unbelievable that our founders would have allowed such an injustice to occur.

A family is what ties one to a nation. An ambassador’s son, born in London, is still a part of that family and its nation.

To have a law exclude citizens of higher than caliber talents is an absurdity.

[Uncle Sham]

The Natural-Born Citizen requirement has already been removed via NON-ENFORCEMENT.

[null and void]

We’re going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

BTW, in 1795 a law granting NBC status to children of diplomats born abroad was repealed....

[arrogantsob]

Since Der Fuehrer was apparently a citizen by virtue of his mother his citizenship would not be abrogated without his action to do so. You may have to have proof that you have attained sufficient standing to make such a decision.

[Fred Nerks]

I hate to bring it up again, but Stanley Ann Dunham wasn’t his mother, neither was the Kenyan student his father. Ask the famous babysitter. She knows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A3bYdwSsr8&index=3&list=PLwDnebP1khQxZPHIMbQB1ZMDCCPoy8T9f

[arthurus]

There is a valid reason for the NBC clause that is obviously as valid now as ever. Barak Hussein Obama is the proof that it is a wise component of the Constitution an he is also an illustration that when pretty much the entire governing class is intent on ignoring the Constitution it gets ignored.

[GregNH]

The Natural-Born Citizen requirement has already been removed via NON-ENFORCEMENT

Pretty much. Another SCOTUS pick and we may get a ruling on the term of art NBC, not that we should need one.

I find extremely odd that we have had one non NBC after another running for POTUS with one succeeding. Yes I believe McCaniac is not an NBC. Cruz certainly wasn't and I'm not going to get into Mitt. It just seems odd...

[Albion Wilde]

bump

[rxsid]

Yes, it is interesting the wave of non natural born Citizen POTUS candidates running lately. It's almost as if the globalist's want to destroy our Constitution & sovereignty.

/s

[arrogantsob]

You could go broke trying to figure out his true origin. Nothing is certain and this claim is very possible.

[Beautiful_Gracious_Skies]

Then how was Ted Cruz allowed to run for potus?

Born outside and reared outside the USA until age 10.

His father was a Cuban national that became a Canadian before Ted was born and kept Canadian citizenship until 2006. Then he applied for American citizenship.

His mother, while born in Delaware, accepted Canadian citizenship before Ted was born and lived another 10 years in Canada. It is unclear when or if she re-patrioted to the USA.

Ted did not rescind his Canadian citizenship until quite recently.