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How do you prove that Earth is older than 10,000 years?
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Posted on 12/02/2017 12:19:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Planet Earth formed around 4.5 billion years ago. The first primitive forms of life appeared about 4 billion years ago. Natural selection did the rest, giving rise to species increasingly better adapted to their environment. Evidence, as they say, is overwhelming.

Or is it? Imagine planet Earth began its existence a mere 10,000 years ago, with all fossil records in place and carbon-14 well into decaying. From there on, however, evolution proceeded as scientists tell us. How’d you prove this story wrong?

You can’t.

I know it hurts. But hang on there, band aid follows below.

You can’t prove this story wrong because of the way our current theories work. These theories need two ingredients: 1) A configuration at any one moment in time, called the “initial condition,” and 2) A hypothesis for how this initial configuration changes with time, called the “evolution law.”

You can reverse the evolution law to figure out from the present configuration what happened back in time. But there’s no way you can tell whether an earlier configuration actually existed or whether they are just convenient stories. In theories of this type – and that includes all theories in physics – you can therefore never rule out that at some earlier time the universe evolved by an entirely different law – maybe because God or The Programmer assembled it – and was then suddenly switched on to reproduce our observations.

I often hear people argue such creation-stories are wrong because they can’t be falsified, but this makes about as much sense as organic salt. No, they aren’t not wrong, but they are useless.

Last week, I gave a talk at the department of History and Philosophy at the University of Toronto. My talk was followed by a “response” from a graduate student who evidently spent quite some time digging through this blog’s archives to classify my philosophy of science. I didn’t know I have one, but you never stop learning.

I learned that I am sometimes an anti-realist, meaning I don’t believe in the existence of an external reality. But I’d say I am neither a realist nor an anti-realist; I am agnostic about whether or not reality exists or what that even means. I don’t like to say science unveils “truths” about “reality” because this just brings on endless discussions about what is true and what is real. To me, science is about finding useful descriptions of the world, where by “useful” I mean they allow us to make predictions or explain already existing observations. The simpler an explanation, the more useful it is.

That scientific theories greatly simplify the stories we tell about the world is extremely important and embodies what we even mean by doing science. Forget all about Popperism and falsification, just ask what’s the most useful explanation. Saying that the world was created 10,000 years ago with all fossils in place is useless in terms of explaining the fossils. If you, on the other hand, extrapolate the evolution law back in time 4 billion years, you can start with a much simpler initial condition. That’s why it’s a better explanation. You get more out of less.

So there’s your band aid: Saying that the world was created 10,000 years ago with everything in place is unfalsifiable but also useless. It is quantifiably not simple: you need to put a lot of data into the initial condition. A much simpler, and thus scientifically better, explanation, is that planet Earth is ages old and Darwinian evolution did its task.

I’m not telling you this because I’ve suddenly developed an interest in Creationism. I am telling you this because I frequently encounter similar confusions surrounding the creation of the universe. This usually comes up in reaction to me pointing out that there is nothing whatsoever wrong with finetuned initial conditions if you do not have a probability distribution to quantify why the conditions are supposedly unlikely.

People often tell me that a finetuned initial condition doesn’t explain anything and thus isn’t scientific. Or, even weirder, that if you’d accept finetuned initial conditions this would turn science itself ad absurdum.

But this is just wrong. Finetuned initial conditions are equally good or bad explanations than not-finetuned ones. What is decisive isn’t whether the initial condition is finetuned, but whether it’s simple. According to current nomenclature, that is not the same thing. Absent a probability distribution, for example, an initial value of 1.0000000[00] for the curvature density parameter is scientifically equally good as an initial value of 0.0000001[00]… because both are equally simple. Current thinking among cosmologists, in contrast, has it that the latter is much worse than the former.

This confusion about what it means for a scientific theory to be useful sits deep and has caused a lot of cosmologists to cook up stories about the early universe based on highly questionable extrapolations into the past.

Take, for example, inflation, the idea that the early universe underwent a phase of rapid expansion. Inflation conjectures that before a certain moment in our universe’s history there was a different evolution law, assigned to a newly invented scalar field called the “inflaton.” But this conjecture is scientifically problematic because it construes up an evolution law in the past where we have no way of testing it. It’s not so different from saying that if you’d roll back time more than 10,000 years, you wouldn’t find planet Earth but god waving a magic wand or what have you.

A bold conjecture like inflation can only be justified if it leads to an actually simpler story, but on that the jury is out. Inflation was meant to solve several finetuning problems, but this doesn’t bring a simplification, it’s merely a beautification. The price to pay for this prettier theory, though, is that you now have at least one, if not several, new fields and their potentials, and some way to get rid of them again, which is arguably a complication of the story.

I wrote in a recent post that inflation seems justifiable after all because it provides a simple explanation for certain observed correlations in the cosmic microwave background (CMB). Well, that’s what I wrote some weeks ago, but now I am not so sure it is correct, thanks in no small part to a somewhat disturbing conversation I had with Niayesh Afshordi at Perimeter Institute.

The problem is that in cosmology there really aren’t a lot of data. There are but a few numbers. It’s a simple story already without inflation. And so, the current status is that I just don’t know whether or not inflation is a good theory. (But check back next month.)

Let me emphasize that the concordance model (aka ΛCDM) does not suffer from this problem. Indeed, it makes a good example for a scientifically successful theory. Here’s why.

For the concordance model, we seek the combination of dark matter, normal matter, and cosmological constant (as well as a handful other parameters) that best fit current observations. But what do we mean by best fit? We could use any combinations of parameters to get the dynamical law, and then use it to evolve the present day observations back in time. And regardless of what the law, there is always an initial state that will evolve into the present one.

In general, however, the initial state will be a mess, for example because the fluctuations of the cosmic microwave background (radiation) are not related in any obvious way to the structures we observe (matter). Whereas, if you pick the parameters correctly, these two types of structures belong together (higher density of matter corresponding to hotter spots in the cosmic microwave background). This match is a great simplification of the story – it explains something.

But the more you try to turn back time in the early universe, the harder it becomes to obey the scientific credo of storytelling, that you should seek only simpler explanations, not more complicated ones. The problem is the story we presently have is already very simple. This really is my biggest issue with eternal inflation and the multiverse or cyclic cosmologies, bounces, and so on and so forth. They are stories, all right, but they aren’t simplifying anything. They just add clutter, like the programmer that set up our universe so that it looks the way it looks.

On some days I hope something scientific will eventually come out of these stories. But today I am just afraid we have overstepped the limits of science.


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KEYWORDS: age; cosmology; dinosonark; earth; earthage
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To: exDemMom
One approach to radioactive dating is to measure the amount of C-14 as well as the quantity of the nuclear decay products.

The problem there is that the vast majority of C-14 is generated by the solar wind and cosmic rays converting Nitrogen (N-14) into C-14, which then decays back into N-14. There is no way to accurately measure the proportions using the decay products. That's why they measure the ratio of C-14 to C-12 and calculate on the assumption of relatively constant creation of C-14 (an assumption we already know to be invalid, but not, we think, hopelessly flawed). So, even though there are dramatic fluctuations in the rate of C-14 creation, such as the spike in the late 8th century where, IIRC, about double the normal amount of C-14 was present (calculated by analyzing the individual rings of trees that were preserved by submersion in an ice lake). So, not only is there significant variation in the levels of C-14 present historically, we don't even have a complete record of that (yet - it is a work in progress). C-14 dating is no better than a best guess based on reasonably solid, if incomplete, data.

41 posted on 12/02/2017 3:37:50 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Progressive Mafia.)
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To: from occupied ga

Mostly right - except you got the half-life wrong. It’s in the ball park of 5750 years. That’s one of the things that makes it so useful, its half-life is roughly the same duration as recorded human history.


42 posted on 12/02/2017 3:43:29 PM PST by calenel (The Democratic Party is a Criminal Enterprise. It is the Progressive Mafia.)
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To: sparklite2
For practical applications, sure. But that's not quite the same as "scientific" as I would define it.

This is why the engineers among us build margins of safety into everything we do.

43 posted on 12/02/2017 3:55:46 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: metmom

I’m taking a screen shot. Metmom is quoting a rabbi. (besides Jesus) ;)


44 posted on 12/02/2017 4:02:41 PM PST by Phinneous (Moshiach Now!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Since we can’t test orbital mechanics by adding or subtracting planets, all we can go on is observation.
Predicting where a planet will be at a given time is a test, and maybe an experiment of sorts, if you will. It’s science to me.


45 posted on 12/02/2017 4:03:12 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: VanDeKoik
How do you prove that Earth is older than 10,000 years?

Look at Hillary's neck.

46 posted on 12/02/2017 4:06:16 PM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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To: SeekAndFind
What if I told you that our "Earth" is just one of an endless stream of "recycles" that God does over the eons, that souls are "recycled" and "reused" as well as the material reused to recreate the universe each time?

Sound crazy? Consider this.

Revelation speaks of a "new heaven and a new earth". If my "recycling" theory is correct, it is conceivable that the material in the earth could be billions of years old, but "life" on the current earth could be only a few thousand years old. It could explain finding aged fossils of primitive "men", without finding a clear evolutionary path from Neanderthals to Cro-Magnons. It could explain those who believe in reincarnation and past lives.

47 posted on 12/02/2017 4:11:37 PM PST by cincinnati65
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To: Alberta's Child

Astronomers can now measure distance to stars directly with parallax surveying, so the question of whether stars are more than 10,000 light years away is solved. They should be able to measure out to at least 50,000 light years with the current satellite.


48 posted on 12/02/2017 4:12:44 PM PST by CMB_polarization
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To: SeekAndFind
Wouldn't the amount of argon 40 in the earth's atmosphere prove that it (the earth) is much, much older than 10,000 years? Especially that when you consider the only source of argon 40 is potassium 40 decay (with a half life of 1.248×10^9 years)?

BTW, star formation of Argon is isotopes 36 & 38, not Ar40,
49 posted on 12/02/2017 4:27:28 PM PST by farming pharmer
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To: CMB_polarization

I may be mistaken in the details, but by using aperture synthesis, radio astronomers can take signals at point A, then take signals six months later at point B when the earth is on the opposite side of the sun, and combine the two, it is like having a dish antenna as big as the distance from A to B.
Baby, that’s some parallax.


50 posted on 12/02/2017 4:30:53 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: calenel

What I get for not checking


51 posted on 12/02/2017 4:40:53 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Bryanw92

Agreed. The “created in motion” theory makes God out as a liar, presenting false evidence.
The “all from the flood” theory expects far too much order & depth to come from too much energy in too short a time.

10,000 years is just 100 hundred-year lifespans back to back.

Celestial bodies more than 10,000 light years away would not, for all true evidence, exist.

Expecting intricate fossil records from a single giant flood would be like expecting a Swiss watch be created by a nuclear explosion.

Look up. Tell us what you see. Give a sensible expansion.


52 posted on 12/02/2017 4:50:56 PM PST by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Bryanw92
God does not lie.

True, but God did not write the Bible. Men did. Men who had little knowledge of the physical world.

53 posted on 12/02/2017 5:59:58 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Bryanw92
Why does it necessarily have to have been done in order to confuse us?

There are other reasons He might have had, having nothing to do with us.

And -- if it were done to confuse us -- He's done that kind of thing before:

"11And He told them, “The mystery of the kingdom of God has been given to you, but to those on the outside, everything is expressed in parables, 12so that, ‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven.’”" Mark 4:11-12

54 posted on 12/02/2017 6:00:14 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Two key items:
1. It is arrogant to believe God’s day is one rotation of our Earth among the vast universe.
2. Darwin’s primary premise is wrong: It is not the “survival of the fittest”. It is the survival of the sufficient. Sufficiently fast, sufficiently strong, sufficiently camouflaged, sufficiently smart or a sufficient combination of the aforementioned.


55 posted on 12/02/2017 6:03:21 PM PST by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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To: ctdonath2
Agreed. The “created in motion” theory makes God out as a liar, presenting false evidence.

You're assuming God was wearing an engineer hat.

Dorothy Sayers had a very interesting piece on this based on her experience as a novelist. She pointed out that the characters had events in their lives which were never explicitly detailed in the novels, even if they were discussed by the characters during a novel.

The author, far from being misleading by doing so, was serving a higher artistic purpose, since the novels had fixed beginning and end, but the characters (were they real) would have had a LOT of their life completely outside of the bounds of the novel.

The characters' behaviour would have to be consistent with their lives and experiences outside of the novel, even if those items never "existed" within the fictional world bounded by the novel.

56 posted on 12/02/2017 7:56:06 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Phinneous

Have you read his stuff?

It’s fascinating.

He does a masterful job of reconciling Scripture and science.


57 posted on 12/02/2017 7:57:27 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: grey_whiskers

That’s kinda the point of “Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead”, noting the absurdity thereof.

The 10,000 year claim is based on a highly debatable interpretation of a few lines of Scripture given to a goat herder.

The heavens declare a much bigger & older space than man’s limited interpretation of a text concludes. When great contortions of understanding reality are required to unify with an unsure interpretation of Scripture, it’s usually the interpretation that’s got it wrong.


58 posted on 12/02/2017 8:04:13 PM PST by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Post glacial isostatic rebound since last ice age


59 posted on 12/02/2017 8:11:27 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (don't forget to mouse your sisterhooks)
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To: metmom
Yup. Even better live!--- his contribution to a program at the rabbinical seminary for late-comers, Aish haTorah right next to the Western Wall, is what made me want to.... ready... leave the Navy and run off to study Torah. Absolutely fascinating. However In Orthodox and hassidic circles (I'm the latter) there are varying opinions. One is that a day is a literal day and all else will be reconciled as "Cuz that's how He created it" when science "catches up" to Torah. So here is the late grand rabbi of Lubavitch, R Menachem Schneerson, of righteous memory. His eight years of university-level science and engineering help a bit in formulating the arguments, to say the least. Long excerpt from this link below, but so worthwhile to read through: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/112083/jewish/Theories-of-Evolution.htm The Age of the Universe By the Grace of G‑d 18th of Teveth, 5722 [December 25, 1961] Brooklyn, NY Greeting and Blessing: After not having heard from you for a long time, I was pleased to receive regards from you through the young men of Chabad who visited your community recently in connection with the public lecture. I was gratified to hear that you participated in the discussion, but it was quite a surprise to me to learn that you are still troubled by the problem of the age of the world as suggested by various scientific theories which cannot be reconciled with the Torah view that the world is 5722 years old. I underlined the word theories, for it is necessary to bear in mind, first of all, that science formulates and deals with theories and hypotheses while the Torah deals with absolute truths. These are two different disciplines, where reconciliation is entirely out of place. It was especially surprising to me that, according to the report, the said problem is bothering you to the extent that it has trespassed upon your daily life as a Jew, interfering with the actual fulfillment of the daily Mitzvoth. I sincerely hope that the impression conveyed to me is an erroneous one. For, as you know, the basic Jewish principle of na'aseh (first and v'nishma (afterwards) makes it mandatory upon the Jew to fulfill G‑d's commandments regardless of the degree of understanding, and obedience to the Divine Law can never be conditioned upon human approval. In other words, lack of understanding, and even the existence of legitimate" doubts, can never justify disobedience to the Divine Commandments; how much less, when the doubts are illegitimate, in the sense that they have no real or logical basis, such as the problem in question. Apparently, our discussion which took place a long time ago, and which, as I was pleased to learn, has not been forgotten by you, has nevertheless not cleared up this matter in your mind. I will attempt to do so now, in writing, which imposes both brevity and other limitations. I trust, however, that the following remarks will serve our purpose. Basically the problem has its roots in a misconception of the scientific method or, simply, of what science is. We must distinguish between empirical or experimental science dealing with, and confined to, describing and classifying observable phenomena, and speculative science, dealing with unknown phenomena, sometimes phenomena that cannot be duplicated in the laboratory. Scientific speculation is actually a terminological incongruity; for science, strictly speaking, means knowledge, while no speculation can be called knowledge in the strict sense of the word. At best, science can only speak in terms of theories inferred from certain known facts and applied in the realm of the unknown. Here science has two general methods of inference; (a) The method of interpolation (as distinguished from extrapolation), whereby, knowing the reaction under two extremes, we attempt to infer what the reaction might be at any point between the two. (b) The method of extrapolation, whereby inferences are made beyond a known range, on the basis of certain variables within the known range. For example, suppose we know the variables of a certain element within a temperature range of 0 to 100, and on the basis of this we estimate what the reaction might be at 101, 200, or 2000. Of the two methods, the second (extrapolation) is clearly the more uncertain. Moreover, the uncertainty increases with the distance away from the known range and with the decrease of this range. Thus, if the known range is between 0 and 100, our inference at 101 has a greater probability than at 1001. Let us note at once, that all speculation regarding the origin and age of the world comes within the second and weaker method, that of extrapolation. The weakness becomes more apparent if we bear in mind that a generalization inferred from a known consequent to an unknown antecedent is more speculative than an inference from an antecedent to consequent. That an inference from consequent to antecedent is more speculative than an inference from antecedent to consequent can be demonstrated very simply: Four divided by two equals two. Here the antecedent is represented by the divided and divisor, and the consequent - by the quotient. Knowing the antecedent in this case, gives us one possible result - the quotient (the number 2). However, if we know only the end result, namely, the number 2, and we ask ourselves, how can we arrive at the number 2, The answer permits several possibilities, arrived at by means of different methods: (a) 1 plus 1 equals 2; (b) 4-2 equals 2; (c) 1 x 2 equals 2; (d) 4 2 equals 2. Note that if other numbers are to come into play, the number of possibilities giving us the same result is infinite (since 5 - 3 also equals 2; 6 3 equals 2 etc. ad infinitum). Add to this another difficulty, which is prevalent in all methods of induction. Conclusions based on certain known data, when they are ampliative in nature, i.e. when they are extended to unknown areas, can have any validity at all on the assumption of everything else being equal, that is to say on an identity of prevailing conditions, and their action and counter-action upon each other. If we cannot be sure that the variations or changes would bear at least a close relationship to the existing variables in degree; if we cannot be sure that the changes would bear any resemblance in kind; if, furthermore, we cannot be sure that there were not other factors involved - such conclusions of inferences are absolutely valueless! For further illustration, I will refer to one of the points which I believe I mentioned during our conversation. In a chemical reaction, whether fissional or fusional, the introduction of a new catalyzer into the process, however minute the quantity of this new catalyzer may be, may change the whole tempo and form of the chemical process, or start an entirely new process. We are not yet through with the difficulties inherent in all so-called scientific theories concerning the origin of the world. Let us remember that the whole structure of science is based on observances of reactions and processes in the behavior of atoms in their present state, as they now exist in nature. Scientists deal with conglomerations of billions of atoms as these are already bound together, and as these relate to other existing conglomerations of atoms. Scientists know very little of the atoms in their pristine state; of how one single atom may react on another single atom in a state of separateness; much less of how parts of a single atom may react on other parts of the same or other atoms. One thing science considers certain - to the extent that any science can be certain, namely that the reactions of single atoms upon each other is totally different from the reactions of one conglomeration of atoms to another. We may now summarize the weaknesses, nay, hopelessness, of all so-called scientific theories regarding the origin and age of our universe: (a) These theories have been advanced on the basis of observable data during a relatively short period of time, of only a number of decades, and at any rate not more than a couple of centuries. (b) On the basis of such a relatively small range of known (though by no means perfectly) data, scientists venture to build theories by the weak method of extrapolation, and from the consequent to the antecedent, extending to many thousands (according to them, to millions and billions) of years! (c) In advancing such theories, they blithely disregard factors universally admitted by all scientists, namely, that in the initial period of the birth of the universe, conditions of temperature, atmospheric pressure, radioactivity, and a host of other cataclystic factors, were totally different from those existing in the present state of the universe. (d) The consensus of scientific opinion is that there must have been many radioactive elements in the initial stage which now no longer exist, or exist only in minimal quantities; some of them - elements that cataclystic potency of which is known even in minimal doses. (e) The formation of the world, if we are to accept these theories, began with a process of colligation (of binding together) of single atoms or the components of the atom and their conglomeration and consolidation, involving totally unknown processes and variables. In short, of all the weak scientific theories, those which deal with the origin of the cosmos and with its dating are (admittedly by the scientists themselves) the weakest of the weak. It is small wonder (and this, incidentally, is one of the obvious refutations of these theories) that the various scientific theories concerning the age of the universe not only contradict each other, but some of them are quite incompatible and mutually exclusive, since the maximum date of one theory is less than the minimum date of another. If anyone accepts such a theory uncritically, it can only lead him into fallacious and inconsequential reasoning. Consider, for example, the so-called evolutionary theory of the origin of the world, which is based on the assumption that the universe evolved out of existing atomic and subatomic particles which, by an evolutionary process, combined to form the physical universe and our planet, on which organic life somehow developed also by an evolutionary process, until homo-sapiens emerged. It is hard to understand why one should readily accept the creation of atomic and subatomic particles in a state which is admittedly unknowable and inconceivable, yet should be reluctant to accept the creation of planets, or organisms, or a human being, as we know these to exist. The argument from the discovery of the fossils is by no means conclusive evidence of the great antiquity of the earth, for the following reasons: (a) In view of the unknown conditions which existed in prehistoric" times, conditions of atmospheric pressures, temperatures, radioactivity, unknown catalyzers, etc., etc. as already mentioned, conditions that is, which could have caused reactions and changes of an entirely different nature and tempo from those known under the present-day orderly processes of nature, one cannot exclude the possibility that dinosaurs existed 5722 years ago, and became fossilized under terrific natural cataclysms in the course of a few years rather than in millions of years; since we have no conceivable measurements or criteria of calculations under those unknown conditions. (b) Even assuming that the period of time which the Torah allows for the age of the world is definitely too short for fossilization (although I do not see how one can be so categorical), we can still readily accept the possibility that G‑d created ready fossils, bones or skeletons (for reasons best known to him), just as he could create ready living organisms, a complete man, and such ready products as oil, coal or diamonds, without any evolutionary process. As for the question, if it be true as above (b), why did G‑d have to create fossils in the first place? The answer is simple: We cannot know the reason why G‑d chose this manner of creation in preference to another, and whatever theory of creation is accepted, the question will remain unanswered. The question, Why create a fossil? is no more valid than the question, Why create an atom? Certainly, such a question cannot serve as a sound argument, much less as a logical basis, for the evolutionary theory. What scientific basis is there for limiting the creative process to an evolutionary process only, starting with atomic and subatomic particles - a theory full of unexplained gaps and complications, while excluding the possibility of creation as given by the Biblical account? For, if the latter possibility be admitted, everything falls neatly into pattern, and all speculation regarding the origin and age of the world becomes unnecessary and irrelevant. It is surely no argument to question this possibility by saying, Why should the Creator create a finished universe, when it would have been sufficient for Him to create an adequate number of atoms or subatomic particles with the power of colligation and evolution to develop into the present cosmic order? The absurdity of this argument becomes even more obvious when it is made the basis of a flimsy theory, as if it were based on solid and irrefutable arguments overriding all other possibilities. The question may be asked, If the theories attempting to explain the origin and age of the world are so weak, how could they have been advanced in the first place? The answer is simple. It is a matter of human nature to seek an explanation for everything in the environment, and any theory, however far-fetched, is better than none, at least until a more feasible explanation can be devised. You may now ask, In the absence of a sounder theory, why then isn't the Biblical account of creation accepted by these scientists? The answer, again, is to be found in human nature. It is a natural human ambition to be inventive and original. To accept the Biblical account deprives one of the opportunity to show one's analytic and inductive ingenuity. Hence, disregarding the Biblical account, the scientist must devise reasons to justify his doing so, and he takes refuge in classifying it with ancient and primitive mythology and the like, since he cannot really argue against it on scientific grounds. If you are still troubled by the theory of evolution, I can tell you without fear of contradiction that it has not a shred of evidence to support it. On the contrary, during the years of research and investigation since the theory was first advanced, it has been possible to observe certain species of animal and plant life of a short life-span over thousands of generations, yet it has never been possible to establish a transmutation from one species into another, much less to turn a plant into an animal. Hence such a theory can have no place in the arsenal of empirical science. The theory of evolution, to which reference has been made, actually has no bearing on the Torah account of Creation. For even if the theory of evolution were substantiated today, and the mutation of species were proven in laboratory tests, this would still not contradict the possibility of the world having been created as stated in the Torah, rather than through the evolutionary process. The main purpose of citing the evolutionary theory was to illustrate how a highly speculative and scientifically unsound theory can capture the imagination of the uncritical, so much so that it is even offered as a scientific" explanation of the mystery of Creation, despite the fact that the theory of evolution itself has not been substantiated scientifically and is devoid of any real scientific basis. Needless to say, it is not my intent to cast aspersions on science or to discredit the scientific method. Science cannot operate except by accepting certain working theories or hypotheses, even if they cannot be verified, though some theories die hard even when they are scientifically refuted or discredited (the evolutionary theory is a case in point). No technical progress would be possible unless certain physical laws are accepted, even though there is no guaranty that the law will repeat itself. However, I do wish to emphasize, as already mentioned, that science has to do only with theories but no with certainties. All scientific conclusions, or generalizations, can only be probable in a greater or lesser degree according to the precautions taken in the use of the available evidence, and the degree of probability necessarily decreases with the distance from the empirical facts, or with the increase of the unknown variables, etc., as already indicated. If you will bear this in mind, you will readily realize that there can be no real conflict between any scientific theory and the Torah. My above remarks have turned out somewhat lengthier than intended, but they are still all too brief in relation to the misconception and confusion prevailing in many minds. Moreover, my remarks had to be confined to general observations, as this is hardly the medium to go into greater detail. If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to write to me. To conclude on a note touched upon in our conversation: The Mitzvah of putting on Tefillin every week-day, on the hand facing the heart, and on the head - the seat of the intellect, indicates, among other things, the true Jewish approach: performance first (hand), with sincerity and wholeheartedness, followed by intellectual comprehension (head); i.e. na'aseh first, then v'nishma. May this spirit permeate your intellect and arouse your emotive powers and find expression in every aspect of the daily life, for the essential thing is the deed. With blessing,
60 posted on 12/02/2017 8:40:58 PM PST by Phinneous (Moshiach Now!)
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