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Questions about Las Vegas
Flopping Aces ^ | 10-10-17 | John Velisek USN (Ret.)

Posted on 10/10/2017 8:28:45 AM PDT by Starman417

Edited on 10/10/2017 8:51:53 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The investigation of the shooting in Las Vegas continues. A crime scene so massive and with so many different scenarios will be completely covered and no question will go unanswered. Sheriff Joseph Lombardo is doing a masterful job and both he and other investigators have worked countless hours attempting to find out the what and why of what happened.

As always, we will not get all the answers that the American people are seeking. In the aftermath of the worst mass shooting in American history it is imperatives that the answers are clear, concise and honest. I am convinced that at the end of all the investigations, and the media has moved on to the next major story, there will still be questions about why this happened and how did it happen.

Questions remain, some may be just conspiracy and some may be factual. In either case, they are questions that need to be answered. One question is that the authorities are stating that Paddock did not check in until September 28th. A question arises when individuals who work at the Mandalay Bay assert that Paddock ordered room service on the 27th for two people. Who was that other person and why are authorities stating that Paddock did not check in until the 28th? Sources at the Mandalay Bay are claiming that Paddock actually checked in on the 25th.

Paddock, an out of shape former accountant with no military training is not capable of pulling this off by himself. With no experience in guns, how could he have fired as rapidly and accurately as he did. As a military veteran and have experience with fully automatic weapons, they can be hard to control, jam easily and tend to overheat. Using an automatic weapon effectively takes extensive training and experience in the use of such weapons. Being a retired accountant senior citizen, I do not understand how Paddock had the skill or the stamina to fire for so long.The overheating is also a reason why suppressors (silences in Hillarys vernacular) are never used on such weapons. They have a tendency to melt and more quickly jam the gun.

How is law enforcement convinced that there was only one shooter? There are pictures that clearly show rifle fire from a lower window. And why are there recordings of law enforcement talking of another possible suspect on the fourth floor?

At the scene of the crime, why were all the exits blocked. Those 22,000 happy concert goers found themselves trapped, with ability to get out or to seek cover. The ten foot walls kept the multitude of people in the fire zone with no way out.

I have been to Las Vegas many times, living in Southern California and I can not understand how anyone, much less Paddock can carry so many weapons and ammunition into a room without being seen.

Even Trey Gowdy, the no nonsense Representative from South Carolina is skeptical. In Rep. Gowdy’s words, he is skeptical that the amount of premeditation and can not believe that a single person could have done this without assistance.

Further questions include: why so many rifles and weapons if there was only one shooter. Were the rifles that were there for another shooter? Were they all Paddock’s weapons and was he funded by others to have that so many weapons?

Paddock was found dead in his room by a self inflicted gunshot wound. Law enforcement states that he shot himself when they blew the door open to his room. Is there a ballistic report on the bullet that killed him that will close out that part of the investigation?

The broken windows on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay are the supposed site where the firing of the bullets that killed 58 people took place. Automatic weapons have a very pronounced flash, why were there no flashes from the 32nd floor? I have not heard whether flash suppressors were used, but even then there would be some flash. There are purported to be flashes from the 4th floor, but that has not been confirmed. The audio of the online videos and other videos it clearly be heard overlapping gunfire from two different weapons. Barring any further explanation, how can Paddock be responsible for all the carnage.'

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are we to also not question the latest that the security guard was shot six minutes before the carnage began....six minutes....and not a single cop, swat, etc, heading for the door to stop this mayhem in the interim??

really?

or is that a silly question too?


41 posted on 10/10/2017 9:28:36 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: raygunfan

Of course the investigation is ongoing. They want to work thru every detail completely. Maybe there IS a conspiracy; the only way to know is meticulous examination of actual evidence, not half-baked hypothesis by crackpots circulated on the Internet.

I’m chastising people for “bringing up questions” because (A) the questions have been repeatedly answered all week, (B) the answers are ridiculously obvious, and (C) they’re rhetorical questions intended to make a stupid point couched as “innocent questions”. Questions like “how did he get it all up there?” have obvious answers like “$10 and a bellhop”.

We still don’t have an answer to “why?”. Perpetuating questions with obvious simple answers, and proliferating stupid conspiracy theories, won’t help us get there.


42 posted on 10/10/2017 9:29:33 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Starman417
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Scientific Analysis: There were multiple shooters
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43 posted on 10/10/2017 9:29:37 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: raygunfan

You can ask. That you don’t have an answer doesn’t mean someone’s wrong.


44 posted on 10/10/2017 9:30:10 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I’m not quite sure he blew his brains out. There’s blood on his shirt. I don’t think there would be blood on his face if he was missing the back of his skull. Blood would have an easy exit. I think he has a chest wound, blood rushed to his skull and gushed out his mouth and nose.


45 posted on 10/10/2017 9:30:15 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Little Pig

Actually the second broken window lines up pretty well with the exits in the rear of the venue. Fire at the stage area to begin killing folks there and setting the crowd into a panicked run for they exit, then start dropping targets as the pile up at the choke points.


46 posted on 10/10/2017 9:30:40 AM PDT by TallahasseeConservative
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To: Sacajaweau

I have practically no gun magazines in my house. Reading about them is quite different from using them.


47 posted on 10/10/2017 9:31:46 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ctdonath2; raygunfan

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Lie of the Year:

>> “We still don’t have an answer to why” <<

Total BS!

It was well organized Antifa Terror.
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48 posted on 10/10/2017 9:32:58 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Rumierules

“Nothing wrong with questions. But questions that suggest flimsy theories can be frustrating for those who: (1) have seen the same/similar question elsewhere (over and over); and (2) are frustrated with the sloppy investigation being conducted and are looking for clarity (but keep having to weed through more sloppy thinking).”

This.

I’m trying to find good info, but have to slog thru piles of duplication of flimsy inanities.


49 posted on 10/10/2017 9:33:32 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Not that it means much at this point but in one of the press conferences they said no recordings were on the iPad from any cameras.


50 posted on 10/10/2017 9:33:59 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: editor-surveyor

If there’s no question, then you should be able to post clear objective evidence - without a proliferation of verbal abuse.


51 posted on 10/10/2017 9:34:15 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ctdonath2

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I posted Mike Adams’ well explained analysis.

So far he is the sole real scientist to do one.

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52 posted on 10/10/2017 9:36:43 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
I saw the picture...Gross....He's face up...Blood all over his forehead and upper head and down the sides of his head and in a big pool of blood....say from his ears up....

Keep looking around until you find the right picture. If I can find it again, I'll post the link....maybe..I thought it was too gross to post.

53 posted on 10/10/2017 9:39:12 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TallahasseeConservative

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The analysis is done, we now know to an absolute certainty that there were two major shooters, in addition to the fake security guards doing the shooting on the ground.
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54 posted on 10/10/2017 9:43:08 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: sevlex
The lead FBI invetigator - Aaron Rouse, just by happenstance, is married to John Podesta’s daughter.

Proven False statement.

55 posted on 10/10/2017 9:43:08 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: ctdonath2

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Flimsy inanities is an excellent description of your posts on this subject.

Why are you always a misdirecting propagandist here?
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56 posted on 10/10/2017 9:46:25 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Starman417

What about the ballistic data?

The barrel of a bump-fire rifle moves around a LOT when being used - and from that angle and distance, it’s hard to see how a single target gets hit three consecutive times - with either .223 or .308.

http://www.ktuu.com/content/news/Las-Vegas-victim-to-return-home-to-North-Pole-449511183.html


57 posted on 10/10/2017 9:47:32 AM PDT by DBG8489
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To: editor-surveyor

Analysis by who? Those on the scene or internet forensic specialists? Where are the witnesses coming out talking about shooters in the crowd? Do I trust the Feds? No, because I worked with them. But I can tell you that the SO and LVMPD are good guys and straight shooters, if there is more to this, they’ll be talking.


58 posted on 10/10/2017 9:52:00 AM PDT by TallahasseeConservative
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

Why wasn’t a whole body shot leaked? Seems odd one from upper chest to head and one from lower torso to feet. What’s in the middle?


59 posted on 10/10/2017 9:57:24 AM PDT by glenduh
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To: Slyfox; NFHale; Strac6; left that other site; Tilted Irish Kilt; Beave Meister; combat_boots; ...

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/09/holy-cow-the-official-mandalay-bay-massacre-narrative-just-completely-changed-latest-presser-video/#more-139665

Over 1,400 comments at the end.


60 posted on 10/10/2017 9:58:03 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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