Posted on 08/23/2017 3:16:06 PM PDT by Nextrush
You won’t find many folks here who will be interested in debating with Statist worshippers such as yourself. You might want to try DU. I’m sure they’re with you and Dirty Harry Reid in wanting to “hang ‘em high”.
What were those officers names? BTW, BLM aren't LEOs, they are property managers.
Cliven is not, right?
News to me.
They had driven all the rest into ruin.
The feds wanted the Hammonds and Bundy's gone and they wanted their land.
You’ve been told by more than a dozen people that you’re a liar, a jackboot- licker and a brainwashed leftist tool. How much more of a hint do you need to understand that you’re not welcome on FR?
Good grief. Go away.
You explain how what the judge and prosecutor did wasn't Tyrannical. They've already tried these guys twice. They yanked a defendant off the stand while he was testifying. They prevented the Defense from using the arguments of their choice. That isn't "American values"?
These are Patriots fighting for what they believed was right: not some common criminals off the street.
And we've already seen federal agents lying about the circumstances surrounding the gunning down of another person in this area.
The feds in this case are clearly and maniacally out of control, and any conservative who believes in Justice can see this.
The gross misbehavior by both the prosecution and the judge in this case has been well-documented. If you choose to ignore it, and the extreme overcharging, and the ridiculous act of keeping these men in jail even after the initial mistrial, then that's your problem.
You're clearly a Statist of the most extreme kind. I wouldn't be surprised if you were cheering Janet Reno on in Waco, and thought Randy Weaver's unarmed wife Vicki deserved to be shot by a Federal Sniper while she held her 10-month old baby in her arms...
You speak for Jim now?
They admitted to starting the fires to cover up evidence of their poaching.
Answer my questions please. None of this is relevant or justifies advocating targeting and killing our nation’s law enforcement officers.
If it’s another hung jury, can they re-trial?
Can you provide a link?
Um, no. I don't even know what your questions are, or care. I'm sure if they are relevant, they will have been dealt with during the course of the trial.
For two straight trials now, the all-powerful ferragummit—even with a clearly crooked, hand-picked judge and prosecutor—has not been able to make its case.
Indeed, the tactics of the State betray a clear intent to railroad these defendants. Unethically hamstringing the defense, and yanking a defendant off the stand while he was attempting to testify in his own behalf. In what universe does that happen? It's no wonder that the jury b-tch-slapped the ferragummit in the only way they could: by showing them their case is garbage.
After two tries, most ethical prosecutors get the hint that they;re highly unlikely to get a conviction.
In all my years, I've never heard of them trying a third time. It's almost umprcedented—and for good reason.
None of this is relevant
Preventing a defendant from testifying in his own defense isn't relevant?
Preventing the Defense from making Constitutional argument isn't relevant?
or justifies advocating targeting and killing our nations law enforcement officers. If any law enforcement officers had been killed—or even targeted—then those who have done such things can be charged with crimes.
So either that didn't happen, or, once again, the ferragummit hasn't been able to make the case that it did.
In any event, to keep these men in jail any longer—while they await yet another obvious kangaroo court—is absolutely unconscionable.
A runaway ferragummit conducting malicious prosecutions is what we're witnessing in this case—a government so out-of-control that they can't even make their case when the judge tries to cheat for the prosecution at trial. A judge is supposed to be impartial between the two sides. Instead, this judge has practically been arguing the prosecution's case for it. Fortunately, juries in the area appear to be rather well informed.
” Bundys are admitted thieves, Hammonds are admitted poachers. How do you, if you are patriotic and conservative American, justify their actions AND those of people coming armed to their defense? This is armed gangs. No different than Antifa, Black Panthers, and others using violence and intimidation. No loyal American of any political bent should support them. They rejected US, took up arms and threatened to use them against law enforcement. You seriously support and defending killing our law enforcement? They admitted sighting officers, that is one trigger pull from a dead officer. Defend that please.”
Prove your assertions please.
Typical way a pig lies, too. It has a certain smell to it...
Take some portion of truth --add two parts lie-- then present that as if it were actual truth.
Write up your reports in that way, do you?
I would say "go to hell" but that would be unnecessary -- you require no encouragement, for you surely will go to hell --for bearing false witness, among your other sins. There's probably enough of those of those 'other' offenses, trespasses & outright willful violations (it only takes one, particularly of that last) in addition to this habit you have of casually lying.
You do it most everyday, don't you? Mix lies in with truth, I mean, not just simpler, less grievous sinning not including making false accusation against others.
By now, you wouldn't be able to make amends even if you wanted to, because you've lost track of how many times you've stretched what truth there was to some deal into being a pack of lies.
But you don't care. Correct?
You think there is no 'God', no eternal and all-knowing righteous judge? That's it, isn't it?
You do not believe He cares, so you don't. Is that it?
Feel free to tell me that I am wrong (if I am). But just one thing -- don't lie to me about whatever it is you may chose to say in reply. If you did, I'd sense it, and everything about this would just get worse.
The Feds wanted the land for political payoffs, so they refused to cash the lease payment checks.
They then claimed that the Bundy ranch was in violation of the lease, and attempted to round up steal their livestock to put them out of business permanently.
Clear enough for you?
Why do we have so many federal police organizations?
I can understand border agents because this is a constutionally shared police power between states and the federal government. But the Feds have so many militarized agencies it’s ridiculous.
There is way too much Federal lands in the West; most of it should go to the states, and there would be little need for federal agents to protect Federal lands.
The states should make their own drug laws, so DEA agents are not needed. Disputes between states over drug laws should be handled by federal courts. States should do their own drug enforcement.
IRS and their agents should be discontinued.likewise for EPA, education.
I’m not too impressed with the FBI as the agency has been hopelessly infiltrated by leftists. If the FBI is going to investigate, let them focus on congress and Federal employees, not the general public. States can do this.
Now, if you care about federal agents, if we have fewer agents, and they took the constitution/BOR seriously, they would get more respect and public support. Putting the protestors in “free speech zones” was not good PR.
You are apparently some type of antifa shill.
Prove that you aren’t.
American Standoff
At the end Mrs. Hammond say she still loves her country but sure wishes someone could fix it. Apologies for using "all" but it's simply stunning and everyone should invest the 90 minutes to watch it.
Here's the link.
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