Posted on 07/23/2017 3:18:02 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
Hitler’s generals and admirals could not get him the transport or protect them to cross the channel. Would have taken more than the Normandy invasion. Even Hitler had enough sense not to overrule his generals and to attempt it.
Waiting on the sequel.
When Hitler invaded the USSR, he had a track record of running roughshod over all opposition. His army was experienced and his air force considered invincible by everyone at the time. It took only a month to conquer France, and the USSR was not considered to be comparable to France in military capability. In WWI Germany had dictated peace terms to Lenin.So when the Nazis invaded the USSR, initially rolling over all resistance and putting the Russians to flight and capturing soldiers by the thousands and tens of thousands, the over/under was about 6 weeks for Hitler to be dictating terms to the USSR again. And the USSR had plentiful petroleum resources which looked ripe for the taking, and would have been a major addition to Germany’s access to petroleum. Which would have made Germany that much stronger yet.
Harry Hopkins, who although his health was death warmed over was in Britain at the time, asked for FDR's approval to go to Moscow and find out what was what. Churchill gave him a letter of recommendation telling Stalin that in his experience Hopkins could speak for FDR. Hopkins found a furious Stalin who told him that, without aid, he would fight Hitler for a year. And he convinced Hopkins that with US aid, Stalin would be able to fight Hitler indefinitely. FDR immediately diverted some aid from Britain, which he knew needed all the help he could provide, to the USSR. Some who learned of it thought FDR was making a ridiculous mistake.
At the last meeting between Stalin and FDR, Stalin toasted, “To U.S. production. Without it the war could not have been won.”
The U.S. should NEVER put itself in that position
Look up Pusan.
I agree with Buchanan on that one. FDR used the War to increase his own power and control at home. The war with Japan was probably unavoidable even if we entered that one immediatly because FDR set up the conditions for it (I am neutral on whether that is believable but it is commonly claimed). Hawaii was seen as a dagger aimed at Japanese ambitions in the Pacific which ultimately included control of the entire Pacific as well as the straits and all shipping in the Eastern Indian Ocean.
The British AF were downing German bombers and fighters at rather a rapid clip but at a distance that the soldiers couldn’t see.
They lost 106 aircraft, the Germans lost 156. A good score by the British RAF.
Had the Germans successfully bombed the beaches they would not have won the war. .
The British lost 6 destroyers early in the fight and held the rest in reserve other than moving in one at a time for rescue.
A remarkable battle fought brilliantly by the British, the French and the Belgians.
The Germans could have won the war on the Eastern front had that little corporal let his Generals do their job. If they had won in the east, things would have turned out differently. I'm not saying they would have not been ultimately defeated, but certainly not by 1945.
There were actually reviewers complaining about the lack of blacks and women in the movie. You’re joking; they weren’t.
There was a videogame out in the last year or so that had (I kid you not) black women Nazi soldiers.
Looking back, Pusan in Korea was close to being on the brink of a Dunkirk-esque situation back in 1950. Plus 28K American troops are trip wire hostage on the peninsula today. With a depleted navy(and air force), could we evacuate today? Best plans can go awry.
I don't know who these "some said it plodded, was boring" movie critics are but they didn't see the same movie as I did.
The movie has three plots woven into the whole story and it was very well done.
The plot is divided into three stories covering land, sea and air. The story follows the troops on the beaches trying to get home. The civilian boats headed from England to rescue them and transport them back home across the channel. And some fighter planes providing air cover for the troops on land and in the boats returning to England.
The movie is neither plodding, boring or any other negative critique one might come up with. It is fast moving and almost non-stop action. Showed how violent and dangerous war is to the troops fighting it, especially in this case where their backs were up against the sea and they had no defenses. Sitting ducks.
I see a lot of movies. This is one of the best this year.
This is not intended a put down to you; your observation has been repeated in many quarters, but -
WHY would anyone , in this day and age, go to see the movie knowing nothing about Dunkirk?
Again, I'm sure you are aware of the history, but I have no sympathy - hell I have plenty of resentment for - the historical illiterates who walk out of that theater wondering why they weren't spoon fed the remedial history that they missed while smoking dope and playing video games on their cell phones.
I love Nolan films but this is revisionist garbage. Hitler did not want war with England-nor did England want war with Germany. He let the Brits go. WWI and WWII drained Europe of their best and brightest. The Muslims will take over without a single Division. Just time and European stupidity. This is their WWIII and they don’t even see it. Their best and brightest were killed off long ago before leaving heirs to take their place.
So much for watching his gas to keep enough to get back home.
Aye. Or if he had decided to violate the treaty with Turkey and swung South for the oil fields and then came back for Russia in the Spring
I didn’t see and Asian or American Indians in it either. /sarc/
However, von Ribbentrop, hated the Brits, since he wasn't invited to all the nice parties when he was Ambassador to Britain, and gradually convinced Hitler to fight the British.
Hitler had no choice, Stalin was ready to invade by July 15, 1941.
Before I went Saturday night I read up on the battle on line. It made it enjoyable and I completely understood what was going on.
If Moscow falls, there’s a good chance that Stalin is overthrown in a coup. Perhaps Russia gets a non-Bolshevik government and beats the Germans, which would have been the best-case scenario.
If Moscow falls, there’s a good chance that Stalin is overthrown in a coup. Perhaps Russia gets a non-Bolshevik government and beats the Germans, which would have been the best-case scenario.
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