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City: You Can't Sell Blueberries Unless You Affirm Gay Marriage
The Papua New Guinea Post-Courier ^ | June 1, 2017 | Fox News

Posted on 05/31/2017 10:57:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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Looking at this as just a political structure question and without implying any moral judgement (all politics is essentially moral judgement enforced by the state) the only counter measure that would work at this late stage would be an amendment to the legal codes of states and municipalities, perhaps backed up by a federal constitutional amendment, that guaranteed the right of the citizen to conduct his or her business according to his or her moral values, regardless of any other laws.

This could be given specific language on sexual orientation and gender issues, and worded so that similar actions might not be legally taken to discriminate against identifiable racial or religious groups. Or we could go full-libertarian and discriminate on any basis the individual chose.

I am not willing to concede the point that discrimination against sexual orientation is equal to racial discrimination, whether it is in legal codes or whatever, that remains a moral judgement and one likely to be based on religious beliefs. The state has already de facto taken the position of overturning religious belief on this issue and that seems overtly unconstitutional. A test case is needed, either this one, or the Portland wedding cake case, at the highest court level, and then political action is required to make the law conform to belief if that is not the outcome achieved.

People may think that this is a minor issue that is limited to a few cases, but over time this issue can explode into society-wide tests of belief on these issues and people of faith will find themselves unemployable and out of work in more and more sectors. For example, it could soon become normal practice to test all sorts of categories of employment for beliefs about sexual orientation, climate change, maybe even whether or not you believe Russia tampered with the election. Why not? Once this thought process jumps the shark, we are basically on the wrong side of the shark for good with no legal recourse.


21 posted on 06/01/2017 12:00:27 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (If I had a dollar for every time Stephen Colbert has made me laugh, I'd be broke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is time for anti-Communist loyalty oaths and background investigations on persons deemed suspect of holding party membership in organizations associated with the American Communist Party. Fair is fair.


22 posted on 06/01/2017 12:21:16 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Judge to City- hand in your resignations fro violating the constitutional rights of this farmer and wife


23 posted on 06/01/2017 12:38:12 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: FreedomStar3028

You’re right. I was too closely relating the mark with the AOD I guess. However on your point it is interesting that everybody on earth will follow the beast except those written in the book of life. So that means even atheists will worship the same entity certain other religions are following at the time.

“All who dwell on the earth will worship the beast — all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.”


24 posted on 06/01/2017 12:38:43 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: SaveFerris

oops typo on my $3.99 keyboard again - sigh

s/b “ I’m finding myself with less concern”


25 posted on 06/01/2017 12:39:07 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Hebrews 13:2 Do not forget to entertain strangers, for ... some have unwittingly entertained angels)
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To: Peter ODonnell

I think it is coming to that - you will be required to declare “loyalty” or agreement to a list of politically correct things. It will be the modern equivalent of being forced to worship the Emperor as a god.


26 posted on 06/01/2017 12:51:27 AM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: Peter ODonnell
I am not willing to concede the point that discrimination against sexual orientation is equal to racial discrimination

I wouldn't even go that far. These people don't discriminate against homosexuals. You could go to their stand and declare your homosexuality, and they would still sell you pumpkins, blueberries, apples,etc. They just won't rent their farm for homosexual marriages.

27 posted on 06/01/2017 1:45:33 AM PDT by j. earl carter
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To: GraceG

“Some pervert couple comes along, simply say we’ll get back to you or ignore the request. Why make an issue of it and make yourself a target? ]”

The answer is “Gay weddings? Yes, of course!”

We are having a special rate this week. Wedding plus reception is only $1,000,000,000,000 ...


28 posted on 06/01/2017 2:15:57 AM PDT by Reverend Wright (Build the wall !)
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To: Reno89519

Take their money and provide awful service. Make it such a horrible experience that they don’t come back.


29 posted on 06/01/2017 3:32:22 AM PDT by nhbob1
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To: nhbob1

Why do you have to abandon your religious beliefs?


30 posted on 06/01/2017 4:11:15 AM PDT by STJPII
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To: kelly4c

You are definitely on the right track with the route the unbelieving and hell-bound world is taking.

The “Mark” will only allow those tagged to buy & sell. It’s either an embedded chip or DNA modification that literally makes it impossible for those who have taken it to revert back to a God-Breathed creation. Think transhumanism and singularity technology.

I assume that those who take this mark with have to agree with all of the evil prerequisites that entail being tagged (liberal agendas of every sort imaginable).

The punishment for not taking it is death by beheading apparently. Gruesome and quick, though some authors have suggested that it’s for this very reason they choose the execution method in order to quickly harvest workable body parts for further testing and “improvements” or transplanting.

Liberals want Christians dead anyways and that conclusion should be apparent now with all of the poisonous hatred going on in this nation alone.

What liberal wouldn’t want to modify their body to be more “supernatural” or “perfect” immune to aging and all of the other side affects of living in a fallen world?


31 posted on 06/01/2017 4:14:42 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Americans are modern day Amorites ripe for destruction)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Very well put!


32 posted on 06/01/2017 4:15:53 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Americans are modern day Amorites ripe for destruction)
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To: Salvation

Catholic Ping


33 posted on 06/01/2017 4:41:16 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: skr

Well said.


34 posted on 06/01/2017 4:42:42 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Turn the farm into a CHRISTIAN NO GO ZONE like the other faith does in Michigan. Problem solved.


35 posted on 06/01/2017 4:59:10 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: Reverend Wright

Yes, for the right price...And all proceeds will be donated to Trump’s reelection campaign.


36 posted on 06/01/2017 5:00:49 AM PDT by Thidwick (If a moose can figure it out, why can't a liberal?)
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To: TBP

[Clearly unconstitutional.]

I hope people will buy their produce directly from their farm and boycott the farmer’s market. This is a set up.


37 posted on 06/01/2017 5:28:03 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They don’t host ANY weddings at their farm.

Stopped that over a year ago.


38 posted on 06/01/2017 5:32:47 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
city officials told the devout Catholic family that their blueberries and sweet corn were not welcome at the farmer’s market – and neither were they.

It would be a shame if the Farmers' Market were disturbed in any way.

ML/NJ

39 posted on 06/01/2017 5:47:07 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

"Come on, Thomas. Sign the Act. We all have!"

40 posted on 06/01/2017 5:53:49 AM PDT by Oratam
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