Posted on 04/20/2017 8:23:41 PM PDT by bryan999
This is a well presented and easy to understand video which appears to make a solid case that police munitions were fired by the Berkeley Police Department against Trump supporters, and in support of AntiFA thugs, last weekend.
The video was created by Thomas Wictor who is continuing to assemble more evidence. WATCH, it is rather stunning to realize what could be happening.
If the video is correct the FBI needs to immediately open an investigation into the use of police munitions against political opponents by Berkeley Police.
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Saw this earlier.
I agree with his assessment. They either supported Antifa or were under ‘stand down’ orders.
Or BOTH!
I don’t know who is doing what in these vids. I may have missed it, but I didn’t see police throwing the devices. It could have been police, or someone gave antifa the devices, and it was antifa who did it.
The blue states are entirely lawless. What’s worse, they’re using the cops against their political foes as was seen in San Jose, Portland and now Bezerkeley.
Martial law will have to be declared.
The left needs a good culling anyway.
The next time the AntiFA children have a collective hissy fit, the Army should cordon off a two-square block area, enforce the blockade, and let the snowflakes have their temper tantrum.
Note that I wouldn’t trust the Campus Kiddie Kops or the Berkeley Mall Cops to do anything. And I’m not sure about the State Cops or the National Guard, either.
There is no doubt that they were ordered to stand down. It’s a stretch to claim, as the video does, that they were participating in the riot. The gas canisters and flash bangs could have been stolen by antifa.
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I thought those could be purchased at police supply shops or online.
Apparently it requires a firearm license:
TRANSACTIONS IN EXPLOSIVE-TYPE DESTRUCTIVE DEVICES
ATF has been asked about the controls on firearms which also contain explosives, such as ‘flash-bang’ grenades. Firearms of this type are subject to the Gun Control Act (GCA)(Title 18, U.S.C., Chapter 44), the National Firearms Act (NFA)(Title 26, U.S.C., Chapter 53), and the Federal Explosives laws (Title 18, U.S.C., Chapter 40). Provisions of the Arms Export Control Act may also apply.
In both the GCA and the NFA, a firearm is defined to include a destructive device. A destructive device is further defined (in part) as:
(a) any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas (1) bomb, (2) grenade, (3) rocket having a propellant charge of more than 4 ounces, (4) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce, (5) mine, or (6) similar device;
Accordingly, this type of destructive device is not only a firearm but is also an explosive subject to all explosives regulatory provisions including specific storage, distance, licensing, and other requirements.
While there is a general exemption under the Federal explosives laws for work performed under Government contract, if you are in the business of importing, manufacturing, or dealing in explosive-type destructive devices, you will need the appropriate firearms and explosives licenses or permit and special (occupational) tax (SOT) under the NFA. If your activity is being conducted under a United States Government contract, you may apply for an exemption from the SOT.
If you import explosive-type destructive devices, you must:
Have a Federal firearms license (FFL) as an importer of destructive devices, ammunition for destructive devices, or armor piercing ammunition (Type 11)
Pay the SOT as an importer of firearms (Class 1)
Have a license as an importer of explosives unless the activity is in performance of a government contract
Register under the Arms Export Control Act as an importer
If you manufacture the explosives to be used in the manufacture of explosive-type destructive devices, you must:
Have a Federal firearms license (FFL) as a manufacturer of destructive devices, ammunition for destructive devices, or armor piercing ammunition (Type 10)
Pay the SOT as a manufacturer of firearms (Class 2)
Have a license as a manufacturer of explosives unless the activity is in performance of a government contract.
If you acquire the explosives to be used in the manufacture of explosive-type destructive devices, you must:
Have a Federal firearms license (FFL) as a manufacturer of destructive devices, ammunition for destructive devices or armor piercing ammunition (Type 10)
Pay the SOT as a manufacturer of firearms (Class 2)
Have a license as a dealer in explosives unless the activity is in performance of a Government contract.
If you deal in explosive-type destructive devices, you must:
Have a Federal firearms license (FFL) as a dealer or manufacturer in destructive devices (Type 09/Type 10)
Pay the SOT as a dealer or manufacturer in firearms (Class 3/Class 2)
Have a license as a dealer in explosives unless the activity is in performance of a Government contract
In limited circumstances, a person could acquire explosive-type destructive devices by having a permit as a user of high explosives. The acquisition would only be for the person’s own business use or interstate transport.
Very weak. Berkley police do suck, but that “evidence” was laughable. It produced a lot of smoke so it HAD to be a police smoke? It was bigger than an M-80 so it HAD to be a police stun grenade?
And even -if- it was police grade ordinance, that stuff is everywhere and widely available.
This is weak.
PING!!!
Article and comments, esp #9
which describes the various munitions requirements.
Thanks, bryan999
Apparently 4 oz. is the limit. Under that = legal!
From the November 2008 ATF FFL Newsletter:
ATF has been asked about the controls on firearms which also contain explosives, such as ‘flashbang’ grenades. Firearms of this type are subject to the Gun Control Act (GCA)(Title 18, U.S.C., Chapter 44), the National Firearms Act (NFA)(Title 26, U.S.C., Chapter 53), and the Federal Explosives laws (Title 18, U.S.C., Chapter 40). Provisions of the Arms Export Control Act may also apply.In both the GCA and the NFA, a firearm is defined to include a destructive device. A destructive device is further defined (in part) as:
(a) any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas (1) bomb, (2) grenade, (3) rocket having a propellant charge of more than 4 ounces, (4) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter ounce, (5) mine, or (6) similar device;
Accordingly, this type of destructive device is not only a firearm but is also an explosive subject to all explosives regulatory provisions including specific storage, distance, licensing, and other requirements.
While there is a general exemption under the Federal explosives laws for work performed under Government contract, if you are in the business of importing, manufacturing, or dealing in explosive-type destructive devices, you will need the appropriate firearms and explosives licenses or permit and special (occupational) tax (SOT) under the NFA. If your activity is being conducted under a United States Government contract, you may apply for an exemption from the SOT
It’s stolen material, probably by an antifa working inside a police agency or a supply company. Obama was in league with these antifa criminals so nothing was done to bring them down. Sessions needs to infiltrate antifa and put a bunch of them in prison.
Looking at the list of items for sale and the video in the discussion —
sure looks to me like these were aerial flashbangs. Police would have fired those.
But I’m no expert.
Your link though does prove that ANTIFA could easily acquire police style munitions.
The flashbang caught in the video looks to be the large size used by police.
I suspect it to be stolen police gear. Some of it looks big enough. But you’re right that the video offers absolutely no evidence that the Berkeley police were antifa.
And who would have given ANTIFA police issue only explosive devices?
There looked to be police spotters on some of the roofs.
Looked like someone suspiciously like police-uniformed wielding some sort of rifle-like device, similar to a launcher.
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