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Old And Busted: There Was No Wiretap. New Hotness: Trump Declassified Sensitive Information
RedState ^ | March 5, 2017

Posted on 03/05/2017 7:37:56 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

This is becoming funnier by the minute. Yesterday morning, Trump’s assertion that he and his campaign had been the subject of a wiretap ordered by the Obama administration was being laughed at. By midday the story was a denial that Obama himself had ordered an wiretap on Trump’s personal phone. By afternoon a consensus had developed that Trump was, in fact, the target, directly or indirectly, of surveillance. This morning on the talk shows the existence of the wiretap is treated as “of course it happened.” And now we’re at the stage where “Trump did a very bad thing by talking about it.” Via ABC News With tweetstorm, Trump may have exercised exclusive declassification authority.

If – through his tweets – Trump revealed secret government information about surveillance, he exercised an exclusive privilege afforded only to the president as the ultimate declassification authority.

If any other government employee had single-handedly made such revelations they could see prison time for potentially damaging U.S. national security, a former official with intimate knowledge of the government secrecy policies told ABC News.

“It’s an extremely serious offense,” ABC News Contributor Matt Olsen, who is the former director of the National Counterterrorism Center and a former FBI counsel, explained.

“Anyone who would reveal the existence of a wiretap would violate federal law,” he said. “It is against federal law to disclose the existence of a wiretap, whether that wiretap is for criminal purposes or intelligence purposes.”

Right now the only people in the world denying that electronic surveillance took place of either Trump, himself, or his campaign are Republicans who hate Trump. And James Clapper. But this is James Clapper we’re talking about.

It is sort of touching to see a news agency that has trafficked in all manner of leaked classified information that would get the leaker a long prison term suddenly concerned about national security. But it is hard to take it very seriously. The real point of this is to try to make Trump’s mention of the wiretap an issue. Up until now the Obama people have had the best of both worlds. They were able to leak about Trump and felt very safe that their own vulnerabilities would remain hidden behind security classification. If Trump wants to know how this movie ends he need look no further than Bush refusing to declassify information about the existence of Iraqi chemical weapons and the fact that US troops had been injured by them while allowing the media and Democrats to continue to falsely claim that there were no chemical weapons in Iraq.

In fact, the only reason this whole Trump-Putin-Russia thing has metastasized is because the evidence and even the allegations are surrounded in secrecy. If Trump wants this to go away he’s eventually going to have to present the intelligence community with an ultimatum: either you make the evidence public, or I do. Because, as the article accurately states, Trump holds the authority to declassify anything that he wishes to declassify.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: espionage; intelligence; obama; shadowgovernment; softcoup; trump; wiretap; wiretapping
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To: stylin19a
When I read the article, that very same statement jumped out at me:

"...“Anyone who would reveal the existence of a wiretap would violate federal law,” he said. “It is against federal law to disclose the existence of a wiretap, whether that wiretap is for criminal purposes or intelligence purposes...”

I am having trouble wrapping my brain around that.

21 posted on 03/05/2017 7:50:55 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: blackdog
Even if it was unquestionably illegal for the President of the United States to reveal the existence of a covert surveillance operation against him, I'd venture to guess that Trump could get away with it by proving that he learned of its existence through his own means while he was a private citizen outside of government, and before he was the President of the United States.

I'm about 90% certain that Trump learned about this surveillance while it was going on last year. And with every passing hour I'm getting more convinced that he used this knowledge to deliberately pass along disinformation that undermined Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

22 posted on 03/05/2017 7:52:26 PM PST by Alberta's Child (President Donald J. Trump ... Making America Great Again, 140 characters at a time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I recall that even the existence of an acronym under SCI was SECRET NOFORN. I think Clancy ruined it all...


23 posted on 03/05/2017 7:53:36 PM PST by Phinneous (Moshiach Now!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Good bet. Trump no doubt has dealt with corporate espionage during his career and knows how to deal with it.


24 posted on 03/05/2017 7:54:52 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (I held my nose, voted for Trump, then took a shower. All to defeat evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The LSM, GOPe, and ofher leftscum are getting desperate. Get your popcorn.


25 posted on 03/05/2017 7:55:01 PM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: piytar

The Dems and MSM specifically aren’t used to dealing with someone who actually fights back.


26 posted on 03/05/2017 7:56:15 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (I held my nose, voted for Trump, then took a shower. All to defeat evil.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most people - even Freepers - have no idea about Keyhole or even what it was. But great reference.


27 posted on 03/05/2017 7:56:50 PM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Didn’t Carter do the same thing regarding the B-2 bomber when he decided to cancel the B-1?


28 posted on 03/05/2017 7:58:33 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: rlmorel
One of the things you are told (actually, you read it) during your briefing for getting a security clearance is that "classified material which becomes public, through the mass media or by other means, remains classified at its original level of classification."

This is further explained: the fact that classified material becomes public through an unauthorized release does not constitute a waiver of your responsibility to protect the information, which means that you can't discuss it even if it becomes public.

The President, however, is a "source of classification." The President has many powers that ordinary people do not have.

There are many things that it is legal for the President to do, that it is not legal for someone who is not President to do.

29 posted on 03/05/2017 7:58:47 PM PST by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: silverleaf

I thought that too, then I read the Slate article mentioned in Jake Sullivan’s statement related to her tweet.
I am pretty sure Hillary got her info from that Slate article via Sullivan. (darn it)


30 posted on 03/05/2017 7:59:21 PM PST by stylin19a (Terrorists - "just because you don't see them doesn't mean they aren't there")
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To: piytar

I was sent out to buy up every copy of a certain weekly news magazine that I could put my hands on.


31 posted on 03/05/2017 7:59:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Steely Tom

Good rundown.


32 posted on 03/05/2017 8:00:00 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (I held my nose, voted for Trump, then took a shower. All to defeat evil.)
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To: Carl Vehse

I had a funny argument with somebody last year that told I could be charged for releasing information about Hilary’s health.

I told him to bring charges because I did not sign confidential information agreement to not release any information.

From what I understand, a citizen can speak about it, if they came across information about it.


33 posted on 03/05/2017 8:00:04 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Texas Fossil

Has the President signed such a document? He is the head of the executive branch and ALL its employees.


34 posted on 03/05/2017 8:00:21 PM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Carter did a lot of weird stuff for a nuclear submarine officer who should’ve known better.


35 posted on 03/05/2017 8:02:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Didn’t Carter do the same thing regarding the B-2 bomber when he decided to cancel the B-1?

Senator Patrick Leahy released highly classified information about an Air Force project to build "stealth" satellites, which disclosure resulted in the program being cancelled.

36 posted on 03/05/2017 8:02:24 PM PST by Steely Tom (Liberals think in propaganda)
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To: Texas Fossil

And especially it their initials were HRC


37 posted on 03/05/2017 8:04:07 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Steely Tom

Ahh. Thanks, that is clearer to me.


38 posted on 03/05/2017 8:08:04 PM PST by rlmorel (President Donald J. Trump ... Making Liberal Heads Explode, 140 Characters at a Time)
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“...“Anyone who would reveal the existence of a wiretap would violate federal law,” he said. “It is against federal law to disclose the existence of a wiretap, whether that wiretap is for criminal purposes or intelligence purposes...”

If the Nixon Watergate were in question here and Nixon were a Dem, it would seem that Woodward and Bernstein would be lawbreakers. Didn’t they disclose the existence of a wiretap for criminal purposes?

Yes, I know that’s not what it means, but I’m sure the talking heads would be sure to put that spin on it.


39 posted on 03/05/2017 8:10:20 PM PST by John Milner
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To: Lorianne

Yep.


40 posted on 03/05/2017 8:11:18 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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