Reality Check: Is # Pizzagate "Fake News" or Has It Just Not Been Officially Investigated?

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[Boogieman]

“There is a striking resemblance between the Podesta brothers, and two of the suspect composite drawings, which had previously been released”

What you’re not mentioning is that those “suspect composite drawings” are of only one suspect, not two, which kind of blows a hole in the whole “they look like the Podesta brothers” theory.

Anyway, who, besides random people on the internet is claiming that the Podesta brothers abducted or victimized Madeleine McCann? What evidence is there for this?

Zip, zilch, nada.

[Boogieman]

“I see you on a lot of these posts stating that there are no victims? I don’t know how you can look around the current state of our culture and say there are no victims?”

Well, it’s pretty easy because nobody has actually found any supposed victims.

The only replies I get when I point this out are people bringing up victims of other cases that they would like to conflate with “pizzagate”. That tactic itself just underlines how flimsy the theory is, for if theorists have to glom on to a bunch of other cases that we actually have evidence for, it just confirms how thin the evidence is for what they are proposing.

Now, in an actual criminal investigation, it doesn’t work like that. Having a victim is almost always the very first step of an investigation. You can’t go any further without a victim, because without a victim, it’s pretty hard to even establish that a crime has been committed, much less to get probable cause that any individual might have committed said crime. Pizzagate theorists approach the issue ass backwards, and unsurprisingly, have not managed to get very far with that approach.

[Boogieman]

“So what if there were actual “victims” that made accusations? That still doesn’t prove Podesta is guilty, right?”

Well, then you would at least have probable cause to get an actual investigation started. To get warrants. To have an actual chance to find real evidence on which someone could be convicted.

Without that, the best you can hope for is to rumor monger and gossip about people on the internet.

The fact that none of the pizzagate theorists seem concerned by the lack of victims tells me they are probably interested in the second option more than the first.

[higgmeister]

are you new here?

You know I've been here longer than you. The supposed code words for illegal sexual preferences is the most idiotic garbage a hoaxer could ever think up.

The scandal at Penn State involved specific individuals. This so called "Pizzagate" is made up nonsense for political intrigue.

[ptsal]

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[UCANSEE2]

And also.. who says they are?

Part I: Undercover investigation exposes groups plotting criminal activity at Trump inauguration

[humblegunner]

Well, we won’t have long to wait to see what happens.

I’l be surprised of this group accomplishes much more than holding a cardboard sign on a side street.

[magglepuss]

So I take it you believe the amber alert system is a bad idea too because we have no victims of a crime?

[BeauBo]

"What evidence is there for this? Zip."

There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

It has been exhaustively shown that the Podestas are seriously deviant with the creepy art that they choose to immerse themselves in, and that they have a highly unusual world-class network of relationships with known (convicted) pedophiles - including Clement Freud who invited them to his house near the crime scene, shortly before the crime - and who has been publicly linked to this crime in the British press (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/14/sir-clement-freud-exposed-as-a-paedophile-as-police-urged-to-pro/).

They are dead ringers for the suspects being sought (Scotland Yard had specifically concluded that they could not be sure if the sketches covered one or two suspects, before releasing the two). Also, John Podesta conducted an unusual bulk deletion of emails the day after the kidnapping.

You have to be willfully blind not see ANY evidence in all that.

Did you know that Besta Pizza, two doors down from Comet Ping Pong, and also implicated in the scandal (with a logo that incorporated a widely used pedophile motif), lists Andrew Kline as owner on their official business registry paperwork with D.C.? The same Andrew Kline who was appointed to the Department of Justice Human Trafficking Prosecution Unit?

Here is Andrew Kline (unsee this one too):

[little jeremiah]

The vibe, for want of a better word at the moment, of these debunkers, screams out loud, practically.

[Boogieman]

Well, first off, learn html or don’t try to include pictures in your post. Basic FReeper courtesy.

“It has been exhaustively shown that the Podestas are seriously deviant with the creepy art”

Lots of people are into “creepy art”. Liking “creepy art” is not a crime, and it’s not some sign that real police use to catch pedophiles either.

“that they have a highly unusual world-class network of relationships with known (convicted) pedophiles”

Political operatives are in the business of networking. They do it to raise money. I’m sure when pedophiles have money, scummy political operatives will are as happy to relieve them of it as they are to take it from law-abiding citizens. However, knowing a pedophile is still not a crime, and guilt-by-association doesn’t hold up in courts of law.

“They are dead ringers for the suspects being sought (Scotland Yard had specifically concluded that they could not be sure if the sketches covered one or two suspects, before releasing the two)”

Not true. Both of those sketches pizzagate folks try to match up with the Podesta brothers are of a single suspect, a lone man who was seen carrying a child.:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-24513267

Once again, we see that pizzagate theorists will not only play fast and loose with facts, but they will even lie about something anyone can debunk with a couple minutes of googling!

“The same Andrew Kline who was appointed to the Department of Justice Human Trafficking Prosecution Unit?”

Yes, and guess what? You guys haven’t managed to find a single person accusing him of any actual crimes either. Some “scandal” you got there...

[Boogieman]

No dummy, when there is an amber alert, you actually have people reporting a potential crime (kidnapping) to the police and naming a victim (the child named in the alert).

Amber alerts are also put out by people who actually have legal authority, instead of amateur internet detectives who don’t seem to understand basic concepts like “due process” or “evidence”.

[Mr. K]

EXACTLY!

There was a story this weekend about “the shooter” who went into comet pizza and with a rifle and started shooting

IT was all about how he was just mistaken and he’s really sorry and he should have handled it differently... So that clears up that, I guess- nothing further to see

[mad_as_he$$]

“And what parts are real?”

I have this nagging feeling that the “real” part hasn’t even been brought up yet.

[Mr. K]

The ‘code words’ in the emails for pizzagate are clearly coded messages.

Who talks about ‘pizza related activites’ that way?

[higgmeister]

The ‘code words’ in the emails for pizzagate are clearly coded messages.

Who talks about ‘pizza related activites’ that way?

Don't you think it is ludicrous that calling a Pizza place and asking for a cheese pizza could be code for sex with a child?

That is one of the most popular types of pizza. The liberal mischief makers are rolling on the floor laughing at idiot conservatives and this made-up witch hunt.

Go after John Podesta for his criminal activity. Get real evidence of his pedophilia. Look for real victims of his despicable behavior. But don't fall for this red-herring, wild goose chase, supposedly discovered through vague references in Wikileaks emails.