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Vanity: An interesting question just came to mind: Can Trump unseal Obama's records?
10 December 2016 | ResisTyr

Posted on 12/09/2016 9:16:06 PM PST by ResisTyr

Can The Donald legally unseal Obama's records? Talk about EARTHSHAKING!! 😮💫

Please help me out, all you FReepers "in the know." Thanks


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: obama; records; trump; unseal
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To: Timpanagos1
i think that would depend on the records and if there is an investigation by law enforcement making the request
21 posted on 12/09/2016 9:53:53 PM PST by Chode (You Owe Them Nothing - Not Respect, Not Loyalty, Not Obedience, NOTHING! ich bin ein Deplorable...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

His records having to do with his actions while in government will, if they are already not, become available.

Personal records cannot be made available without the consent of the person or a very specific court order.


22 posted on 12/09/2016 9:54:10 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Chode

How did Obama get the sealed divorce records of his opponent?


23 posted on 12/09/2016 9:55:34 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: ResisTyr
What do you mean by his records? Are you talking about his sealed records like college transcripts, or birth certificate that occurred before his Presidency?

If that is the case then no he cannot unseal those.

If you are talking about his time as President, then perhaps you missed this: White House starts moving Obama's records to Chicago, which means he is being denied access to them by removing them.

24 posted on 12/09/2016 9:55:36 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: cba123

A president does not have the authority to issue a search warrant.


25 posted on 12/09/2016 9:56:37 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Timpanagos1

Why does he need a search warrant?

He is the president. He can look at anything he wants to look at.

Now nobody can prosecute anyone on the basis of what he finds, but I think he can look at anything.

Again however, I am basing that not on any legal understanding. I could be totally wrong.

:D


26 posted on 12/09/2016 10:01:11 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Timpanagos1

Well, that’s true for PRIVATE records, but not all records are private. Grade transcripts, birth certificates, college applications, rental applications, drivers licenses and a bunch of others are PUBLIC records that anyone with addresses to the public databases can access. Obama (Clinton too) signed executive orders to shield them, but only for the duration of their holding executive office. Hillery’s college thesis on Saul Alinsky was shielded until Bill was out of office, but was released once they left.
Birth certificates are demanded by school officials, little league couches, passport officials and pretty much anyone that asks, unless there is an executive order prohibiting that document. No court order needed.


27 posted on 12/09/2016 10:01:33 PM PST by Wingy
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To: cba123

“He is the president. He can look at anything he wants to look at.”

See: Richard Nixon


28 posted on 12/09/2016 10:07:00 PM PST by Timpanagos1
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To: Timpanagos1

Wasn’t that about the cover-up?

(long time ago, and I wasn’t paying close attention at the time because I was very young)

But it seems to me, the trouble was about the cover-up?


29 posted on 12/09/2016 10:08:35 PM PST by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Timpanagos1

Well as you state it depends on the records they are.

If presidential records he cannot hide.

Obama actually never had power to seal personal records. If you are talking about college records the colleges sealed them, not Obama. If you are talking about birth certificates, the law already keeps those confidential.

What personal records are you thinking of that obama has the power to seal?


30 posted on 12/09/2016 10:10:43 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ResisTyr

My guess is that the CIA and the FBI have files on Obama that probably shed light on many of the mysteries that continue to surround him.


31 posted on 12/09/2016 10:11:04 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: ResisTyr

What records did he seal?


32 posted on 12/09/2016 10:11:16 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: ResisTyr

I believe Obama did JUST THAT to GWBs sealed information.


33 posted on 12/09/2016 10:14:59 PM PST by JerseyDvl (PRESIDENT TRUMP trumps hate and racism! Put some ice on it Hitlery ;-)
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To: ResisTyr

Not my area of law, but unless sealed by a court or law, yes.

In the event of a court seal, then a DOJ action “in the compelling national interest” would succeed in most cases.

In the case of law (rather rare,) absent a harder to get court order, no.


34 posted on 12/09/2016 10:18:19 PM PST by Strac6 ("We sleep safe in our beds only because rough men stand ready to visit violence on the enemy.")
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To: ResisTyr

The only records I care to see are the ones that indicate whether he was admitted as a foreign student at Occidental...and his GPA at Occidental, Columbia and Harvard. He was promoted as tbe smartest person ever to be President. I want to see proof.

I would also like to know who paid his way into Harvard and what his LSAT scores were.


35 posted on 12/09/2016 10:20:29 PM PST by Cowboy Bob
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To: ResisTyr

By agreement and rule, even when out of office, presidents retain effective control over the records of their administration, subject though to various record disclosure requirements and schedules.


36 posted on 12/09/2016 10:23:34 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: ResisTyr
But he sealed them by executive order, did he not? How can Trump rescind all if Obama’s EOs, but not that one?

Obviously, Trump can cancel such an executive order.

But the real question is, what effect did Obama's executive order actually have? What could have been released prior to his order that could not have while his order remained in effect?

Also, some of Obama's personal records must have been outside the purview of the federal government, and thus Obama's executive order.

37 posted on 12/09/2016 10:24:04 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Bobalu

He looks nothing like FMD. And identical to two of his half brothers.

Plus FMD clearly sexually abused O.


38 posted on 12/09/2016 10:24:27 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Cowboy Bob

Yeah, i believe Indonesia paid for his undergrad, and that he went there as a foreign student. I think the whole country would like to see that our President actually checked the box marked NO several times when asked if he was a citizen of the United States.


39 posted on 12/09/2016 10:27:57 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: DIRTYSECRET
The REPUBLICAN Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, Permanently sealed his birth records.

His birth records were already sealed under Hawaiian law. As are those of anyone born in Hawaii. Thus, Lingle did not need to do anything special for little Barry Bastard. Of course, if she actually did, that would be interesting. But I haven't seen it.

40 posted on 12/09/2016 10:29:32 PM PST by cynwoody
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