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Jill Stein is just promoting herself with the recounts
Political Ref ^ | 11/26/16

Posted on 11/27/2016 2:02:32 PM PST by TheRef

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To: Robert DeLong

There is no chance that HIllary can win. See http://politicalref.com/permalink/16—11-24_michigan_certified.php and this http://politicalref.com/permalink/16—11-23_why_recounts_wont_bring_hillary_back.php


21 posted on 11/27/2016 2:52:24 PM PST by TheRef
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To: exDemMom

There are many angry Hillary supporters. By calling for these recounts, Stein becomes their hero. Simple.


22 posted on 11/27/2016 2:53:36 PM PST by TheRef
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To: TheRef

Let’s face it. . .most people don’t have a clue who she is.


23 posted on 11/27/2016 3:04:55 PM PST by Maudeen (No one on this earth is too far gone for Jesus.)
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To: ari-freedom
She will be forgotten very quickly as well. You are free to believe what you want, but I am not buying this scenario presented at all.

I do agree it will be wasted money if they hope to reverse the election, because that is not going to happen. In reality is is nothing more than kabuki theater.

She will have more name recognition, but not really anything that will amount to much.

If Soros is behind the money she has raised, which I believe is the case, then there is something more to this than just her building name recognition. Though that may be why she agreed to being the face & force behind the recount effort. But the real reason is something such as trying to throw the election into Congress & the Senate to pick the President & Vice President respectively. Or if they have people in these states who can provide the margin needed to make Hillary the victor, then that is another scenario.

One thing for sure is that if it is claimed that Hillary won all three states, there will be outbreaks of violence.

24 posted on 11/27/2016 3:05:35 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

a person who has 1% of the vote and no hope of winning overall, should not be allowed to apply for a recount.


25 posted on 11/27/2016 3:06:54 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Proudly deplorable since 2016)
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To: TheRef

The recount effort is also promoting the whole Green Party.
This is a great opportunity for the Green Party to grab the attention of dissatisfied Bernie Democrats.


26 posted on 11/27/2016 3:08:26 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: TheRef

Only for the moment. Come four years from now they will have moved on to whomever, and it won’t be Jill Stein.


27 posted on 11/27/2016 3:10:24 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: morphing libertarian
One thing I did not realize is that anyone with the money can call for a recount. Meaning a voter like you or I could actually call for recounts if we can foot the bill.

Contested Elections and Recounts 2 - The US Election Assistance - Look for that in this google search, it is a PDF (currently fourth on the list).

28 posted on 11/27/2016 3:19:30 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

So why don’t the court stop OB from taking office when people filed that he was ineligible.

Can we all ask for a recount (hard to believe) but not challenge to have eligible candidates?


29 posted on 11/27/2016 3:28:39 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Proudly deplorable since 2016)
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To: TheRef
I'd say the chance is slim to none, especially if the recount is done honestly, but Hillary and her money men do nothing honestly. So for that reason I refuse to concede that there is no chance that Hillary can win.

Even if she does win all 3 states, all that does is throw it to Congress & the Senate where she will still lose.

However, what that does accomplish is make her lemmings convinced that Trump is illegitimate and fight tooth and nail against everything Trump does as President. Keeps them on the plantation in other words for the mid-term elections and the 2020 Presidential election cycle.

Which BTW, will see Jill Stein garner the same percentage (or close to it) of the vote as she did in this election cycle.

30 posted on 11/27/2016 3:30:20 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Bulwinkle

Hillary is not dumb — she has known from the very beginning that Jill was using her as a front to promote her personal cause but HRC allows her name to be used as a vehicle to create chaos in the elective process. Hill and Jill are partners in this recount process.


31 posted on 11/27/2016 3:47:31 PM PST by 353FMG (AMERICA IS ALL THAT TRULY MATTERS)
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To: morphing libertarian
Because eligibility is different than asking for a recount.

For raising an eligibility ruling you have to have standing, and they do not see voters as having the standing to question eligibility. For that you have to actually have skin in the election. In other words you have to be running for the office as well. Only then do you have standing because the eligibility of another candidate would affect you personally.

Now you might say well it affects every citizen, but they see it that we lose nothing other than our preferred candidate will have to compete against them. Probably done to limit the number of eligibility suits the courts would have to contend with. In the case of Obama, we would probably have never had an election at all, as millions would have questioned his eligibility. 8>)

32 posted on 11/27/2016 3:47:44 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: TheRef
What A WakJob!!
Total Flake!!
33 posted on 11/27/2016 3:54:30 PM PST by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Robert DeLong

what is the “standing” of someone with 1% of the vote challenging the election. What is the statistical probability their 1% will change to the plurality. I would say .0000000001%

So she should have no standing. Only someone who has a chance to have the numbers change them into a winner from a loser should have such standing.

As far as eligibility. I have the right to vote and the right to an honest election. If a secretary of state or a court refuses to investigate the eligibility of a candidate then I should have standing to challenge the candidate on the basis I have the right to an honest election. I know from personal experience the secretary of state in CA was sent information regarding the allegation Obama was not a US citizen. provisos secretary of state in CA took Eldrige Cleaver off the ballot for not being eligible. I live in Cal, therefore, i should have standing to challenge and ineligible candidate on the CA ballot.


34 posted on 11/27/2016 3:57:44 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Proudly deplorable since 2016)
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To: morphing libertarian

Yet the USSC turned down more than 1 case because the petitioner did not have “standing.”


35 posted on 11/27/2016 3:59:30 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Proudly deplorable since 2016)
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To: TheRef

Yertle, is that you?


36 posted on 11/27/2016 4:11:03 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: morphing libertarian
Again recount does not require standing, it only requires money to pay for the recount effort.

As for the standing, you are arguing your case to the wrong person. I can pretty confidently guarantee though, no judge will rule in your favor. Let me know how it goes though, and I hope I am wrong and that you win for future elections. 8>)

37 posted on 11/27/2016 4:24:54 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: TheRef
Why....is it..that some people you just KNOW looking at them...they are left wing liberals?

It's obvious to me...when I look at them.

But why is that????

38 posted on 11/27/2016 4:28:15 PM PST by Osage Orange (Cover up after cover up...OUR GOVERNMENT is OUT OF CONTROL)
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To: TheRef

just went through her recent twitter feed, she has a few good points but some stupid ones too. She;s keeps saying Clinton and Trump want democracy...

what does Jill want usa to be?

She also says suggests doing away with electoral college, use popular vote.

So many people would be Sooooo unhappy if we had no EC and elections were constantly decided by city dwellers in local, state and national elections.


39 posted on 11/27/2016 4:40:02 PM PST by b4me (If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
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To: TheRef

Get in line all you climate change lemming retards and follow your Jim Jones of politics off the cliff.


40 posted on 11/28/2016 5:17:47 AM PST by BTCM (Death and destruction is the only treaty Muslims comprehend.)
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