Posted on 11/27/2016 8:01:45 AM PST by bobsunshine
If for some reason Stein/Clinton drag out the recount process beyond the Dec 19th Electoral College meeting and beyond, then the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes.
Here is what is important: Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President.
According to the 2016 House Election Results, 19 states (votes) are super majority Rep. and 5 states have major majority RP (FL,GA,IN,MI,PA). You need 26 votes to win. AZ,CO,IA,VA and WI are majority RP but could swing one or two Rep. votes to tie their vote.
Just some food for thought. Here is the link to the RCP election summary: RCP Election Results
Not going to happen
Sorry
In every case, after the choice of the President, the person having the greatest number of votes of the electors shall be the Vice President.”
The 12th amendment stipulated majority of appointed electors. If the recount states don’t have electors voting, they are not deemed appointed and it would be the majority minus the not appointed electors.
No.
I think it is well established that the College of Electors meets and the MAJORITY of their votes elects the president.
If ALL electors are eligible, the number of votes needed would be 270.
If some electors are not available (recount dragging on) then the majority of eligible electors (a number less than 270) will make the decision.
Trump cannot be stopped.
Article II of the Constitution is superseded by Amendment XII
Re read the Constitution. President is elected by a majority of “CERTIFIED electors”. Not “270 electors”. After all how many electors were there in 1810? I wager a dang sight fewer than 270. If the electors of WI, MI, and PA aren’t certified, they simply do not count at all and the majority winner of the rest of the electors becomes President. Without those three states it’s Trump 266 and Clinton 232. IE, he wins with the majority.
Correct, but if WI,MI and PA can not meet the deadline by Dec 19th due to the recount delays, then their votes don’t count. Thus under 270 and no majority. There is no rule that I could find that says the new threshold is not 270. The 270 is by law (rep + senators), so I don’t think the Majority of Electors present elect the president, it’s the person with over 270.
Now I did read that they could still get their votes in before Jan 6, but it would be up to Congress to accept them.
What I’m pointing out is that a number of people here think even if the vote went to the House, it would be a shoe-in. They forget that each state gets one vote. It is not voted by majority of Rep in the House.
It’s over. Trump won. Deal with it.
Actually, the 270 is established by LAW (12th Amendment). 270 = all states 50+Dc = 2 senators + Rep from each state. Do the math, 538 electoral votes. Majority = 270.
No again, if Trump only has 266 EV and Clinton has 232 EV, then it goes to the House per the 12th Amendment.
Where are you getting that a state us under any obligation to wait for the recount to finish? The state sets the deadline for the recount to be completed. It is up to the recounters to finish on time.
See Michigan laws on recounts and certification => http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3498812/posts?q=1&;page=133#133
...that a state IS under any obligation...
The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President..."
The key is "electors appointed". If electors from those three states are not appointed due to recounts, they do not count at all.
Here is the section on what if no nominee receives 270 votes from the US Gov. Hope this helps:
What happens if no presidential candidate gets 270 Electoral votes?
“If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House”.
The problem is that the magic number of “270” is not codified into law. How can it be when the number of states (hence EC votes) varies over time? It’s the majority of certified electors that count. Not an assumed aggregate. If the USA were to add another state (say PR) would we require a constitutional amendment to adjust the 270 to 272? OF COURSE NOT. Just relax. This is all so much libby whack offs.
The 270 is pretty much an arbitrary number.
The key really is the number of APPOINTED electors. Apparently, this year, some states may not be able to appoint any electors. That just disenfranchises those states. And it lowers the number of electors below 270.
But the majority of APPOINTED electors will decide in Trump’s favor.
Where are you getting that?
The states set the rules for their own recounts. Do you think the legislatures would write a recount law that jeopardizes their EVs? I've never seen such nonsense grip FR.
Correct so the most votes of the certified electors not exactly and only 270. So then HRC / Stein would need to find another 10 electors to tie either by threatening committed DT electors or, wreak havoc in yet another 10 elector state(s). THEN kick it to the House and begin threats and bribery there (that I can see). Imagine going thru all that being ‘declared’ winner and is he country sheepishly accepts. Bullets fly
According to the 2016 House Election Results,
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And when would all this occur? The 2016 Nov election winners don’t take office
until 2017. So is it the outgoing House that does the voting, one per state?
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